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Just to elaborate on why cheaping out on your early picks is silly, there's $2.07 billion worth of cap space in the league and $1.826 billion worth of cap hits. That's including the bad dumb contracts and the Prongers/Savards. Even once the remaining RFAs are signed, there will be around $200 million in total cap space in the league or $6.7 million per team. So you have to pick above average contracts to even get a team right up to the cap. That's also ignoring the fact that you won't even get a chance to pick up some of the good and expensive players because they'll be long gone by the fifth round or so. I'm sure if you specifically pick the most expensive players every chance you get, you can get way over the cap... but why would you do that?
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Crosby had 84 assists in his second year as a professional. Tavares' career high in points is 81
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Jul 17, 2014 02:58
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I respect that Crosby understands that, after a certain point, the difference between career earnings of xx million dollars vs. yy million dollars is essentially meaningless if you aren't having sex boat parties. I donno, obviously Crosby is unquestionably a better player in nearly all facets of the game, but it depends your gambling attitude. Do you bet on the safer pick, happy to sacrifice return in exchange for odds, or do you put your money on the brain injured superstar? I mean I would pick the concussion bonus in the time it takes to follow the finger with my left and and then my right eye, but it isn't like Tavares is some schlub. Crosby is the player of our generation if he survives his career. Maybe Boomer knows something we don't regarding that. Maybe we should call the FBI. And drat, this started fast.
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Jul 17, 2014 03:00
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Jamwad Hilder posted:Crosby had 84 assists in his second year as a professional. Yeah but to be fair he got to play 30% of his ES time with Colby Armstrong. I mean that's worth like 50 assists easy. (real talk he spent a lot of time with Malkin, but man he spent a LOT of time with Armstrong)
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Jul 17, 2014 03:02
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Hahaha tavares first overall??? What in the flying gently caress
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Jul 17, 2014 03:06
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WHAT PART OF THE WORD "MAVERICK" DO YOU PEOPLE NOT UNDERSTAND?!
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Jul 17, 2014 03:07
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I forgot Boomer picked first last time too (wtf) and took Crosby then. I guess not wanting to repeat the same draft is kind of a decent reason too, even if you haven't stated it.
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Jul 17, 2014 03:08
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I think it's funny to use Crosby's injury history as a mark against him too even though he's always come back and been just as good. Tavares, on the other hand, hasn't played a single game of competitive hockey since the Olympics and we have no idea how it might affect his game.
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Jul 17, 2014 03:09
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I think it took until Andrew Ladd to approach this level of controversy last time. This is appropriately enough shaping up to be like the second season of every reality show ever.
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Jul 17, 2014 03:13
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Jordan7hm posted:I forgot Boomer picked first last time too (wtf) and took Crosby then. I guess not wanting to repeat the same draft is kind of a decent reason too, even if you haven't stated it. I guess that is a reason but if I could draft almost the exact same team over again I would do it because that team was awesome, even with a few dud picks. Also, this time around we're allowed to pick unsigned draftees who will certainly come on hella cheap ELCs.
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Jul 17, 2014 03:17
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I would argue Crosby has lost a step though, or (more accurately) his game has changed. He used to be so dynamic with his skating, just cutting in and driving the net while playing keep away his first few years. I feel like his game has moved away from that. He remains just as effective, apparently, so who knows if the change was his injuries or just his evolution as a player/student of the game. I just don't think he is as physical as he was. Which is a good way to, you know, not get brain damaged.
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Jul 17, 2014 03:31
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Two picks in and this is already a hoot!
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Jul 17, 2014 03:32
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Paulocaust posted:29th is actually really good but I will trade it because I am also good I will do this, if that's still an offer. It makes scheduling infinitely easier for me.
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Jul 17, 2014 03:34
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Jamwad Hilder posted:ya there's not much of a drop off between the guy with a career PPG of 1.4 and Tavares, who has scored a point per game exactly one time, and that was this year when he played 59 games To be fair, and I am not advocating for Tavares over Crosby in any way, Tavares missed the PPG mark two years in a row by one point each year. With that said, Crosby has always scored above a PPG, and is at 1.4 PPG for his career.
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Jul 17, 2014 04:35
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more like John Tavarass.
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Jul 17, 2014 04:44
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Stickarts posted:I would argue Crosby has lost a step though, or (more accurately) his game has changed. He used to be so dynamic with his skating, just cutting in and driving the net while playing keep away his first few years. I feel like his game has moved away from that. He remains just as effective, apparently, so who knows if the change was his injuries or just his evolution as a player/student of the game. I just don't think he is as physical as he was. Which is a good way to, you know, not get brain damaged. Yeah he doesn't engage hulk mode along the boards as much as he used to. On the other hand his decision making and timing are better than ever. His shot is also much better than it was his first few years in the league. The best hockey he ever played was right before he got David Steckeled so I don't know if I'd say he's lost a step as that wasn't that long ago. That year he was insanely good. Every shift it was just scoring chance after scoring chance. His ability to tip in pucks that year was absurd too. He must have scored like seven or eight tip goals. He was on pace for something like 60/60. I dunno if he would have hit 60 goals but I think it was all but certain he'd hit 120 points. It was gonna be the best season by a player since like come back Lemieux. It's really too bad he got hurt. Even though he hasn't quite got back to that level he's still far and away the best player in the league.
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Jul 17, 2014 04:57
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Will we have a google doc. Might get hard to just use the thread.
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Jul 17, 2014 05:26
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Dang I was hoping Crosby was going to fall to 4 edit: having such a high pick is actually quite boring, I would have preferred something lower to really have to look for a good player tofes fucked around with this message at 07:43 on Jul 17, 2014 |
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Jul 17, 2014 07:36
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tofes posted:Dang I was hoping Crosby was going to fall to 4 I'll trade you my gem of the #15 pick. Never be bored when you're the most average pick!
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Jul 17, 2014 13:02
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yeah can we get the spreadsheet going? we're only two picks in (i think, jordan said 'thanks for not picking Crosby' so i assume he's taking him) and it's already hard to keep track of.
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Jul 17, 2014 13:53
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Jamwad Hilder posted:yeah can we get the spreadsheet going? we're only two picks in (i think, jordan said 'thanks for not picking Crosby' so i assume he's taking him) and it's already hard to keep track of. Yeah, making a basic one now.
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Jul 17, 2014 14:11
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Stickarts posted:I will do this, if that's still an offer. It makes scheduling infinitely easier for me. Noted. Are there any other trades so far? e: wait you guys are like 2 picks apart. I'm not sure that's what paulocast meant e2: HERE IS THE LINK TO THE SPREADHSEET: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1a80PmyvcOnXidTbKzsd0mkxjVKIP1LoiHcXtMuUMKjU/edit?usp=sharing I am a government employee this summer and our idea of what is a modern internet browser is perhaps not the same as the rest of the world's. I'm lucky I got this working at all basically. I'll pretty it up at a later time. The first round draft order is in there at least. Jordan7hm fucked around with this message at 14:24 on Jul 17, 2014 |
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tofes posted:Dang I was hoping Crosby was going to fall to 4  Don't worry, there are more rounds. Habibi fucked around with this message at 14:26 on Jul 17, 2014 |
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Jul 17, 2014 14:23
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haha yea, I know Paulo and I are almost pick neighbours, but my job is such that I could be working days anywhere from 6 to 14 hours long, anywhere from 4-7 days a week, making my availability fairly to completely unpredictable. The closer to an end I am the easier it will be for me to make timely picks as I won't have to frantically try to catch up on X number of picks or try and follow the thread in moments where I really don't have time. I will essentially have like a week in between picks to get my poo poo in order/catch up on in-thread discussion. I'm doing this for you!
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I don't mind, but paulo would need to confirm it. I PMd zletters. On that note, if you don't have PMs and want a heads up when it's your pick, you can send me an email and I will email you when you're on deck. If you do have PMs I'll try to PM you. I can't promise I'll be prompt with this during the entire draft, but if it speeds it up.
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Jordan7hm posted:e2: HERE IS THE LINK TO THE SPREADHSEET: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1a80PmyvcOnXidTbKzsd0mkxjVKIP1LoiHcXtMuUMKjU/edit?usp=sharing you should maybe put it in the OP i added team names and filled out the second round too so we're good to go for a while
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Jordan7hm posted:I don't mind, but paulo would need to confirm it. Yeah I'll trade if it makes things easier. What am I now? 22? E: 27. Good enough. Paulocaust fucked around with this message at 15:55 on Jul 17, 2014 |
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Jul 17, 2014 15:43
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Who made the spreadsheet last time around? It was great and had lots of stuff automatically calculated.
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Jul 17, 2014 15:45
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ThinkTank posted:Who made the spreadsheet last time around? It was great and had lots of stuff automatically calculated. I did the calculation stuff The only issue was it started to choke google docs as we got further into the draft
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Jul 17, 2014 15:54
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Zodijackass should just get the active player with the most cups.
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Jordan7hm posted:I did the calculation stuff
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Jul 17, 2014 16:42
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Jul 17, 2014 17:49
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This is pretty brutal. Was Zletters good in the last thread?
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hard to say, he really only posted his own draft picks last time and he was towards the end of the order so there weren't a ton of long periods between when he was up
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Jul 17, 2014 18:21
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I say we kill him!
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This isn't an ideal way to start, but as I said I'm not consensus picking someone in the first round. If someone who doesn't have a team wants a team, post here. At 6pm EST (or thereabouts, at 6pm I'll be out shopping for a gift, but I should be able to take 2 minutes to look at my phone) if zletters hasn't posted, the team is yours.
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Jul 17, 2014 18:33
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Jordan7hm posted:This isn't an ideal way to start, but as I said I'm not consensus picking someone in the first round. You did it for Ottawa at 6th overall before I took the team last time around. 
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Rutkowski posted:You did it for Ottawa at 6th overall before I took the team last time around. (that wasn't me) + also we ended up replacing the GM there anyway, which is kind of my point
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Jul 17, 2014 18:43
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Just move everyone up a spot and give him the 30th pick
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tofes posted:Just move everyone up a spot and give him the 30th pick um. Actually I could do this even though no kidding that's your suggestion. Other people's thoughts? It gives up more time to find a replacement if that's the route we go at least.
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