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God drat the new Styles P tapes are a true return to form. The whole of Dime Bag is bangers riding on a real Ghost and the Machine vibe. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVmZX5Y6-mw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwQYO3PlddU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhLWSBJdXbc
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monkeu posted:Thug is free I hope this means some new poo poo will drop soon.
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Robokomodo posted:What’s SA’s consensus on Ghostemane? He's alright but most of this thread doesn't listen/like many SoundCloud-era rappers.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w66Qcu2ZdAE this song is fun, and easily the first acknowledgement in Nigerian media i've seen that suggest gay people may exist one dancer is fabulous
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Creed 2 soundtrack is out and the features look insane: https://itunes.apple.com/au/album/creed-ii-the-album/1441989125 Also a ten minute grinch soundtrack Christmas music thing by Tyler: https://itunes.apple.com/au/album/music-inspired-by-illumination-dr-seuss-the-grinch-ep/1441586573
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monkeu posted:Creed 2 soundtrack is out and the features look insane: There’s a Creed 2 coming? I can’t believe I only found out via the rap thread.
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This seems like the place to ask. Apologies if this topic belongs elsewhere. Keep in mind, as much as the whole genre fascinates me, I'm a white guy from Australia who doesn't know poo poo about rap. Why were/are the Beastie Boys considered good and held up on such a pedestal? Their rhymes seem totally juvenile, formulaic and basic. They seem to have more in common with a comedy troupe taking the piss out of hip hop like Lonely Island except they aren't funny and appear to be taken seriously in music circles. I'm sure I'm missing the nuance and my extreme generalisation is probably a disservice. Or maybe it's accurate and that's the point of what they were trying to do. It just appears that there is a disconnect between how they are talked about and what I actually hear when I listen to them.
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GET MORE ACTION THAN MY MAN JOHN WOO
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Looten Plunder posted:I'm a white guy from Australia who doesn't know poo poo about rap. a lot of that going around itt
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Looten Plunder posted:This seems like the place to ask. Apologies if this topic belongs elsewhere. Keep in mind, as much as the whole genre fascinates me, I'm a white guy from Australia who doesn't know poo poo about rap. Have you actually listened to a full album by them? Paul's Boutique is a groundbreaking album production wise. Check Your Head is extremely experimental (a lot of their stuff was, really, though many experiments didn't work). They often played their own instruments and mixed several genres into a hip-hop sound. Their energy and chemistry is unparalleled even if their lyricism was often subpar. I actually prefer the juvenile punchline stuff to some of their more ambitious material but they are not to be dismissed on the basis of their comedic hits.
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Looten Plunder posted:This seems like the place to ask. Apologies if this topic belongs elsewhere. Keep in mind, as much as the whole genre fascinates me, I'm a white guy from Australia who doesn't know poo poo about rap. man what is wrong with you guys up in Australia goddamn. first monkeu now this
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Henchman of Santa posted:Have you actually listened to a full album by them? I owned a couple of albums but never sat down and gave gave them great attention. Thanks for the informative response.
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Looten Plunder posted:It just appears that there is a disconnect between how they are talked about and what I actually hear when I listen to them.
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Looten Plunder posted:I owned a couple of albums but never sat down and gave gave them great attention. No problem. You're hardly the first to pass judgment on them too early. They'll always be three obnoxious Jewish guys shouting to a lot of people.
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temple posted:beastie boys were hipster white dudes in ny before it was a thing. hiphop gentrification 
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Most poo poo coming out of the 80s had stilted, simple deliveries. Hiphop was young and still finding its place. Look up Kurtis Blow / Grandmaster Flash and it may make more sense. It wasn't until the 90s before MCs began to steadily push the envelope of what was considered high tier lyricism. Kool G Rap paved the way for a lot of the guys considered GOATs today. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6VmV3D-7D4' Edit: Forgot to add, Beastie Boys' production was always on point. tjones fucked around with this message at 03:51 on Nov 16, 2018 |
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Myka fathered everyone. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=runopu_8IHE
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Not rap, but Beastie Boys The Mix Up just shows how talented of a group they were. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TS509YRmbT0
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tjones posted:Most poo poo coming out of the 80s had stilted, simple deliveries. Hiphop was young and still finding its place. Look up Kurtis Blow / Grandmaster Flash and it may make more sense. You are definitely right about Kool G Rap being really influential. But I would say that the simple delivery was more the early 80's because by the late 80's you had some pretty talented and influential lyricists like Rakim, Eric Sermon and Parrish Smith from EPMD, Big Daddy Kane, and Chuck D. And I know I am missing a bunch of others.
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MrSargent posted:You are definitely right about Kool G Rap being really influential. But I would say that the simple delivery was more the early 80's because by the late 80's you had some pretty talented and influential lyricists like Rakim, Eric Sermon and Parrish Smith from EPMD, Big Daddy Kane, and Chuck D. And I know I am missing a bunch of others. My post was a no doubt a huge generalization as it would take too much time to cover all the bases. I passed over a lot of artists that I would have gone into depth about if I had cared to actually type a ton of poo poo. In hindsight Slick Rick is probably my most favorite artist, who coming out of the 80s, was well ahead of his time as far as lyrics go. I'd still say the following around that time were fairly simple structured in regards to lyrical content (to me these artists were more about the message than how that message was being delivered, although extremely talented and pushing hiphop forward, all the same): Kane's Ain't No Half Steppin Eric B & Rakim's I Ain't No Joke (a personal favorite) or Paid In Full (I'll give Rakim credit where due, he killed the late 90s) Public Enemy's Fight the Power EPMD's You Gots To Chill ATCQ's Kick It or Bonita Applebum I chose to single out Kool because, IMO, he pushed the game further away from the status quo of prior lyrical style and continued to influence everyone after him for a long rear end time. Thats not to detract from all the great lyricists that came up in the early to mid 90s because the list could go forever and it was a extremely pivotal and amazing time for hiphop. I guess what I'm trying to say is that, at least for me, it was Kool that was the starkest in comparison to the people who came before him. Apologies for that long rear end derail. tjones fucked around with this message at 05:46 on Nov 16, 2018 |
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Looten Plunder posted:This seems like the place to ask. Apologies if this topic belongs elsewhere. Keep in mind, as much as the whole genre fascinates me, I'm a white guy from Australia who doesn't know poo poo about rap. As some people have mentioned, a lot of early rappers sound extremely basic compared to dudes who came after (although that trend is largely reversing with some of the folks out now but htat's a whole different thing). There is some element to the praise they get of them being white and mixing in non-rap elementsbut a lot of their production, and especially sampling, was truly revolutionary and they did try a lot of different things in rap for better or worse. Also a lt of their more comedy stuff was intentionally ironic/dumb- like fight for the right to party was actually making fun of jocks/college party scene/etc. But with a lot o things like that the humor gets washed out and it gets unironically appreciated by the people being lampooned. That said, outside of Paul's Boutique I never got really into much of their stuff because they weren't exactly great rappers in terms of what we'd think of as technical skill or w/e but they had some cool songs.
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tjones posted:My post was a no doubt a huge generalization as it would take too much time to cover all the bases. I passed over a lot of artists that I would have gone into depth about if I had cared to actually type a ton of poo poo. I thin Rakim had more to do with pushing the boundaries of rap. IMO a lot of the respect Kool G Rap gets is because most of the early 90's NY cats dug the dude heavy and he influenced them. Like I don't think it was his skill so much as his subject matter combined with a more modern take on rapping that was influential. Like you can trace Rakim's influence a lot of paces but Kool G was def a NY dude, and that's where his impact was really felt. Honestly I find a bunch of 80's rap basically unlistenable because it's so basic sounding and still kinda stuck in the call/response temp. Even a lot of the later 80's stuff still has a more basic style of rap, but other things make it memorable. But it's really splitting hairs either way.
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1988-1992 rap was danceable. Everything mostly up until No Way Out was undanceable. Sean Combs saved rap. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boeRn-Jt8Yc
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alansmithee posted:I thin Rakim had more to do with pushing the boundaries of rap. Yeah, fair enough. I can see that argument.
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I understand Rakim's influence but I have never ever been able to get into his music. Eric B.'s production is so dated. Kool G Rap and EPMD are definitely underrated when people talk about that era today. Honestly it took most of the rap world like 5 years to catch up to The Message.
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Rakim produced a lot of his music (and other people's music). Eric B was "protection".
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Also speaking of old school poo poo did we discuss Enter the Wu-Tang and Midnight Marauders turning 25 last week? I could've sworn I was reading 20th anniversary pieces a year ago.
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Marching Powder posted:currently listening to the new anderson paak. it's incredible. This Creed II soundtrack tho  Thing has loving everyone on it. Lil Wayne, Crime Mob, Schoolboy Q, 2 Chainz, Nas, Rick Ross, Young Thug, Pharrell, Kendrick, Rae Sremmurd, Kodak Black, Gucci Mane, A$AP Rocky, Nicki Minaj, Vince Staples, etc. Whole thing's produced by Mike WiLL, too. I'm only a few tracks in so I'm not sure if it's all quality, but it's pretty solid so far. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFRpyseI5zI e: Okay, it's definitely not all quality lol. Just the amount of artists on the tracklist is impressive. This isn't as good as, say, the Black Panther soundtrack (which is still one of my AOTYs) despite having several of the same artists on it. Some of these tracks go hard though: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kP9Pxmj5GFE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RkL3O2BO-8 Rageaholic fucked around with this message at 08:52 on Nov 16, 2018 |
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I’m sad Oxnard doesn’t have Til It’s Over and Bubblin’ on it those songs are way better than Tints and Who R U? I’ll give it a listen anyways.
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Not feeling Oxnard much. Don't think his voice really suits this production
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free max bigevell https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXQLnrZX9oU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RTLC_ksvwk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlBANShELSU
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How is Freddie Gibbs live? He's playing Chicago next month.
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Henchman of Santa posted:How is Freddie Gibbs live? He's playing Chicago next month. Excellent from everything I've heard
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