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Hbomberguy
Jul 4, 2009

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KLK is almost the best anime. Gatchaman Crowds is probably the only one I can definitively say is better.

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Hbomberguy
Jul 4, 2009

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Hitlersaurus Christ posted:

I do this both to piss off anime nerds and because that's what they are.

don't you mean japanese cartoon nerds?

Hbomberguy
Jul 4, 2009

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Hole Wolf posted:

trigger grew out of gainax, everyone involved loving loves drawing titties

kill la kill is good because it examines the obsession with tits, and ultimately concludes 'tits are cool I guess but so is egalitarianism, we should smash the patriarchy and capitalism'

Hbomberguy
Jul 4, 2009

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posting in gbs is stupid tho what are you gonna do

seems like it would be a perfect fit

Hbomberguy
Jul 4, 2009

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David Copperfield posted:

i was concerned about the boobs and poo poo until i realized, :unsmith: "yeah, they're making a reason for it/making the whole point of the outfit being comfortable with your body"

and then the creepy sexual abuse came :stare:

It's creepy on purpose. The abusive character literally and I mean literally is the patriarchy.

Hbomberguy
Jul 4, 2009

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StandardVC10 posted:

still a marked improvement over the ryuko-brainwashed arc that preceded them

a one episode arc oh nooooo

Hbomberguy
Jul 4, 2009

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icantfindaname posted:

I do appreciate that klk is honest about being a ridiculous smorgasbord of fanservice as opposed to other animes which seem to like to pretend that there is no fanservice and everything is done with pure intentions and oh my i have no idea why that panty shot's there must be a mistake.

but it's still gross and weird

If you're grossed out by the events of KLK then you are a good person.

There is a scene, in the show, where several of the good guys watch 'a scene from klk the anime' on a television and are totally loving freaked out by it.

These guys made Little Witch Academia. They know how to make a good show - and they also know how to make the ultimate artistic statement against lovely ones.

Hbomberguy
Jul 4, 2009

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egoraptor is lovely and bad and is more like Angel Cop than anything gainax ever did

Hbomberguy
Jul 4, 2009

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icantfindaname posted:

as opposed to gainax which is definitely not weird, gross, hosed up, lovely, and/or bad

flcl is actually really good, and i admit to liking the rest of it but i'm not going to claim it's not hosed up

I agree - there's a difference between something not being hosed up and something being still good, or doing interesting things with its hosed-upness. Gainax has always been about making fun of anime idiot baby nerds, it was ahead of its time. Otaku No Video is a cool thin guy rediscovering anime and becoming an out of shape loser, with interviews with the Gainax animators as they play crazy hosed-up nerds but with their faces censored and voices changed. It's self-hating but also incisive.

flcl is hosed up but in a way that's subtle. It's about a boy who starts having erections, only it's 'not hosed up' because it's a figurative dick and it occasionally spews out OTT anime fights instead of jizz.

Hbomberguy
Jul 4, 2009

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A show can be 'about' creepiness and have creepiness in it. I would argue that's pretty necessary. Misogyny is one of the villains in the series. Its personification abuses one of the main characters in between Running An Evil Corporation. It's not about acknowledgement at all.

The central joke of KLK's costumes is that they are only slightly more exaggerated than most magical girl-esque shows nowadays, and to be honest Sailor Moon seemed a bit much to me even at the time. The show is making fun of the way this type of narrative typically makes women dress in lovely clothes in the name of empowerment.

It's barely even a twist that the villains are literally the people who make clothes.

Hbomberguy
Jul 4, 2009

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Man GBS is really worried about people banning tits and boobs

In KLK you're the people who pay money to watch the fight scenes on tv

Hbomberguy
Jul 4, 2009

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Nudist Beach are the best. They have a revolutionary spirit but are so in love with totally rejecting clothes that they have no real weapons or strategy - their real strength is to convince the protagonist (& the viewer) to combat ideology without becoming a crazy naked idiot who can't actually help anything.

SHISHKABOB posted:

No what it really needs is my idol smg to show up and complement hbomberguy

And then a few other choice posters

Then it would be so good

are you gonna link lord krangdar and vermain to this thread or shall i

Hbomberguy
Jul 4, 2009

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kill la kill wasn't like the lovely animes I normally watch and associate with the medium and was animated in a deliberately silly manner evoking Inferno Cop. Clearly, this was a mistake on the part of literally the best animation director in the business, who also made Inferno Cop

FartRomancer.EXE posted:

there's nothing deep about kill la kill and if you think there is you're dumb

I don't know how to measure depth

Beef Waifu posted:

little witch academia is the anime trigger has ever made and better than both inferno cop and klk

This is not even a sentence.

Hbomberguy fucked around with this message at 00:48 on Jul 20, 2014

Hbomberguy
Jul 4, 2009

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argondamn posted:

i have to justify the fact that i enjoy this series that has a partially nude 17 year old in it.

People don't enjoy something *for no reason*, doofus. klk is funny and also good while managing to be excruciatingly horrifying in the best possible way.

the thing about lovely porno animes is they tend to be really bad and not stand up to any sort of basic reading. the fact klk does is a point in its favour.

oh man someone likes something that had boobs in it they must want to tittyfuck a child loolololololololol

I really don't give a gently caress about goon cred or getting points or whatever. My posting is a testament to this, all my posts are garbage

Hbomberguy
Jul 4, 2009

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what is symbolism

Hbomberguy
Jul 4, 2009

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The alien represents the inner survival instinct of humanity, AKA killing and loving. it literally explodes out 'from within' a human. The Corporation wants to study the alien, learn from it - become more like the megafuckers. This gets every agent of the corporation directly involved killed every single time.

KLK directly references alien numerous times. It also features an evil corporation that is trying to harness the power of evil super-aliens, essentially doing their bidding. apparently you were too distracted by the tits whoops!

Hbomberguy
Jul 4, 2009

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Beef Waifu posted:

hbomb is not being ironic, unfortunately

what a weird way to interpret my posts :smug:

ed: hbomberguy

Hbomberguy
Jul 4, 2009

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lol dropped plot threads

still waitin on a skype invite fucker what don't you wanna talk to me about boobs and egalitarianism

Hbomberguy
Jul 4, 2009

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oh poo poo

hi sex

Hbomberguy
Jul 4, 2009

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Cracked Dot Com articles about 'secretly deep' anime and movies crack me the gently caress up...dot com

Hbomberguy
Jul 4, 2009

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Hbomberguy
Jul 4, 2009

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Hbomberguy
Jul 4, 2009

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dude with tiny penis carries around a big floppy stick 24/7

hmm

Hbomberguy
Jul 4, 2009

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i need you to prove the creators intended this to be a funny joke before i can laugh at it. how do I know if imaishi just likes big sticks????

Hbomberguy
Jul 4, 2009

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COBRARocky posted:

you cant enjoy kill la kill until you write an essay on why its a deconstruction of slut shaming and patriarchy and upload it to tumblr

Are you saying that anime can't do those things at all, or just KLK? And if so, by what criteria is the show not about all the things I've been writing about?

Shakespeare just wrote sex comedies for a living. Spoilers: things that are the 'least deep' are actually 800% deeper than something that prances about with flashing crosses everywhere quoting the bible just to 'look deep.' A lot of anime fans fall for that poo poo though and call Eva and Madoka groundbreaking. KLK is groundbreaking for the precise reason that it pisses those people off and makes them uncomfortable. loving good.

Hbomberguy
Jul 4, 2009

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Love's Labours Lost

Hamlet

King Lear

e: which parts were wheelspinning? I don't remember this. What plot threads were dropped and what effect does dropping them do?

Hbomberguy
Jul 4, 2009

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If love be blind, love cannot hit the mark.
Now will he sit under a medlar tree
And wish his mistress were that kind of fruit
As maids call medlars when they laugh alone.
O Romeo, that she were! Oh, that she were
An open arse, and thou a poperin pear

Hbomberguy
Jul 4, 2009

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Try gatchaman crowds, it's very short and very very good. It seems to bring out the best in people.

Hbomberguy
Jul 4, 2009

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Fargin Icehole posted:

I don't like anime, I figured I'd see a recommendation or something, maybe to help me think that anime might be good.
I saw this thread and it's pretty much the same creepy poo poo, except some of it is ironic i guess?

I read this thing by Jonathan Swift, it's really creepy and cannibalistic but it's ironic i guess?

I saw starship troopers, its all about endorsing fascism and military rule but its ironic i guess?

Most KLK characters, even small background one-episode ones, are designed as references to a genre/show/anime-concept already well-known to viewers. The show is directly engaging with 'anime' and its problems. There is a scene in Kill La Kill where the main characters watch a scene from Kill La Kill on a television and are disgusted by it.
Partway through the show it starts to tear itself free of the narrative contrivances and explore a solution beyond those concepts. Television - Anime - is revealed to be a tool of the bad guys, and they fight against it by working together. A lot of folks have mistaken this totally cool shift as a mistake, even though the characters go on pretty clear speeches about how they're embracing the inherent madness of human beings.

I dunno why so many people want to keep talking about tits.

Phobophilia posted:

gatchaman crowds owns because it is a liberal pro-gun screed

after watching that please watch shinsekai yori because it is a maoist third-worldist indictment of liberalism and nuclear proliferation

I'm on it.

Hbomberguy
Jul 4, 2009

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Davincie posted:

gatchaman was good but i dont remember pro gun stuff, it was more of a power of blogging thing imo

It's about the abyss of freedom. Instead of relying on silly cartoon heroes we should all, every one of us, be our own heroes and trust others to do the same - implicitly fighting for egalitarian justice to make everyone equally heroic. Who the show's real villain is, and how you conquer them, is a cool symbolic message that I endorse and won't spoil.

Hbomberguy
Jul 4, 2009

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Zzulu posted:

The further removed from high schoolers in retarded outfits you get the better stuff ya can find

I've only ever read one manga though so I'm no expert on the subject but it was "Berserk" and it owned. Some dude in some sort of medieval european setting wrecking stuff, also monsters.

That is good

is there more of that kind of stuff??

I just today started reading this after loving the show/movies, it's great.

One of the few over-the-top violent stories that also manages to have an interesting plot with nuance and themes. It reminds me of the Princess of Mars stories but with more and better of everything that was good about them. So much more and so much better that this comparison doesn't actually make any sense

Hbomberguy
Jul 4, 2009

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I think they do, they just made all the money in the world and are addicted to some anime princess idol maker game or something. In other words it's held back mostly because it's made by a Japan.

Hbomberguy
Jul 4, 2009

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you watch anime so of course you do

i don't watch anime i just make everything up so i win

Hbomberguy
Jul 4, 2009

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hemale in pain posted:

lmao this is a real post

What was wrong with my post? please correct me if I was wrong.

MoaM posted:

I watch a minute of Madoka and saw a little girl running and stumbling and some sort of 3D scribble hovering over a city and turned it off.

good

Hbomberguy fucked around with this message at 20:39 on Jul 20, 2014

Hbomberguy
Jul 4, 2009

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my ex-fiance was a lesbian the entire time, i try not to think too much about the ramifications of it

Hbomberguy
Jul 4, 2009

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Hole Wolf posted:

and criticizing anime is like half of what anime does these days and it's not very interesting

then dont watch it

Harime Nui posted:

Kill la Kill is good because the protagonist is an idiot who never takes her friends' advice and gets the poo poo humiliatingly kicked out of her by life repeatedly because she never thinks ahead. I can relate.



don't lose your way

Hbomberguy
Jul 4, 2009

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i too would have preferred an anime about high school fights, what an original idea

zzzz

Hbomberguy
Jul 4, 2009

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icantfindaname posted:

for hating anime so much, some people can't seem to stop talking about it or how X show is really great and doesn't count as anime because reasons

in other words, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWXJs06TAIc

Anime can be good, just like people can. Trouble is 90% of both are easily distracted by tits and not examining anything else in useful detail.

The internet, nay the SA forums, could do a heck of a lot of good for the world. Instead, we gave dooby a doghouse.

Hbomberguy
Jul 4, 2009

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What is solipsistic about giving a poo poo about things you spend your time doing? Your tit-based cynicism appalls me. I know you can do better!

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Hbomberguy
Jul 4, 2009

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Effectronica posted:

i'm referring to the content of the series. kill la kill as a lengthy bit of cynicism about anime is on par with american superhero comics and fanfiction as far as trenchancy goes. kill la kill as an excuse to show off tits, rear end, and nude men at least works as softcore porn

What's cynical about doing the impossible and kicking reason to the curb?

And since when was porn not trenchant? Come on, step it up.

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