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In playing as Germans. Seems like a fun game, but when do I get out of the newbie battles where you just fight over a barn in the middle of the woods? Or is that because of the location the "war" is centering around at the moment?
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For people just starting out and are under Rank 3, hop in mumble and play in a squad with us, we can pull you into higher rank, combined arms games, where the game really shines.  When using the cash shop to buy weapons, it looks expensive because you are skipping the progression. If you earn the weapon through the progression system you can buy it with earned credits. Feindfeuer posted:Are the US forces still getting overrun on a regular basis thanks to german human wave tactics that just can throw 10 times the numbers at the US teams cause most people play germans and invest heavily into those deployable assault teams? This game was hilariously one-sided during earlier beta rounds with germans sometimes bringing more tanks into a battle than the US was able to field infantry. When I started two days ago, Germans were out numbered pretty heavily. LumberingTroll fucked around with this message at 18:40 on Jul 14, 2014 |
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Jul 14, 2014 18:37
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This is a pretty decent game. The lower end of infantry is slow, but once you get up to Tanker/Pilot - then the money comes in faster. Its still slow, just not as grueling as the initial income. I've unlocked the Tanker with the first Pz variant (pretty much just anti-infantry) but its a slog to get the credits to buy the next tank (and I still haven't gotten it despite "unlocking" the tank after that).
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Jul 14, 2014 18:38
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The majority of your income comes from your salary which is based on your rank, KDR give very LITTLE in way of credits, I went 50:6 and only made 250 credits. But made over 5k for winning the battle.
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Jul 14, 2014 18:41
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Would be nice if you could actually play and it not crash every time you try to load a mission.
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Jul 14, 2014 18:50
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I and the people playing yesterday for 8+ hours didn't have that issue at all, check the forums to see if its a common issue and if there is a fix.
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Jul 14, 2014 19:06
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Definitely liking this more than I thought I would. Been messing around with my Tank crew soldier and having a lot of fun. Definitely going to work my way up to a medium tank because so far I like being a tank driver the best.
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Jul 14, 2014 19:44
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The wars just reset, we are going Julius (as it has a higher population)
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some small grievances I have with infantry combat is that your soldier can't go from prone to a crouch stance without first standing straight up like a dummy and then crouching and that rifles should handled like they did in red orchestra in terms of deadliness. The war that my american guy was in is over now so I'll give germany a shot in the Hannibal war.
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Joined julius as a german. Around 2000 people online when I just went in, didn't know that many people played this game, kind of crazy.
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Jul 14, 2014 21:16
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Yeah still can't play any missions, game crashes upon 100% load, and on the login screen it now shows me as having -66/0 experience. Restarting and re installing did nothing
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LumberingTroll posted:The wars just reset, we are going Julius (as it has a higher population) So are we going Germany or USA? Sounds like Germany so far.
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Jul 14, 2014 23:43
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Can we please go USA? I don't want to lose all my new poo poo. 
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Anticheese posted:Can we please go USA? I don't want to lose all my new poo poo. I already went germany myself. Lost my rank and gear but I don't mind. Can earn it back. Plus germany has so many people zerg rushing it that it's easier to win. Just would prefer to play with people I can coordinate with instead of the faceless masses.
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Jul 14, 2014 23:59
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Alright. I went German.
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Got a squad going. Anyone want in? Asking here since I don't think we have a better way of teaming up yet.
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Archonex posted:Got a squad going. Anyone want in? Asking here since I don't think we have a better way of teaming up yet. We've been meeting up in the mumble listed in the OP, just finished playing with a squad. It was a lot of fun with some of us switching to light armor and then having a really long drawn out battle.
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This game keeps crashing when I try to load a random mission or join a mission. Does this game not work on 64 bit OS, I've tried reinstalling, updating drivers, and I created a new soldier. Sometimes I get to the scoreboard and it crashes after the countdown. This sucks
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I can play just fine so far on a 64bit OS so that isn't likely to be the issue.
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kojicolnair posted:We've been meeting up in the mumble listed in the OP, just finished playing with a squad. It was a lot of fun with some of us switching to light armor and then having a really long drawn out battle. Looks like I have a bad cert so I can't play with everyone yet. Just got a tank too. What a shame.  Edit: On the other hand, I had cash to spend, so I dropped money on a King Tiger. Hilarious amounts of destruction ensued. At one point the allies were pretty much lining their infantry up and hurling volleys of AT missiles at me from expendable launchers. It did nothing. Turns out high explosive rounds from a cannon that can pulp tanks do plenty to them though.  Edit 2: They just hid in a barn when they realized they couldn't stop me. So I gently eased the (extremely long) barrel of the gun inside and fired it. The look on their face when this huge cannon poked through the closed doors probably would have been worth getting a picture of. Typically that trick works to hide from german starter tanks. Not this time.  And to clarify, yes, I alt tabbed out to post this. The survivors kept shooting at me with small arms fire in a fruitless effort to stop my rampage while I typed this out. I am an unstoppable god of war. Archonex fucked around with this message at 02:00 on Jul 15, 2014 |
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Jul 15, 2014 00:50
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Money is a little hard to grind. I seem to make about 3000 a win, but if we don't win I seem to get very little. I just need 4k more to get the tank crew and then god knows how much more to actually get the tank.
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Jul 15, 2014 01:54
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The crewman comes with a Pz1 automatically, also your credit gain is based on rank, you get a salary.
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Would I be better off going a pilot or even sticking to an infantry man? I like the idea of a pilot a little more actually. How do the planes handle and are there bombers?
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Lord Windy posted:Would I be better off going a pilot or even sticking to an infantry man? I like the idea of a pilot a little more actually. How do the planes handle and are there bombers? I can't say how they handle but there are definitely bombers. I've had them do attack runs on my tanks.
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You always need at least 1 infantry man. If you dont you cant play in a lot of games. You can join a game as infantry and switch to something else by changing the assault team you are in. This is done in the bottom right of the spawn selection screen. Bombing is a pain, and takes a lot of practice, there is no aid to help you with knowing where it will land.
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Archonex posted:I can't say how they handle but there are definitely bombers. I've had them do attack runs on my tanks. There aren't actual bombers (yet), just a fighter with a bomb. The flight model is really basic, planes have way too much health, and it's impossible to spot anything on the ground unless it's in the open. I haven't managed to hit anything with the bomb yet, but I killed a couple P-38s that were trying really hard to kill their own paratrooper transport, and got a ground support ribbon for missing a plane and headshotting an infantry under it that I couldn't even see. edit: people in this game seem to be dumb as poo poo. I hopped in a Tiger as hull-gunner, driver ran it straight into the river. Got in another one, driver bailed out to shoot at a truck so I stole it and killed a bunch of stuff. Then I got in one of those quad .50 AA mounts, shot at an enemy tank to see if it would do anything (it didn't) but the entire crew bailed out anyway. Griz fucked around with this message at 04:49 on Jul 15, 2014 |
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As someone who just went Pilot, let me save you the trouble and say DON'T go pilot. If I could take it back I would, and go back to Infantry/Tank Commander.
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Lord Windy posted:As someone who just went Pilot, let me save you the trouble and say DON'T go pilot. If I could take it back I would, and go back to Infantry/Tank Commander. I believe you can actually go back to being infantry, at least on my tank guy I can click on infantry and supposedly pay for it.
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You can also recruit a new guy into your... team, or whatever. A new infantry guy is 7500, but none of your achievements/etc transfer to the new guy. Switching a pilot/tanker/etc back to infantry costs 2500, but if you go back to infantry with a particular guy you'll have to pay full price to return to the profession you left.
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Lassitude posted:You can also recruit a new guy into your... team, or whatever. A new infantry guy is 7500, but none of your achievements/etc transfer to the new guy. Switching a pilot/tanker/etc back to infantry costs 2500, but if you go back to infantry with a particular guy you'll have to pay full price to return to the profession you left. I'll go with a new guy in that case. I only need to get an extra 2500
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Why the hell would you decide to go seal clubbing in the nazi bandwagon and not be prideful american soldiers? Games alright. It needs way more. Lack of players on each side (I think it was twenty, it's been a few weeks) mean that teams get really lopsided real fast, especially if there are disparities with gear. Maybe two or three months ago there was a big wave of American players and it showed, with the American teams getting creamed because they didn't have any of the hideously priced bazookas. On the flip side, though, you feel great when you mow down the entire enemy team. Protips; Planes are really bad at actually doing stuff, including shooting down other planes. Being on voice comms to dedicate where tanks are would probably help a lot, but that's still 'just' a tank kill every two minutes or so, if you even hit/kill it. Tanks are pretty great but it's a huge, painful grind. Your first tank for either side is a anti-infantry tank and you level up to get access to better tanks by killing enemy tanks. It goes as well as you might think. (If you're actually going this route, shoot their turret and you do steady chip damage.) The rifles in boxes are actually bolt action rifles, which are rather costly. Unless you're leveling up the starter rifle there is no real reason to not use them for distant fighting. Any items you pick up drop to your feet when you switch them out. Your basic rifle is one of the better weapons around, though, so don't worry about it to much. Don't get a melee weapon, they're real bad. You can shoot AT mines to detonate them. Being a rear end in a top hat gremlin charging up at a bundle of tanks with some isn't actually rewarding at all in terms of game-points/money, but you will rescue your team from defeat. Always buy bazookas for your cars and tanks first thing, medic kit isn't really all that useful in comparison. Always keep your first man infantry. Put this in the OP in sirens or something, it's really big. Make a second/etc guy for other army roles. Infantry is your breadwinner and tanks are expensive. Can't think of anything important otherwise. Game needs work real bad, only 4-5 maps really shows, despite it's 'clever' attempts are diversity. Doesn't help that the airfield map is the worst one in a pile of mediocre ones. (You'll always be on the airfield map) Game has it's good moments, tho. I've had fun games on the city map when it was a bunch of US Infantry ATs against a smattering of German ones and, more importantly, a heavy tank AT. We held that bridge through rain and sunshine until the Germans got clever and made a convoy of Tigers roll down the bridge, protecting infantry who hugged behind it. We still managed, but it was tough and legit fun. Most of the time you'll get stuck vainly hiding from tanks or yelling at pubbies in chat to actually capture a point while you murder the entire enemy team by yourself. It's fun for a while, but the game has a small development team and hasn't really been going anywhere for a bit now.
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Turning your first dude into a paratrooper is fun, even if you don't get to carry as many guns.
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The MP28 is a good close combat weapon, because of the lag/netcode. You can run up to a Semi-Automatic Rifleman and unload a clip onto him before he even knows what's going on. It's also fairly decent at medium range, and easy to grind up to level 5 to get the MP40
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The MP40 costs 113,000 or so. Grinding up to SMG level 5 is by far the easy part. e: Also, free 3-day membership http://www.mmorpg.com/giveaways.cfm/offer/525/Heroes-Generals-3Day-Veteran-Membership-Giveaway.html Lassitude fucked around with this message at 14:19 on Jul 15, 2014 |
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So just a heads up, but the stuff about anti tank gear for infantry being over-expensive is a load of bull. AT is only overpriced if you go for the improved infantry version. Literally any vehicle can stock an infinite supply of anti vehicle pickups for infantry. It's amazingly cheap to pick it up too. One panzerfaust to the back of a medium tank will pretty much wreck it. Getting a jeep with infinite AT pickups is actually a really good idea for everyone to do since you can just park the thing as a mobile supply point in some semi hidden area and then go tank hunting. Especially when you consider that like eight people can ride in one jeep/kubelwagon if they hang off the sides of it. Pretty much anyone can afford to do that too. Means teams really benefit from tank hunters. And there's even tons of secret pickups for them all over the maps. I found a 5 second respawning panzerfaust in a ruined belltower on a massive blown out church. I then proceeded to do my best Assassin's Creed impersonation to leap across the ruined roof and smoke a few tanks before the enemy team had to pull back and root me out of the place. The only complaint I have at this point is the somewhat limited number of maps. And I think that's at least partially because some players on the general side will just keep trying to jam a lovely assault team composition through into the worst spots. Last night we kept ending up assaulting this town with a bridge leading into it and it was like that scene at the end of Private Ryan, sans us even getting past the drat bridge since the allies were the ones with armored support. It was just a huge zerg rush of Germans getting gunned down as they rushed a well defended choke point. Oh, and at one point they had air support. And some really good players who knew to zero in on you the moment someone drove up with a kubelwagon full of panzerfausts to hand out to break their lines. They also had infantry players who also knew how to man the anti aircraft flak guns to hit people on the ground with horrifying accuracy. So they won more than partially because they really knew their poo poo. Suffice to say that without any armor on our side to push past the bridge it was a slaughter since they were so dug in. And some dumbass kept trying to rush the place with a simple setup of a bunch of light armor and motorized infantry assault teams. It balanced out though. Earlier that night a few german players apparently organized a huge armored push that I was a part of. Cue a hilarious series of assaults where we basically just rolled over the enemy team as they tried to dodge a deluge of AP shells. It apparently stalled when we hit that drat town and the armor went somewhere else. Edit: quote:Can't think of anything important otherwise. Game needs work real bad, only 4-5 maps really shows, despite it's 'clever' attempts are diversity. Doesn't help that the airfield map is the worst one in a pile of mediocre ones. You'll always be on the airfield map This is pretty untrue. Pretty sure it's dependent on which zones you're attacking. There's a poo poo-ton of zones, but since battle lines get established really easily it's easy for repeat battles to hit the same area over and over if the defense is extremely good. Just to give my own experience i've had the airfield map only once. Some other goon said there were a lot of other maps in the game way back. So either they were removed or they're spaced over the map now. quote:Lack of players on each side (I think it was twenty, it's been a few weeks) mean that teams get really lopsided real fast, especially if there are disparities with gear. Archonex fucked around with this message at 15:12 on Jul 15, 2014 |
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Archonex posted:So just a heads up, but the stuff about anti tank gear for infantry being over-expensive is a load of bull. AT is only overpriced if you go for the improved infantry version. Literally any vehicle can stock an infinite supply of anti vehicle pickups for infantry. It's amazingly cheap to pick it up too. One panzerfaust to the back of a medium tank will pretty much wreck it. That's good knowing that now, but they should tell players that in some way, any way, because why would people assume jeeps are roving AT spawns? And how hard would it be to just put some hovering 'weapons here' icon over the weapons crates? The game has enough poo poo going on that it doesn't need an easter-egg hunt built into it. Archonex posted:And I think that's at least partially because some players on the general side will just keep trying to jam a lovely assault team composition through into the worst spots. Last night we kept ending up assaulting this town with a bridge leading into it and it was like that scene at the end of Private Ryan, sans us even getting past the drat bridge since the allies were the ones with armored support. It was just a huge zerg rush of Germans getting gunned down as they rushed a well defended choke point. gently caress maps like this, at some point there should just be an 'auto-victory' or something, because playing those scenarios is the least fun poo poo.
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Fart Car '97 posted:That's good knowing that now, but they should tell players that in some way, any way, because why would people assume jeeps are roving AT spawns? And how hard would it be to just put some hovering 'weapons here' icon over the weapons crates? The game has enough poo poo going on that it doesn't need an easter-egg hunt built into it. There is a weapon icon over them. Pay close attention to them when they're not manned. It's on the back. I imagine they didn't mention it since it's literally impossible to miss once you modify your vehicle for the first time. Though it'd probably be a good idea to mention it anyways for people who want to go full infantry when playing. quote:gently caress maps like this, at some point there should just be an 'auto-victory' or something, because playing those scenarios is the least fun poo poo. If we could have just gotten by their line we'd have been fine. Or had more people actively tank hunting instead of pushing. In fact we did in the last few minutes, and it was a lot easier to deal with. Panzerfausts can be angled up to basically be one shot mortars with a little bit of finessing their aim. So with a bit of manpower doing that it's easy to shell targets from on foot with a kubelwagon stocked with fausts. I took out an AA gun from across the river with nothing but a bit of luck and three fausts, much to the apparent annoyance of an armored car watching it. Unfortunately all the pubbies in those matches were colossally stupid. We're talking "take on a sherman tank with an armored car" level of stupid. They'd rush in, get slaughtered, and then repeat trying to cross the giant stone bridge that literally had a three way kill zone set on up on it. Meanwhile i'm pretty sure we got a bunch of tank kills before they wised up to our antics. So at least it pays to fight smart in the game. Earlier that night we somehow pulled off a pretty incredible victory at a train station too. So armor isn't apparently an instant win if it's used badly. They had tanks just shelling the place like it was a constant mortar barrage. We had no armor (This was, looking back, probably the map before we hit the town of doom). Some goons were just viciously hunting down the tanks and kept blowing them up any time they dug in to shell us. Which let the pubbie infantry and some other goons go on the offensive and curb stomp their undermanned infantry teams. Archonex fucked around with this message at 15:23 on Jul 15, 2014 |
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Archonex posted:There is a weapon here icon over them. Is the weapon icon the one that looks like a couple bullets? I haven't seen any icons resembling a gun or bazooka at all, despite having come across a lot of guns in crates in various places.
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Fart Car '97 posted:Is the weapon icon the one that looks like a couple bullets? I haven't seen any icons resembling a gun or bazooka at all, despite having come across a lot of guns in crates in various places. It is. If you get close to it you'll be able to pick up a panzerfaust by hitting E. There's two vehicle upgrades you can get at the moment. Any vehicle from a tiny jeep to a massive tank can mount these upgrades. This is on top of being able to modify a vehicle's ammo. One upgrade is an infantry healing/resupply kit and the other is an anti-tank kit. The medical kit has the typical cross as it's symbol, and the anti-tank kit has a set of bullets as it's symbol. The anti-tank kit is typically vastly more useful in most games. Most pubbies will die long before they need healing and resupply, and having a lovely jeep stocked with infinite fausts/bazookas makes for a big game changer if used right. Doubly so when you consider that there's no reason not to have some sort of vehicle assigned to your infantry. Also, getting hit by an anti-tank weapon as infantry will usually kill you in one shot, so it can be useful to surprise dug in defenders with. Just as a general rule of thumb, any time the bullet icon is over a car or tank it's going to be an anti-tank weapon pickup. If it's on the ground it's a supply drop that'll refill your ammunition. They should probably differentiate that so people who don't have vehicles know what's up. Maybe it'd get more people tank hunting. There are also random weapon pick-ups scattered throughout the world. Look for large open boxes (larger than the ammo boxes) designed to actually store weaponry. They tend to have some pretty powerful guns. Hell, just chancing across a panzerfaust in a sniper's nest means you basically can dominate that entire area of the map until people start hunting you down. Edit: Having a vehicle as infantry won't disqualify you from joining basic infantry teams either. It just means that you can join motorized assault teams to spawn it in when they're available. There's pretty much no reason not to at least have a jeep/kubelwagon as your vehicle. Archonex fucked around with this message at 15:53 on Jul 15, 2014 |
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