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yeah actually they will
Aug 18, 2012
Howdy ADTRW, long time lurker, first time poster. A lot of my anime watching friends recommended Cowboy Bebop as a good "beginners" anime, so I thought "what the hell" and powered through the whole thing in a weekend. I was pleasantly surprised! It was a fun, pulpy sci-fi romp with a great atmosphere throughout. But there were a few big problems I had with the show, which I'm hoping you guys can help clear up - you guys know A LOT about anime.

  • What happened to Faye Valentibe? They set up this great character with an intriguing backstory and not only do they not resolve her character arc, she doesn't even appear in the last five or so episodes! Instead we get the infinitely less interesting "Faye Valentine" without even an explanation. That's just really shoddy storytelling.
  • In the episode with the cult controlled by the face in the tv, why did it suddenly jump cut to some black kid in a hospital bed? Was that like a conceptual thing, like, religion saps us of our individual humanity? If that IS what they were going for I didn't get it at all, it just seemed like a non-sequitor. "Too deep for me" I guess.
  • Not sure if this is a problem with the show itself or just the dub, but did Spike ever manage to shoot all those guys at the end? I don't even know why the edited out the gun. 4kids up to no good again, I guess. I'll stick to subs next time.

Like I said, any light you can shed on these issues would be most appreciated. I really did like this show. Cheers!

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Rich Uncle Chet
Jan 20, 2005


The Law? Law is a Human Institution.


The Rear Fork Bruise is one of my favorite animes songs. You picked a cool anime for cool dudes.

Spike was able to shoot all those guys because he had mind bullets

LaTex Fetish
Oct 11, 2010

Your first mistake, OP, was thinking that Cowboy Bebop is a beginners anime. A lot of 'newbies' do watch Cowboy Bebop, but it is a very deep anime with a lot of rich symbolism.

To get more enjoyment out of anime, I recommend iDOLM@STER. It has a lot of lovable characters and it is very easy to get into.

CasinoV
Aug 13, 2009

no they will not posted:


Not sure if this is a problem with the show itself or just the dub, but did Spike ever manage to shoot all those guys at the end? I don't even know why the edited out the gun. 4kids up to no good again, I guess. I'll stick to subs next time.


Are you talking about the very end of the whole series where spike puts up his finger and say bang? There was no editing there, I think you missed what was actually going on. :ohdear:

LaTex Fetish
Oct 11, 2010

CasinoV posted:

Are you talking about the very end of the whole series where spike puts up his finger and say bang? There was no editing there, I think you missed what was actually going on. :ohdear:

Since the series relies on a lot of subtleties, yeah, the OP might have missed what was going on. When Spike points his finger up there is a sudden realization that he has the power to overcome any obstacle. But it comes at a price. He realizes this in a previous episode where Andy von de Oniyate points at him and says, "See you, space Cowboy." That epithet is also seen at the end of many episodes in the bottom right corner.

The price of Spike's power is that he will always re-live the same fate, something that Andy von de Oniyate knew. Spike wanted to break the chain and thus end this loop.

Hope that clears everything up.

Mordaedil
Oct 25, 2007

Oh wow, cool. Good job.
So?
Grimey Drawer
I've seen it like three times and I still don't get any of it. Or any of what you just said.

Mo_Steel
Mar 7, 2008

Let's Clock Into The Sunset Together

Fun Shoe
I always thought the egg eating episode was the strangest one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uc4A0vXxHUM

:smith:

darealkooky
Sep 15, 2011

You sayin' I like dubs?!?

no they will not posted:

  • What happened to Faye Valentibe? They set up this great character with an intriguing backstory and not only do they not resolve her character arc, she doesn't even appear in the last five or so episodes! Instead we get the infinitely less interesting "Faye Valentine" without even an explanation. That's just really shoddy storytelling.
  • In the episode with the cult controlled by the face in the tv, why did it suddenly jump cut to some black kid in a hospital bed? Was that like a conceptual thing, like, religion saps us of our individual humanity? If that IS what they were going for I didn't get it at all, it just seemed like a non-sequitor. "Too deep for me" I guess.
  • Not sure if this is a problem with the show itself or just the dub, but did Spike ever manage to shoot all those guys at the end? I don't even know why the edited out the gun. 4kids up to no good again, I guess. I'll stick to subs next time.

  • Nukes are bad
  • Christianity is bad
  • The barbarian hordes will never defeat the Yamato spirit

hope this helps OP

FiftySeven
Jan 1, 2006


I WON THE BETTING POOL ON TESSAS THIRD STUPID VOTE AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS HALF-ASSED TITLE



Slippery Tilde

no they will not posted:

Howdy ADTRW, long time lurker, first time poster. A lot of my anime watching friends recommended Cowboy Bebop as a good "beginners" anime, so I thought "what the hell" and powered through the whole thing in a weekend. I was pleasantly surprised! It was a fun, pulpy sci-fi romp with a great atmosphere throughout. But there were a few big problems I had with the show, which I'm hoping you guys can help clear up - you guys know A LOT about anime.

  • What happened to Faye Valentibe? They set up this great character with an intriguing backstory and not only do they not resolve her character arc, she doesn't even appear in the last five or so episodes! Instead we get the infinitely less interesting "Faye Valentine" without even an explanation. That's just really shoddy storytelling.
  • In the episode with the cult controlled by the face in the tv, why did it suddenly jump cut to some black kid in a hospital bed? Was that like a conceptual thing, like, religion saps us of our individual humanity? If that IS what they were going for I didn't get it at all, it just seemed like a non-sequitor. "Too deep for me" I guess.
  • Not sure if this is a problem with the show itself or just the dub, but did Spike ever manage to shoot all those guys at the end? I don't even know why the edited out the gun. 4kids up to no good again, I guess. I'll stick to subs next time.

Like I said, any light you can shed on these issues would be most appreciated. I really did like this show. Cheers!

I don't think you GET Anime. I suggest you go watch bible black and buy an anime avatar. When you have done that, perhaps you will understand why the rest of ADTRW has the nippon anime spirit and you have not currently got any yamato credibility. I would also punch your nakama for recommending Cowboy bebop, as it is something of a pro watch and will confuse the casual viewer 9/10 times.

Zorak
Nov 7, 2005
You gotta read the manga, god you loving scrub

Dick Spacious CPA
Oct 10, 2012

Zorak posted:

You gotta read the manga, god you loving scrub

that is very rude. he just came to ADTRW to talk about a show he liked and here you go calling him a scrub and cursing at him. we may not all be scholars of glorious japanese animation like yourself but please show a little restraint.

i am sorry forum poster no they will not. i apologize on behalf of my good friend Zorak for him being mean to you he is just very passionate about anime. i hope you will continue to post in the anime forums and enjoy your time here.

Uhhlive
Jun 18, 2004

I'm not the public.
I'm the President
Welcome to ADTRW, no you will not-chan, please enjoy posting!

paragon1
Nov 22, 2010

FULL COMMUNISM NOW
You should watch Highschool DxD if you want to understand anime and life in general OP. You can trust us in this, we are your ~senpais~.

yeah actually they will
Aug 18, 2012

darealkooky posted:

  • Nukes are bad
  • Christianity is bad
  • The barbarian hordes will never defeat the Yamato spirit

hope this helps OP

You're not really answering my questions. Have you even seen Cowboy Bebop? It's okay if you haven't [I'm not a "snob" or anything] but it's messed up to pretend you have if you haven't.

FiftySeven
Jan 1, 2006


I WON THE BETTING POOL ON TESSAS THIRD STUPID VOTE AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS HALF-ASSED TITLE



Slippery Tilde

no they will not posted:

You're not really answering my questions. Have you even seen Cowboy Bebop? It's okay if you haven't [I'm not a "snob" or anything] but it's messed up to pretend you have if you haven't.

I think he answered them in the most appropriate manner when you consider the main themes of the show. If you have watched it, then you SHOULD know that. Have you even watched this show? I cant help but feel that you haven't and are just trying to stir up trouble.

Cowboy Bebop is something of a sacred cow in the Animé community and for you to badmouth it is essentially to undermine everything that ADTRW stands for as the premier transethnic Animé fanbase on the internet. If you are here to troll, then please reconsider before we all go bushido on your baka oshiri!

aers
Feb 15, 2012

I can't help you because I haven't watched the show but I think it has a good OP (opening) song.

KoB
May 1, 2009

Zorak posted:

You gotta read the manga, god you loving scrub

You need to read all the extended universe light novels to really understand whats going on.

Furious Lobster
Jun 17, 2006

Soiled Meat

KoB posted:

You need to read all the extended universe light novels to really understand whats going on.

And listen to all the drama CDs as well.

HitTheTargets
Mar 3, 2006

I came here to laugh at you.
My favorite part was when Bebop shot a bunch of guys in a church. It was super symbolic.

Feed Me A Cat
Jun 18, 2012

no they will not posted:

You're not really answering my questions. Have you even seen Cowboy Bebop? It's okay if you haven't [I'm not a "snob" or anything] but it's messed up to pretend you have if you haven't.

:allears:

Serious reply: there was no editing at the end, he pointed his finger at dudes and said bang.

Matoi Ryuko
Jan 6, 2004


no they will not posted:

Howdy ADTRW, long time lurker, first time poster. A lot of my anime watching friends recommended Cowboy Bebop as a good "beginners" anime, so I thought "what the hell" and powered through the whole thing in a weekend. I was pleasantly surprised! It was a fun, pulpy sci-fi romp with a great atmosphere throughout. But there were a few big problems I had with the show, which I'm hoping you guys can help clear up - you guys know A LOT about anime.

  • What happened to Faye Valentibe? They set up this great character with an intriguing backstory and not only do they not resolve her character arc, she doesn't even appear in the last five or so episodes! Instead we get the infinitely less interesting "Faye Valentine" without even an explanation. That's just really shoddy storytelling.
  • In the episode with the cult controlled by the face in the tv, why did it suddenly jump cut to some black kid in a hospital bed? Was that like a conceptual thing, like, religion saps us of our individual humanity? If that IS what they were going for I didn't get it at all, it just seemed like a non-sequitor. "Too deep for me" I guess.
  • Not sure if this is a problem with the show itself or just the dub, but did Spike ever manage to shoot all those guys at the end? I don't even know why the edited out the gun. 4kids up to no good again, I guess. I'll stick to subs next time.

Like I said, any light you can shed on these issues would be most appreciated. I really did like this show. Cheers!

Faye got dumped by spike, he was all like "Sorry I gotta go die, bye." I thought that kid in the bed wanted everyone to be disabled like he was?? No Spike didn't shoot those guys, he died when he fell down, I guess.

yeah actually they will
Aug 18, 2012

Matoi Ryuko posted:

Faye got dumped by spike, he was all like "Sorry I gotta go die, bye." I thought that kid in the bed wanted everyone to be disabled like he was?? No Spike didn't shoot those guys, he died when he fell down, I guess.

That's not really a reason why they had to replace Faye Valentibe with this other character [Faye Valentine]. And no one on the show even mentions it! She didn't even get a sendoff! I just think it's kind of disrespectful to the character.

Stairmaster
Jun 8, 2012

Feed Me A Cat posted:

:allears:

Serious reply: there was no editing at the end, he pointed his finger at dudes and said bang.

i'm gay

Postal Parcel
Aug 2, 2013

no they will not posted:

That's not really a reason why they had to replace Faye Valentibe with this other character [Faye Valentine]. And no one on the show even mentions it! She didn't even get a sendoff! I just think it's kind of disrespectful to the character.


You didn't mention Cowboy Bebop, the titular character, once in your little spiel. I don't think you actually saw this show. Go back to Yogi Bear poser!

Matoi Ryuko
Jan 6, 2004


no they will not posted:

That's not really a reason why they had to replace Faye Valentibe with this other character [Faye Valentine]. And no one on the show even mentions it! She didn't even get a sendoff! I just think it's kind of disrespectful to the character.

Sometimes the musical score can aid you in the exploration of the underlying philosophical motifs.

Matoi Ryuko
Jan 6, 2004


Are we allowed to use anime signatures in ADTRW, the anime forum?

aers
Feb 15, 2012

Yes.

Budget Prefuse
Sep 26, 2011

Matoi Ryuko posted:

Are we allowed to use anime signatures in ADTRW, the anime forum?
of course. anime is encouraged in the anime forum

Matoi Ryuko
Jan 6, 2004


Prefuse posted:

of course. anime is encouraged in the anime forum

Excellent! Are we also allowed to post threads about Kill la Kill, a recent anime, in the anime forum?

HitTheTargets
Mar 3, 2006

I came here to laugh at you.
I just checked the schedules for Cartoon Network AND Syfy, but I didn't see any mention of that. Are you sure it's not French animation?

Rich Uncle Chet
Jan 20, 2005


The Law? Law is a Human Institution.


Could this thread recommend me a good anime that grandpas might enjoy?

klapman
Aug 27, 2012

this char is good
dude i think you watched evangelion, not cowboy bebop

Stairmaster
Jun 8, 2012

Prefuse posted:

of course. anime is encouraged in the anime forum

who wants to talk about senran kagura

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ass
Sep 22, 2011
Young Orc

Matoi Ryuko posted:

Excellent! Are we also allowed to post threads about Kill la Kill, a recent anime, in the anime forum?

No, sorry. It promotes misogyny.

Big Anime Fan Here
Sep 8, 2010

by XyloJW
Great post OP. Let me just fill you in on a few finer points of the series that people miss.

-The people from the show aren't Japanese because they are from Space and not earth. When I realized this, it blew my mind.
-People are still sad, even though it is set in the future. I emailed a drug company my idea for a pill that made everyone happy for the future so they will probably make that by the time there are spaceships. That is why it's called a "Science Fiction" series because in Sceince Fact they would use my new pill.
-Faye Valentine is my wife
-I love you Faye Valentine
-One time I brought a girl to my house and she made me turn my Faye Valentine poster where she is sexy and wet and bending over with her titties showing very deep cleavage and looking at me w/ eyes that say "I love you" around to face the wall bc she got mad that I kept looking at it

Matoi Ryuko
Jan 6, 2004


gently caress trophy 2k14 posted:

who wants to talk about senran kagura

Just how big is the ecchi game market in Japan, anyway?

Postal Parcel
Aug 2, 2013

Matoi Ryuko posted:

Just how big is the ecchi game market in Japan, anyway?

Pulls in one-billion US dollars gross every year

ass
Sep 22, 2011
Young Orc

Postal Parcel posted:

Pulls in one-billion US dollars gross every year

I'm in luck, then. I'll start drawing anime porn and will offer it to goons as a main demographic, this is my plan to make big bucks.

paragon1
Nov 22, 2010

FULL COMMUNISM NOW

It's 2014 no one cares.

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Big Anime Fan Here
Sep 8, 2010

by XyloJW
I'll give you 1 dollar for every time I pleasure myself to your drawing (to completion) on the honor system

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