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BOAT SHOWBOAT
Oct 11, 2007

who do you carry the torch for, my young man?


Continuing his recent streak of adapting bestsellers, David Fincher is back with psychological mystery Gone Girl to be released on October 3, 2014. The novel of the same name was written by Gillian Flynn, a former Entertainment Weekly writer whose other two books, Sharp Objects and Dark Places, are also in the process of being adapted (into a miniseries and a film starring Charlize Theron, respectively).

The novel its based on centres around a writer couple, Nick and Amy Dunne, who have moved from New York to Missouri after losing their jobs in the GFC. Amy goes missing, and in the course of her search, it is revealed that both Nick and Amy are deeply flawed people who are not what they seem. It's not altogether new territory, and the writing is a little too "airport fictiony" (imo) at times, but it does build a palpable sense of dread and touch on some valuable insights on long term relationships.

Trent Reznor and Atticus Ross have returned to do the score so expect more dark and moody atmospheric tunes. Jeff Cronenweth, Fincher's usual DP is also back on board.

Who is in this thing?

Cast

Ben Affleck as Nick Dunn, who the public turns on after he fails to presenting a convincing image of a grieving husband after his wife goes missing.


Rosamund Pike as Amy Dunn, the titular "Gone Girl" who was also the inspiration for her parents' successful "Amazing Amy" children's novels.


Neil Patrick Harris as Desi Collings, a dandy former ex-boyfriend of Amy's who has remained obsessed with her over the years.


Tyler Perry as Tanner Bolt, a high-profile attorney who specialises in defending husbands accused of murdering their wives.

Carrie Coon plays Nick's sister, Kim Dickens and Patrick Fugit play the cops working the case, Lisa Banes and David Clennon play Amy's parents.

I think this movie has been quite well-cast to the book. Nick is meant to be somewhat handsome and charming while also seeming like an insincere, punchable douchebag (Affleck has been method-acting this for years), and Rosamund Pike and Neil Patrick Harris are also perfect for their characters. Tyler Perry is probably going to raise some eyebrows but it looks like he's going to do a good job!

Trailers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esGn-xKFZdU Fincher is already known for great teasers set to music, and this continues that streak.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ym3LB0lOJ0o More plot-heavy second trailer that shows off the cast.

The ending has apparently been changed from the novel so even book-readers are going in cold on some things. I quite liked the original ending, but can see why it would be altered for a film's pacing.

BOAT SHOWBOAT fucked around with this message at 14:14 on Jul 28, 2014

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User-Friendly
Apr 27, 2008

Is There a God? (Pt. 9)
Aw yeah, I'm excited for this. Just read the book in a little under 24 hours and loved it.

roboshit
Apr 4, 2009

That first trailer is garbage and almost turned me off the movie despite David Fincher and Trent Reznor but the second trailer was really good and I'm looking forward to it now.

Alfred P. Pseudonym
May 29, 2006

And when you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss goes 8-8

Fincher, therefore I will watch.

iSheep
Feb 5, 2006

by R. Guyovich

Alfred P. Pseudonym posted:

Fincher, therefore I will watch.

What he said.

AlliedBiscuit
Oct 23, 2012

Do you want to know the terrifying truth, or do you want to see me sock a few dingers?!!
I'm excited because they shot so much of it on location in Cape Girardeau. Never in my life would I have thought a major motion picture from a director I really enjoy would end up being shot in my old stomping grounds.

My friend who did some liaison work there had all kinds of stories from production. Including Albert Pujols showing up one day to play golf with Ben Affleck.

spotix55
Jun 6, 2014

Man This poster gives me the chills

I want to buy it and hang it on my wall
and i'm not talking about amazing amy either :barf:

Truther Vandross
Jun 17, 2008

I have high hopes for this because the book was really good, Flynn did the adaptation with the help of Fincher and this seems right in Ben Affleck's wheelhouse. The only part that worries me is Ratajkowski

Adrianics
Aug 15, 2006

Affirmative. Yes. Yo. Right on. My man.
I read the book on a recent vacation. I thought it was really great until (pretty huge spoiler)it was revealed that Amy faked her death and is framing her husband as revenge for his infidelity, at which point it became utterly ridiculous in the worst possible way, and I'm struggling to see how the second half of the book will work as a movie. I know that they're not following the book to the letter, and I have faith in Fincher and his team, so I'm interested in seeing this to see what improvements they make.

Magic Hate Ball
May 6, 2007

ha ha ha!
you've already paid for this
That "She" trailer is really incredibly killer, Fincher's turning out the most consistently interesting trailers since Kubrick.


...they paved paradise, and put up a parking lot! oooh fa fa fa fa oooooh fa fa fa fa

BOAT SHOWBOAT
Oct 11, 2007

who do you carry the torch for, my young man?
Honestly I love the end of the book, although I'm kind of hoping the movie plays some elements of it for very dark comedy instead of completely straight. The fact that it takes so little for Amy to decide to return, and these two hosed up, deeply broken people just decide to stay with each other and hope for the best is more interesting and darkly funny to me than if either of them killed the other or went to jail.

BOAT SHOWBOAT
Oct 11, 2007

who do you carry the torch for, my young man?
http://nin.com/

A preview of Reznor and Ross's soundtrack is up on the website, and its appropriately chilling and odd.

weekly font
Dec 1, 2004


Everytime I try to fly I fall
Without my wings
I feel so small
Guess I need you baby...



I thought it was confirmed by Fincher they're changing the ending.

Sock The Great
Oct 1, 2006

It's Lonely At The Top. But It's Comforting To Look Down Upon Everyone At The Bottom
Grimey Drawer

weekly font posted:

I thought it was confirmed by Fincher they're changing the ending.

I thought it was the entire third act, not just the ending?

DrVenkman
Dec 28, 2005

I think he can hear you, Ray.

weekly font posted:

I thought it was confirmed by Fincher they're changing the ending.

It's gone back and forth a lot on what's actually been changed. Affleck remarked to Flynn when he read the script "You've changed the whole ending" but it could likely be that he means the tone of it has changed rather than the nuts and bolts of what happens. I think Fincher has said they basically tweaked the end and it's still faithful to the book. Flynn herself downplayed the changes made recently and said it wasn't anything major.

mikul
Feb 8, 2004
You can now listen to four tracks from the soundtrack, as well as pre order it, at http://store.nin.com. Loving what I've heard so far.

Magic Hate Ball
May 6, 2007

ha ha ha!
you've already paid for this
Wow, those sound absolutely fabulous, I really can't wait for this.

Madkal
Feb 11, 2008

I believe in all the ways that they say you can lose your body
Fallen Rib
I finished reading this book a few weeks back just because I like to read books of movies I want to see and see how the rack up on comparison.
Got to say that the casting of Neil Patrick Harris as Dessi is excellent, though I kept picturing David Hyde Pierce when I read the Dessi bits.

Cacator
Aug 6, 2005

You're quite good at turning me on.

mikul posted:

You can now listen to four tracks from the soundtrack, as well as pre order it, at http://store.nin.com. Loving what I've heard so far.

Not quite as menacing as TGWTGT but these soundtracks always grow on me. I love the last two preview tracks.

Cacator fucked around with this message at 02:13 on Sep 24, 2014

Madkal
Feb 11, 2008

I believe in all the ways that they say you can lose your body
Fallen Rib
Looks like the whole album is streaming here on NPR.

BOAT SHOWBOAT
Oct 11, 2007

who do you carry the torch for, my young man?
Early reviews are quite good (sitting on 85% on RT with 26 reviews).

stev
Jan 22, 2013

Please be excited.



Been checking iTunes every day for the soundtrack release. Come oooooooooon!

So excited for this. I was definitely in the 'what the gently caress is Fincher doing?' boat when it was announced, but after reading the book it's so drat perfect for him.

Necrothatcher
Mar 26, 2005




That was simultaneously outstanding cinema and hugely misogynistic.

Feels like it's custom made to tickle MRAs.

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

Mr. Flunchy posted:

That was simultaneously outstanding cinema and hugely misogynistic.

Feels like it's custom made to tickle MRAs.

Have you read the book? I'm curious if it changes much. I'm guessing/hoping "no."

Necrothatcher
Mar 26, 2005




Uncle Boogeyman posted:

Have you read the book? I'm curious if it changes much. I'm guessing/hoping "no."

I knew nothing about the story beforehand. Honestly, I've just lost a ton of respect for Fincher as a person, he's a hell of a director but goddamn dude have some social responsibility.

I wish I could come up with a sympathetic reading, but I can't. Also, I don't throw around words like misogynist lightly.

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

Mr. Flunchy posted:

I knew nothing about the story beforehand. Honestly, I've just lost a ton of respect for Fincher as a person, he's a hell of a director but goddamn man.

I wish I could come up with a sympathetic reading, but I can't. Also, I don't throw around words like misogynist lightly.

Dang, I'm curious now. How much blame would you lay at the feet of Gillian Flynn? Or is it specifically the directorial choices you take issue with?

stev
Jan 22, 2013

Please be excited.



Woooah now I'm curious. I mean the book was sort of meant to be subverting both sides of the spectrum and winds up being pretty balanced.

Necrothatcher
Mar 26, 2005




Uncle Boogeyman posted:

Dang, I'm curious now. How much blame would you lay at the feet of Gillian Flynn? Or is it specifically the directorial choices you take issue with?

I don't know the events of the book and I don't particularly want to spoil the film but (generalised spoilers) the film is about using femininity as a snare to entrap well meaning nice guys. So there's several false rape allegations, pregnancy as a weapon to control men and a justification for wife beating.

Like I said, catnip for MRAs.

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

Mr. Flunchy posted:

I don't know the events of the book and I don't particularly want to spoil the film but (generalised spoilers) the film is about using femininity as a snare to entrap well meaning nice guys. So there's several false rape allegations, pregnancy as a weapon to control men and a justification for wife beating.

Like I said, catnip for MRAs.

Yep, that was all in the book pretty much (well, I didn't read anything as being offered as a justification for wife beating, but I suppose you could read that into it). I'm just curious why you blame Fincher rather than the person who wrote the book and screenplay.

stev
Jan 22, 2013

Please be excited.



Mr. Flunchy posted:

I don't know the events of the book and I don't particularly want to spoil the film but (generalised spoilers) the film is about using femininity as a snare to entrap well meaning nice guys. So there's several false rape allegations, pregnancy as a weapon to control men and a justification for wife beating.

Like I said, catnip for MRAs.

Oh that's straight from the book. Not going to go into it but here's a quote of the author responding to similar comments.

quote:

"To me, that puts a very, very small window on what feminism is," she responds. "Is it really only girl power, and you-go-girl, and empower yourself, and be the best you can be? For me, it's also the ability to have women who are bad characters … the one thing that really frustrates me is this idea that women are innately good, innately nurturing. In literature, they can be dismissably bad – trampy, vampy, bitchy types – but there's still a big pushback against the idea that women can be just pragmatically evil, bad and selfish ... I don't write psycho bitches. The psycho bitch is just crazy – she has no motive, and so she's a dismissible person because of her psycho-bitchiness."

Personally, I'd say the story deals with two horrible people (horrible in different ways) who got married and spent years slowly destroying each other by any means necessary. I could definitely see how an MRA could use it for their own ends, but they'd be ignoring a lot of the context. And I don't think Flynn should have changed the story to avoid their idiocy, and the same goes for Fincher.

Necrothatcher
Mar 26, 2005




Uncle Boogeyman posted:

Yep, that was all in the book pretty much (well, I didn't read anything as being offered as a justification for wife beating, but I suppose you could read that into it). I'm just curious why you blame Fincher rather than the person who wrote the book and screenplay.

The director bears responsibility for any film with his name on it. It's like the captain of a ship.

Edit: if the intent is that the Ben Affleck character is supposed to be unsympathetic then they dropped the ball. He comes across as likeable and semi heroic.

Necrothatcher fucked around with this message at 21:10 on Sep 28, 2014

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours

Steve2911 posted:

Oh that's straight from the book. Not going to go into it but here's a quote of the author responding to similar comments.

That's interesting, but really that's just a modernization of the viper-woman, femme fatale type. She should've just said she shouldn't have to apologize for that character type.

James Hardon
May 31, 2006

Mr. Flunchy posted:

That was simultaneously outstanding cinema and hugely misogynistic.

Feels like it's custom made to tickle MRAs.

I'm a PUA MRA brony fedora manlet rapist neckbeard so I'm even more excited to see it now. Misogyny ftmfw.

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

I think the book deliberately treads on very uncomfortable ground, but I wouldn't call it misogynistic. The only really sympathetic character is a woman (Nick's sister), for one. And I don't think a story depicting a vengeful, evil female character is a tacit implication that all women are evil and vengeful.

I just saw it first and foremost as using genre formula to explore the fallout of an incredibly toxic relationship. The first half especially almost plays like a thriller version of Scenes From a Marriage at times.


God I can't wait for this movie.

James Hardon
May 31, 2006
As an otaku pedophile redditor, the latest film from acclaimed misogynist and fellow MRA David Fincher, director of Panic Room starring Jodie Foster, is right up my alley. Looking forward to Ben Affleck being the hero and liberal use of the "c word" toward his wife.

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

James Hardon posted:

As an otaku pedophile redditor, the latest film from acclaimed misogynist and fellow MRA David Fincher, director of Panic Room starring Jodie Foster, is right up my alley. Looking forward to Ben Affleck being the hero and liberal use of the "c word" toward his wife.

stev
Jan 22, 2013

Please be excited.



Also TGWTDT definitely gives Fincher some sort of 'misogony immunity' for at least his next 3 films. That's just fact.

raspy trashfucker
Jul 5, 2014

Uncle Boogeyman posted:

Yep, that was all in the book pretty much (well, I didn't read anything as being offered as a justification for wife beating, but I suppose you could read that into it). I'm just curious why you blame Fincher rather than the person who wrote the book and screenplay.

because the person who wrote the book was a woman. the character mr flunchy is calling an mra strawman is one of the most realistic i've seen in a novel

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

raspy trashfucker posted:

because the person who wrote the book was a woman. the character you're calling an mra strawman is one of the most realistic i've seen in a novel

You're getting me mixed up with another dude I think.

Steve2911 posted:

Also TGWTDT definitely gives Fincher some sort of 'misogony immunity' for at least his next 3 films. That's just fact.

Hahaha, what?

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raspy trashfucker
Jul 5, 2014

Uncle Boogeyman posted:

You're getting me mixed up with another dude I think.

you edited my post in the quote to make me seem confused

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