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SniperWoreConverse
Mar 20, 2010



Gun Saliva
house of leaves is meta. It's all about multiple layers on layers and makes its own bullshit mythios about itself. The navidson part is good imo, but not everyone can get into the rest of it

Rupert Buttermilk posted:

Most people say, when they read a unique book, "I don't know how they'd ever make a movie out of this", but with House of Leaves, I don't know how you could read it digitally, nor could I ever see this book even being put to audio. There's not a lot of 'upside-down' reading, if any at all, but there ARE quite a few footnotes, one which is its own, full story at the end of the book. It's screwy and I would call it a gimmick if the whole thing didn't come together so well.

id' say it's a gimmic because i grabbed the book he made next and it was the same kind of poo poo but just loving tedious and crap

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdaM5Mv-TTo

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SniperWoreConverse
Mar 20, 2010



Gun Saliva

Beige posted:

Some people say it's quite affecting.

I don't belive this. Is this one of those goon histrornics like gently caress the ocean?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdaM5Mv-TTo

Borneo Jimmy
Feb 27, 2007

by Smythe
I read a few of Laird Barron's short stories and they were pretty good, but avoid his book The Croning.

Rupert Buttermilk
Apr 15, 2007

🚣RowboatMan: ❄️Freezing time🕰️ is an old P.I. 🥧trick...

SniperWoreConverse posted:

I don't belive this. Is this one of those goon histrornics like gently caress the ocean?

No no, it's legitimately good.

The Dregs
Dec 29, 2005

MY TREEEEEEEE!
Cormac Mcarthy, Blood Meridian and the Road. Neither are strictly horror stories, but both are plenty horrifying.

I just finished the Terror, by Dan Simmons, who can sometimes right an awesome book. This was not one of those times. He took an awesome premise: the actual crew of a couple ships looking for the Northwest Passage in the 1800's are hunted by a demon polar bear, and he fucks it up. Actually makes it boring.

SniperWoreConverse
Mar 20, 2010



Gun Saliva

Rupert Buttermilk posted:

No no, it's legitimately good.

It is good, I have it, but I wouldn't say it's way affecting or anything. People said all kind of poo poo when it first came out like they couldn't sleep in the same room as the book and poo poo like that; it's bullshit. One of the "metatextual" aspects was a fake website with all these posts about how creepy and hosed up it is like the book itself is some kind of lesser necronomicon iirc. Basically the book is full of itself and I think part of it's success was this ultra meta gimmic.

Isn't it like three or four nested stories? Navidson account wrapped in the blind guy's academic study wrapped in the story of the dude who found that, then the parts where people are reacting to his story, then the whole thing is wrapped in the author's website.

Then there's that other stuff about how there are multiple editions, some of which are themselves fictional. It's this whole huge structure that really lets people come up with all these interpretations.

The story is thematically labyrinthine, the text is labyrinthine with all the footnotes, and the physical book and typesetting is maze like. There's a part where a line of footnotes physically tunnels through like 30 pages in a 4" square box and stuff like that.

If someone were to read it I'd say get the book, unless whatever ebook editions are really well done and they put as much work into them as they put into the print edition. They could do some really interesting things in a digital format, but if it's a straight scan it's not really gonna be worth it I think.

Just don't be disappointed if you can't get into the gimmick. I suppose you don't have to delve deep into the meta poo poo if you don't want to. It is a good story if you can deal with the presentation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdaM5Mv-TTo

SniperWoreConverse
Mar 20, 2010



Gun Saliva
loving literary analysis is mutual masturbation, if somebody's reading this and is a critic loving quit and go write your own book or be a carpenter or something. It's the same thing as video games, go loving produce something instead of beating off to someone else's work all day. I'm gay as gently caress faggit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdaM5Mv-TTo

dee eight
Dec 18, 2002

The Spirit
of Maynard

:catdrugs:
I read a collection called "Nightshades and Damnations" by Gerald Kersh years ago. As I recall, they were pretty decent and creepy stories.

Mumpy Puffinz
Aug 11, 2008
Nap Ghost
H.P. Lovecraft made his work free. Read it.

SniperWoreConverse
Mar 20, 2010



Gun Saliva
I just wanna say I spent an hour punching this poo poo into a phone and uploading posts at like 46 baud. I'm gonna write a horror story about how the internet made me stupid and then meta ironically livestream my suicide. The stream comments will be published in hand bound vellum volumes with the proceeds going to a charity to get underprivileged kids fiber backbone connections

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdaM5Mv-TTo

Mumpy Puffinz
Aug 11, 2008
Nap Ghost

SniperWoreConverse posted:

I just wanna say I spent an hour punching this poo poo into a phone and uploading posts at like 46 baud. I'm gonna write a horror story about how the internet made me stupid and then meta ironically livestream my suicide. The stream comments will be published in hand bound vellum volumes with the proceeds going to a charity to get underprivileged kids fiber backbone connections

No one cares. You're not going to be the next slender-man.

Rupert Buttermilk
Apr 15, 2007

🚣RowboatMan: ❄️Freezing time🕰️ is an old P.I. 🥧trick...

I didn't know about the house of leaves website, but the guy who told me to read the book said I'd never be the same afterwards that I would think about everything differently. Not so, that's bullshit. Just read the book and enjoy it (or don't). I really liked it as a book and nothing else.

Ambitious Spider
Feb 13, 2012



Lipstick Apathy
Dan Simmons has some good ones:







And some proto-lovecraft



Phil Niekro
Jun 4, 2005

Song of Kali was pretty cool

Philthy
Jan 28, 2003

Pillbug
Read some Poe.

Freeze_Dried_Chives
Jul 22, 2007

I will not go down the hole again good sir.
My favorite horror novel is Swan Song by Robert R. McCammon. It's a lot like The Stand, so if you like that you will like Swan Song. It's about different groups of people trying to travel to the same location in a post-nuclear war America. It's pretty much a big violent road trip book. Then the devil shows up.

Wizard Master
Mar 25, 2008

I am the Wizard Master
Atlas Shrugged :D

MisterFister
Jul 6, 2003

Sticking it to THE MAN, assuming THE MAN is an innocent casual dining restaurant.
Bighead by edward lee is the best horror book.

Mumpy Puffinz
Aug 11, 2008
Nap Ghost

Phil Niekro posted:

Song of Kali was pretty cool

Was it? I need some new books.

Philthy posted:

Read some Poe.

Do this!

RAGE HOLE
Jun 7, 2006

Stendhal Stockholm

Heartbroken 2Twice posted:

Harlan Ellison rules. Definitely some cosmic stuff in there even if not all of it's horror

I Have No Mouth But I Must Scream is a pretty good short story. Mostly I just enjoy Harlan Ellison's reading of it, available here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vgc5PDtIii8

coolskull
Nov 11, 2007

House of Leaves is a fun book with neat gimmicks. Goons like to talk about it like it's either a masterpiece or dogshit but it's really just a solid book that does some unique things.

Here's one of the maybe half dozen things I've read on the internet that I can recommend w/o derision: https://www.mail-archive.com/scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com/msg02050.html

Philthy
Jan 28, 2003

Pillbug

RAGE HOLE posted:

I Have No Mouth But I Must Scream is a pretty good short story. Mostly I just enjoy Harlan Ellison's reading of it, available here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vgc5PDtIii8

The game was really good. I don't know how much of it was based on the book, though. Never read it.

Phil Niekro
Jun 4, 2005

Pumpy Muffinz posted:

Was it? I need some new books.

its more of a thriller than horror novel but the setting is interesting and does a good job of translating the fears you can feel when traveling abroad

Jim Barris
Aug 13, 2009
A good horror book? Read "Cyclonopedia: Complicity with Anonymous Materials".

Al Cowens
Aug 11, 2004

by WE B Bourgeois
Just play the first three Silent Hill games and admire the atmosphere.

Lunchmeat Larry
Nov 3, 2012

Al Cowens posted:

Just play the first three Silent Hill games and admire the atmosphere.
agreed, avoid books when video games are available instead

Mumpy Puffinz
Aug 11, 2008
Nap Ghost

WEEDLORD CHEETO posted:

agreed, avoid books when video games are available instead

shut up nerd!

coolskull
Nov 11, 2007

WEEDLORD CHEETO posted:

avoid books unless they supplement the lore of video games

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Aug 22, 2013

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RAGE HOLE posted:

I Have No Mouth But I Must Scream is a pretty good short story. Mostly I just enjoy Harlan Ellison's reading of it, available here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vgc5PDtIii8

yessss! I have that edition, for some reason the sides of the pages are blue coloured. it's pretty spooky

Neurosis
Jun 10, 2003
Fallen Rib

Borneo Jimmy posted:

I read a few of Laird Barron's short stories and they were pretty good, but avoid his book The Croning.

I liked the croning and thought it was creepy the only problem I had was it was obvious it was a short story writer's first novel and was paced oddly because of it

Oh and the protagonist did not act like a man in his eighties

What didn't you like

les fleurs du mall
Jun 30, 2014

by LadyAmbien

Maldoror
Oct 5, 2003

by R. Guyovich
Nap Ghost
The Hellbound Heart by Clive Barker. Short, and all kinds of disturbing / hosed up.

MeLKoR
Dec 23, 2004

by FactsAreUseless
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Jo6zL08GRI

Armani
Jun 22, 2008

Now it's been 17 summers since I've seen my mother

But every night I see her smile inside my dreams
Horror

Al Cowens posted:

Just play the first three Silent Hill games and admire the atmosphere.


WEEDLORD CHEETO posted:

agreed, avoid books when video games are available instead



Let me help! Silent Hill has some great influences in it but a lot of it is just based in some hosed up, sometimes true, surreal poo poo from Japan and American sources (most of those have been listed):

OpenAwesome.com has some Japanese horror manga on it (this counts as reading, right?) specifically Junji Ito, who is know for his violent work. His book 'Town Without Streets' is a direct influence for Silent Hill, among hundreds of other things.

http://openawesome.com/junji-ito-horror-manga/townwithoutstreets.html

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coin_Locker_Babies (based off of the true phenomena of Japanese parents locking their children up into coin-operated train lockers in hope the authorities will find them.)

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Junko_Furuta AKA the Girl Encased in Concrete. There are comics and novels based off of this real loving grisly murder but I can't find proper links. I can barely read the wiki entry without getting a little freaked out. :/

More poo poo to look up: http://silenthill.wikia.com/wiki/Inspirational_works_of_Silent_Hill. Has a fair number of stuff already recommended in the thread, but has some minor spoilers for the games and the books. And yes, go play the first four Silent Hills.

A lot of people have said great stuff here. Especially The Mist. My recommends are Gerald's Game and The Regulators. They are both Stephen King but the latter is under his pen name, Richard Bachmann. The Regulators is straight up cosmic horror with weird Saturday morning carton poo poo, a personal favorite.

If you have the time: Sacrament by Clive Barker is a thick but great read.

Armani fucked around with this message at 12:27 on Jul 13, 2014

Zooey Dave Chapelle
Oct 27, 2013
The Consumer by Michael Gira

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/676920.The_Consumer

Avshalom
Feb 14, 2012

by Lowtax
i'm sexy

les fleurs du mall
Jun 30, 2014

by LadyAmbien

Lol a human centipede made entirely of Ariel Sharons

Avshalom
Feb 14, 2012

by Lowtax

Quickscope420dad posted:

Lol a human centipede made entirely of Ariel Sharons

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Aug 24, 2013

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Neurosis
Jun 10, 2003
Fallen Rib

Pro tip the Awake in the Nightland anthology by John C Wright is a really good continuation of Hodgson's Nightland book (it ties into this book as well). The final story that ends the Nightland continuity is something else

The rewrite of Nightland by Stoddard is pretty good too

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