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Synthetic Hermit
Apr 4, 2012

mega survoltage!!!

comes along bort posted:

Nobody ever got laid in the back of a trans am t-top blasting Foo Fighters

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvl6yuwbHnM

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BigFactory
Sep 17, 2002



Synthetic Hermit posted:

Foo Fighters skews way younger. They belong to the Nirvana/Pearl Jam/System Of A Down crowd. AC/DC's is the Joe Six Pack/Good Ol' Boy crowd. Music tonalities are way different. AC/DC values a basic beat, a strong riff, and screeching guitar solos. Foo Fighters are more layered and melodic in comparison.

Pearl Jam and Nirvana get regular rotation on classic rock stations. It's all dad Rock. Their important records were all made 25 years ago. The local hard rock radio station round here has a new billboard up with pictures of 3 musicians: Steven Tyler, angus young, and Dave grohl. They've been the same radio format for 30 years.

Synthetic Hermit
Apr 4, 2012

mega survoltage!!!

BigFactory posted:

Pearl Jam and Nirvana get regular rotation on classic rock stations. It's all dad Rock. Their important records were all made 25 years ago. The local hard rock radio station round here has a new billboard up with pictures of 3 musicians: Steven Tyler, angus young, and Dave grohl. They've been the same radio format for 30 years.

Still, you're not going to find bikers & truckers at a Foo Fighters show. Their stuff requires too much thinking for the kind of wide audience that AC/DC attracts.

Blast Fantasto
Sep 17, 2007

USAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!


Ehhh, I think you guys are really overthinking it. AC/DC plays arenas, it's not like their audience is filled with rough customers. At the most recent Chicago show, I definitely saw multiple people in Foo Fighters shirts.

AC/DC is a band that has long transcended its original audience niche.

BigFactory
Sep 17, 2002



Blast Fantasto posted:

Ehhh, I think you guys are really overthinking it. AC/DC plays arenas, it's not like their audience is filled with rough customers. At the most recent Chicago show, I definitely saw multiple people in Foo Fighters shirts.

AC/DC is a band that has long transcended its original audience niche.

Exactly. There are families with kids at ac/dc shows. There are bikers and truckers and jocks and cops at foo fighters concerts. It's the same arena rock audience.

Th idea that the foo fighters is some cerebral high concept rock music is really funny though.

Synthetic Hermit
Apr 4, 2012

mega survoltage!!!

BigFactory posted:

Th idea that the foo fighters is some cerebral high concept rock music is really funny though.

It's relative:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBG7P-K-r1Y

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jq9r4-xvunk

Charles Martel
Mar 7, 2007

"The Hero of the Age..."

The hero of all ages


If Brian truly can't tour anymore, they should just hang it up and retire (as much as it kills me to say that). It's a miracle they pulled off a lead singer change back in 1980 when we lost arguably the greatest front man of all-time, but at this point, they've had a really awesome run, and I couldn't think of a single person that would fit that bill.

Using Van Halen as an example: Roth was great, Hagar was good, but the last thing AC/DC needs is a Gary Cherone (not comparing Dave Grohl, just making a general example). I'm not interested in seeing them go into self-parody.

Charles Martel fucked around with this message at Mar 13, 2016 around 22:24

BigFactory
Sep 17, 2002



Charles Martel posted:

If Brian truly can't tour anymore, they should just hang it up and retire (as much as it kills me to say that). It's a miracle they pulled off a lead singer change back in 1980 when we lost arguably the greatest front man of all-time, but at this point, they've had a really awesome run, and I couldn't think of a single person that would fit that bill.

Using Van Halen as an example: Roth was great, Hagar was good, but the last thing AC/DC needs is a Gary Cherone (not comparing Dave Grohl, just making a general example).

A better example is Queen with Paul Rodgers or The Doors with Ian Astbury. Who wants to see either of those bands? At least the Gary Cherone Van Halen had an album to tour in support of.

Earwicker
Jan 6, 2003



Synthetic Hermit posted:

Still, you're not going to find bikers & truckers at a Foo Fighters show. Their stuff requires too much thinking for the kind of wide audience that AC/DC attracts.

While I'll admit I've never given the entire Foo Fighters discography a particularly close listen, I've heard way more of their songs than I'd ever want to, and I can't remember a single one of them that required any thinking whatsoever.

Yes AC/DC is older and naturally has older and grizzlier fans on average but there's nothing radically different or more thought provoking about Foo Fighters, its just dad rock for a slightly younger generation of dads.

Earwicker fucked around with this message at Mar 14, 2016 around 00:37

SgtScruffy
Dec 27, 2003

Babies.

BigFactory posted:

A better example is Queen with Paul Rodgers or The Doors with Ian Astbury. Who wants to see either of those bands? At least the Gary Cherone Van Halen had an album to tour in support of.

I saw Paul Rodgers and Bad Company a few years back, and drat if Paul Rodgers' voice wasn't one of the better voices I've seen live ever. I don't quite know why they chose him for Queen, but in retrospect if I'd have known how strong it was, I would have seen it. But yeah, he's absolutely no Freddie.

I feel like they're going to finish up this tour with another vocalist for contractual obligation reasons, and then hang it up.

Synthetic Hermit
Apr 4, 2012

mega survoltage!!!

Earwicker posted:

While I'll admit I've never given the entire Foo Fighters discography a particularly close listen, I've heard way more of their songs than I'd ever want to, and I can't remember a single one of them that required any thinking whatsoever.

Yes AC/DC is older and naturally has older and grizzlier fans on average but there's nothing radically different or more thought provoking about Foo Fighters, its just dad rock for a slightly younger generation of dads.

By "thinking", I don't mean that Foo Fighters songs have super deep meanings, just that they're relatively more complex musically. AC/DC is the rock equivalent of a jackhammer yelling about sex and booze, while Foo Fighters are more like a street cleaner yelling about life problems.

Synthetic Hermit
Apr 4, 2012

mega survoltage!!!

Here's something interesting...Jim Breuer, a comedian/musician who's a friend of Brian's (see videos below), has said on his podcast that Brian told him his hearing isn't the main reason he's out of the band, Angus is:

http://www.cantonrep.com/entertainm...-kicked-to-curb
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/jimbre...3-mark-tremonti
https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast...1026284774?mt=2

Some dude over at acdcfans.net says:

quote:

Jim Breuer is true 100% dude. Given how Brian has been treated, and the fact that they're good friends, there's no doubt in my mind that Brian gave him the okay to go public about this.

Feel free to skewer me on the molecular chance it's BS, but there is no way in hell that this is being made up.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBXELY6hrRU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QqzDy0rloI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmfnDowXH1k

Charles Martel
Mar 7, 2007

"The Hero of the Age..."

The hero of all ages


http://exclaim.ca/music/article/has_brian_johnson_been_kicked_out_of_ac_dc

I don't know. I'm not making any judgments until Angus speaks up because all of this just doesn't add up. Immediately kicking your lead singer of 36 years because he has an issue with his hearing now? Come on.

I know it's becoming old hat 'round these parts, but I'm really glad I got to see them when I did; Black Ice tour with Rudd and Malcolm and last year with Slade and Stevie.

Edit:

quote:

**UPDATE**: Earlier today (Tuesday, March 15), Jim Breuer posted the following statement on his Facebook page: "I have seen some stories circulating about my podcast. As a friend, I saw Brian withdrawn for the first time in my life. He's not a quitter, he seemed hurt by the situation of being between a rock and a hard place. I spoke as a true fan and friend, simply venting as if he was a brother of mine. I hope to see him rock out one more time. You have to remember I'm a comedian & a storyteller. I definitely exaggerate and sometimes I get a little carried away!! And this was one of those times!"

Read more at http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/has-brian-johnson-been-kicked-to-the-curb-by-acdc/#lWKLYZMIjVwFUR6B.99

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Synthetic Hermit
Apr 4, 2012

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Indeed, in a series of Facebook posts, Jim Breuer has retracted his statements (scroll down):

http://ultimateclassicrock.com/bria...kicked-to-curb/

The way he spoke, he sure as hell seemed to be quoting Brian...if there truly isn't a shred of truth in that podcast, I hope his career burns to the ground.

Synthetic Hermit
Apr 4, 2012

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Cliff's daughter says that the whole thing is BS.

Synthetic Hermit
Apr 4, 2012

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According to this list of AC/DC engineer Mike Fraser's works-in-progress, the tour film was indeed shot at Wrigley.

Blast Fantasto
Sep 17, 2007

USAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!


There's rumors floating out there that Brian's replacement for the rest of the tour will be Axl Rose. Which... bleh

BigFactory
Sep 17, 2002



Blast Fantasto posted:

There's rumors floating out there that Brian's replacement for the rest of the tour will be Axl Rose. Which... bleh

That can't be true.

Cheapsteaks
Apr 25, 2008

Getting a heavy metal avatar leads to far fewer regrets than a heavy metal tattoo.

If AC/DC does try to get a replacement it probably will be someone more popular.

It's weird though because they could grab the singer from Exodus or Overkill and get that same weird snarly voice.

Synthetic Hermit
Apr 4, 2012

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Best suggestion I've heard:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zU1LNg-6aQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-I0OJRQL_u4

EugeneJ
Feb 5, 2012
Probation
Can't post for 3 days!


Axl will be good if his voice is in decent shape

We'll find out in a couple weeks

Synthetic Hermit
Apr 4, 2012

mega survoltage!!!

EugeneJ posted:

Axl will be good if his voice is in decent shape

Axl has too much baggage to take a risk on. Attitude, voice, fitness, reliability. His persona's too flashy anyhow.

SgtScruffy
Dec 27, 2003

Babies.

Also wouldn't this interfere with the big GnR Reunion tour? I mean, I've heard that everyone loving hates each other so it was probably a precarious situation that was going to end early like the Van Halen reunion back in 2012, but still.

empty baggie
Oct 22, 2003



http://www.alternativenation.net/ma...s-joining-acdc/

EugeneJ
Feb 5, 2012
Probation
Can't post for 3 days!


Synthetic Hermit posted:

Axl has too much baggage to take a risk on. Attitude, voice, fitness, reliability. His persona's too flashy anyhow.

This was 5 years ago - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mI1mOtlLSdE

If he comes out looking/sounding like that, he'll be fine

Anonymous John
Mar 8, 2002


SgtScruffy posted:

Also wouldn't this interfere with the big GnR Reunion tour? I mean, I've heard that everyone loving hates each other so it was probably a precarious situation that was going to end early like the Van Halen reunion back in 2012, but still.

The whole GNR reunion hypetrain has totally fizzled. Remember those opaque movie theater advertisements a few months ago? If these guy had their act together, we would have heard of their touring plans by now.

Charles Martel
Mar 7, 2007

"The Hero of the Age..."

The hero of all ages


This whole thing is getting bizarre. I wish they would release an official statement on what they're doing instead of speculation flying around.

EugeneJ
Feb 5, 2012
Probation
Can't post for 3 days!


Charles Martel posted:

This whole thing is getting bizarre. I wish they would release an official statement on what they're doing instead of speculation flying around.

http://www.nme.com/news/acdc/92509

quote:

Reports recently suggested that Rose was set to team up with AC/DC for the remainder of their tour but now their PR has replied to NME's request for a comment, saying: "Nothing official to announce. Will update you if that changes."

That's not a denial

Synthetic Hermit
Apr 4, 2012

mega survoltage!!!

If it's Axl, I'll personally strangle Angus.

Sheen Sheen
Nov 18, 2002


Kinda sad how Angus seems intent on cratering the band's legacy at the finish line here, especially if he cut Brian against his wishes. One of the great things about AC/DC is that they seemed like they were above this type of rockstar ego jackassery, at least on the surface.

man nurse
Feb 17, 2014

Oh yeah, that guy is totally straight. I saw a whole thing about him on the VH1.

I'd be stoked to see Axl singing with AC/DC, so this is pretty much the best possible outcome for me. Still, it'd probably be classier just to hang it up at this point, but I'd be lying if I said this isn't something I'd enjoy seeing.

Tunklord Supreme
Jun 4, 2011

bitch I look like Gohan
smokin up that marijuana


oh jesus, Axl/DC is going to be worse than Van Haggar.

EugeneJ
Feb 5, 2012
Probation
Can't post for 3 days!


Sheen Sheen posted:

Kinda sad how Angus seems intent on cratering the band's legacy at the finish line here, especially if he cut Brian against his wishes. One of the great things about AC/DC is that they seemed like they were above this type of rockstar ego jackassery, at least on the surface.

At the same time, if they're contractually obligated to fill the dates, it might be cheaper to throw a few million dollars at Axl for 10 gigs than it would be to cancel the shows altogether and face lawsuits

But optimally, yeah, wait until Brian can do one final show and have it be a giant farewell gig at Wembley Stadium or something

Sheen Sheen
Nov 18, 2002


EugeneJ posted:

At the same time, if they're contractually obligated to fill the dates, it might be cheaper to throw a few million dollars at Axl for 10 gigs than it would be to cancel the shows altogether and face lawsuits


Yeah, I get that, and if I'm being honest, I actually think that Axl Rose and Angus Young playing AC/DC's Greatest Hits would be a lot of fun to see--just not if it's at Brian's expense

I guess Winter 2016 was just the straw that finally broke AC/DC's back...

EugeneJ
Feb 5, 2012
Probation
Can't post for 3 days!


What are the odds that GNR opens for the 10 gigs and Axl sings with both bands every night?

That would be fantastic

Nail Rat
Dec 29, 2000

Haters gonna hate


EugeneJ posted:

What are the odds that GNR opens for the 10 gigs and Axl sings with both bands every night?

That would be fantastic

While I have no interest in Axl-led AC/DC in a vacuum, if this happened I'd pay a lot of money to go to a show.

Charles Martel
Mar 7, 2007

"The Hero of the Age..."

The hero of all ages


EugeneJ posted:

What are the odds that GNR opens for the 10 gigs and Axl sings with both bands every night?

That would be fantastic

He would have to show up and not cause a riot first.

empty baggie
Oct 22, 2003



It's true I guess....
http://www.socialmediamorning.com/a...-upcoming-tour/

Edit: probably fake. Can't find any other confirmation and I don't watch Kimmel so...

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man nurse
Feb 17, 2014

Oh yeah, that guy is totally straight. I saw a whole thing about him on the VH1.

And now they've been photographed leaving the same studio together. If AC/DC opening for GN'R with Axl singing for both bands turns out to be true, then hot drat, I am in rock heaven.

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Nail Rat
Dec 29, 2000

Haters gonna hate


empty baggie posted:

It's true I guess....
http://www.socialmediamorning.com/a...-upcoming-tour/

Edit: probably fake. Can't find any other confirmation and I don't watch Kimmel so...

Yeah the source for that is a music satire site.

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