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Marshmallow Blue posted:Yeah even at 1ppr AP still gets a good chunk of catches to boot. I cant believe he even fell to 6 Well the upshot of going 3WR to start the draft is I'm fairly confident I have the best WRs by a lot, except for maybe the guy that got Dez/Julio/Gordon - and his best RB is Sproles.
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Zypher posted:Do you start 3 WRs? yes, 2 RB 3 WRs and 1 RB/WR/TE flex
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I did two fantasy drafts in the span of 3 weeks. Pick number is in parenthesis. Standard Yahoo League QB-Tom Brady (69), Eli Manning (129) RB-Marshawn Lynch (9), Doug Martin (32), Reggie Bush (49), Maurice Jones-Drew (72) WR-AJ Green (12), Randall Cobb (29), Emmanuel Sanders (89), Marques Colston (92), Mike Evans (109) TE-Jason Witten (52), Charles Clay (132) K-Matt Bryant (149) D/ST-New England (112) Standard ESPN League QB-Drew Brees (21), Tony Romo (124) RB-Jamaal Charles (4), Shane Vereen (69), Stevan Ridley (76), Danny Woodhead (93), Darren McFadden (117), Christine Michael (141) WR-Brandon Marshall (28), Wes Welker (52), Anquan Boldin (100), Tavon Austin (148) TE-Vernon Davis (45), Antonio Gates (172) K-Matt Bryant (189) D/ST-Tampa Bay (165) Just noticed I took Matt Bryant in both leagues..weird
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Krazee Eyez Killa posted:I did two fantasy drafts in the span of 3 weeks. Pick number is in parenthesis. I can't see either of these teams finishing in the bottom half of your league, but I also can't see either team winning. These are like prototype "draft not to lose" teams IMO
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OK, so my real league is probably going to be 14 or possibly 12 teams, hosted on ESPN, so I did a 12-team ESPN mock draft which is below. This is 12-team, no PPR, I picked 10th, and in this format you must draft both a D/ST and a kicker. Also, you cannot draft more than three TEs. My draft:  Here's the draft order: ** (10) Duluth Doofuses - Peyton Manning QB ** (15) Duluth Doofuses - Montee Ball RB ** (34) Duluth Doofuses - Vincent Jackson WR ** (39) Duluth Doofuses - Vernon Davis TE ** (58) Duluth Doofuses - Rashad Jennings RB ** (63) Duluth Doofuses - Michael Floyd WR ** (82) Duluth Doofuses - Jordan Reed TE ** (87) Duluth Doofuses - Pierre Thomas RB ** (106) Duluth Doofuses - Rueben Randle WR ** (111) Duluth Doofuses - Dennis Pitta TE ** (130) Duluth Doofuses - Terrance West RB ** (135) Duluth Doofuses - Marvin Jones WR ** (154) Duluth Doofuses - Alex Smith QB ** (159) Duluth Doofuses - Devonta Freeman RB ** (178) Duluth Doofuses - Nick Folk K ** (183) Duluth Doofuses - Buccaneers D/ST D/ST Here are the complete first six rounds... I wanted to show this for context because I made some odd choices in this draft and I think this will help to show why. pre:Round: 1 (1) Team Ladd - Adrian Peterson RB (2) Team Deeg - LeSean McCoy RB (3) Team Newell - Jamaal Charles RB (4) Team andrade - Marshawn Lynch RB (5) Team 5 - Matt Forte RB (6) Team Saldana - Calvin Johnson WR (7) Team Turner - Eddie Lacy RB (8) Team Preston - Jimmy Graham TE (9) Team Mullee - A.J. Green WR ** (10) Duluth Doofuses - Peyton Manning QB (11) Team Williams - Aaron Rodgers QB (12) Team Marley - Doug Martin RB Round: 2 (13) Team Marley - Drew Brees QB (14) Team Williams - DeMarco Murray RB ** (15) Duluth Doofuses - Montee Ball RB (16) Team Mullee - Dez Bryant WR (17) Team Preston - Demaryius Thomas WR (18) Team Turner - Arian Foster RB (19) Team Saldana - Brandon Marshall WR (20) Team 5 - Julio Jones WR (21) Team andrade - Zac Stacy RB (22) Team Newell - Alshon Jeffery WR (23) Team Deeg - Alfred Morris RB (24) Team Ladd - Le'Veon Bell RB Round: 3 (25) Team Ladd - Giovani Bernard RB (26) Team Deeg - Antonio Brown WR (27) Team Newell - Reggie Bush RB (28) Team andrade - Julius Thomas TE (29) Team 5 - Jordy Nelson WR (30) Team Saldana - Colin Kaepernick QB (31) Team Turner - Randall Cobb WR (32) Team Preston - Ryan Mathews RB (33) Team Mullee - Rob Gronkowski TE ** (34) Duluth Doofuses - Vincent Jackson WR (35) Team Williams - Andre Johnson WR (36) Team Marley - Ben Tate RB Round: 4 (37) Team Marley - Pierre Garcon WR (38) Team Williams - C.J. Spiller RB ** (39) Duluth Doofuses - Vernon Davis TE (40) Team Mullee - Andrew Luck QB (41) Team Preston - Andre Ellington RB (42) Team Turner - DeSean Jackson WR (43) Team Saldana - T.Y. Hilton WR (44) Team 5 - Keenan Allen WR (45) Team andrade - Larry Fitzgerald WR (46) Team Newell - Frank Gore RB (47) Team Deeg - Victor Cruz WR (48) Team Ladd - Matthew Stafford QB Round: 5 (49) Team Ladd - Roddy White WR (50) Team Deeg - Cam Newton QB (51) Team Newell - Percy Harvin WR (52) Team andrade - Wes Welker WR (53) Team 5 - Toby Gerhart RB (54) Team Saldana - Trent Richardson RB (55) Team Turner - Shane Vereen RB (56) Team Preston - Michael Crabtree WR (57) Team Mullee - Chris Johnson RB ** (58) Duluth Doofuses - Rashad Jennings RB (59) Team Williams - Torrey Smith WR (60) Team Marley - Seahawks D/ST D/ST Round: 6 (61) Team Marley - Steven Jackson RB (62) Team Williams - Jason Witten TE ** (63) Duluth Doofuses - Michael Floyd WR (64) Team Mullee - Ray Rice RB (65) Team Preston - Julian Edelman WR (66) Team Turner - Cordarrelle Patterson WR (67) Team Saldana - David Wilson RB (68) Team 5 - Nick Foles QB (69) Team andrade - Robert Griffin III QB (70) Team Newell - Mike Wallace WR (71) Team Deeg - Reggie Wayne WR (72) Team Ladd - Stevan Ridley RB So, the elite RBs were all taken by the time my first round came, and so were Megatron, AJ, and Jimmy Graham. Question 1 is: Should I have drafted Demaryius here instead? I figured Peyton is a #1 round pick and Demaryius is more of a round 2, and going 10th I decided there was a decent shot I'd get Demaryius anyway. But, then I changed my mind and panicked as I saw tier 2 RBs rapidly going away and decided to grab the best RB left in round 2. I like Montee Ball as my RB1 given he's the ninth RB picked but should I have taken Demaryius and just resigned myself to no RB1? Second question: as you can see I took three TEs, and probably gave up some better RB/WR options to do it. However, I figured Vernon in round 4 was a goddamn steal: Jordan Reed in the 7th felt like a no-brainer as well, and Dennis Pitta still being available in round 10 just felt like another huge bargain. I would anticipate in this league having one of those later two TEs up on the trading block unless Vernon has an injury or seems to break down (which is very possible, he's on the older side of the curve now and Kaep has a lot more viable targets this season than he did for the beginning of 2013, where Vernon and Boldin were his only two pass options). So... should I have packed on more WR/RB slots or was it good to take three TEs? Finally: Alex Smith in the 13th round seemed like a great pick-up even though I have Payton. I figure he's a consistently OK QB, puts up regular good numbers, and someone in the league is going to have their starter get injured and consider Smith a good trade option. Or if Payton gets injured, I can start Smith and not definitely lose the game. So should I have taken Smith in the 13th round? The bucs seems like a wildcard D/ST but in my league there's no cost attached to waiver wires and I tend to trade around D/STs a lot based on upcoming matchups. 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I've been trying out mocking in the 9th spot of a 10 man draft. I just did this and I'm pretty happy about it. QB: Nick Foles RB: Zac Stacy, Rashad Jennings, Ray Rice, Fred Jackson, Joique Bell WR: AJ Green, Brandon Marshall, Reggie Wayne, Riley Cooper, James Jones, Jordan Mathews TE: Julius Thomas K: whocares D: whocares That's a 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 K, 1 D league with PPR. It seems I always end up with too many starting RBs in most of my leagues by the time it's playoffs time. So, I'm experimenting with going early on my recievers. Sure, maybe Zac Stacy/Rashad is a bit of a gamble. But, I got Ray Rice super late. Fred Jackson is gonna end up taking the most carries in the Bills offense. And Joique Bell is a bad rear end. Even WR wise, they all speak for themselves. But, I like James Jones late as camp reports are coming out that Matt Schaub is looking super sharp and Jones would be the one to be his new Andre Johnson. And the Raiders are gonna be playing from behind.
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First time in a league. Did a few mock drafts last night. In a 12 man with RB/RB/WR/WR and a WR/RB/TE flex. 6 pts for TD and points for kick returns. Outside of that I don't know how our league deviates from the norm, so here is the scoring:  (1) Peyton Manning QB (24) Montee Ball RB (25) C.J. Spiller RB (48) Rashad Jennings RB (49) Percy Harvin WR (72) Eric Decker WR (73) Tom Brady QB (96) Zach Ertz TE (97) Kyle Rudolph TE (120) Mike Evans WR (121) James Jones WR (144) C.J. Anderson RB (145) Andre Brown RB (168) Shayne Graham K (169) Saints D/ST D/ST (192) BenJarvus Green-Ellis RB I grabbed Manning 1.1 because I saw someone mention that in 6 PTD he can clean house.
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PyroDwarf posted:First time in a league. Did a few mock drafts last night. In a 12 man with RB/RB/WR/WR and a WR/RB/TE flex. 6 pts for TD and points for kick returns. Outside of that I don't know how our league deviates from the norm, so here is the scoring: This is very unusual scoring. All of the bonuses break my brain, but they seem to be really QB heavy so I don't mind Peyton with the 1.1 pick in this scoring system. In fact, I think 1.2 and 1.3 probably should've been Rodgers and Brees judging from the scoring. Taking Spiller at #25 was terrible, especially since you get bonuses for every 5 rushing attempts. You should've aimed for a workhouse back that gets more carries and has less risk. There certainly should have been some available. The same goes for Jennings, to a little lesser extent. Harvin is extremely valuable in this league since you get 1 point per 10 return yards. Drafting Tom Brady after you already have Peyton makes no sense. You will never start Brady over Peyton. Seek out a QB needy team and trade Brady to them. Drafting both Ertz and Rudolph probably isn't very good either. They're the same level of player and there surely was a RB or WR that had more value at that spot. Even your kicker and Defense are bad for a 12 team league, considering you didn't wait till the last round. You'll need to play matchups weekly. Drop BJGE and CJ Anderson and look for wide receivers or running backs backs that get some action on offense and also return kicks.
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Aug 8, 2014 08:55
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Doing a few mocks to get back into the swing of things in preparation for a money league. Actual is PPR, 5pt/QB TD and long play bonsues but I'm just doing PPR mocks since whatever. Picking 6 every time since that's where it's going to be for real. First 1 Demarco Murray 2 Gio Bernard 3 Julius Thomas 4 Vincent Jackson 5 Bishop Sankey 6 TY Hilton 7 Emmanuel Sanders 8 Colin Kapernick 9 Sammy Watkins 10 Mike Evans 11 Andre Williams 12 Russell Wilson 13 Khiry Robinson Second (lot of timeouts which was annoying) 1 Eddie Lacy 2 Demarco Murray 3 Aaron Rodgers 4 Vincent Jackson 5 Ryan Matthews 6 Julian Edelman 7 Jordan Reed 8 Emmanuel Sanders 9 Steven Jackson 10 Terrance Williams 11 Andy Dalton 12 DeAndre Hopkins 13 Martellus Bennett
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Aug 9, 2014 01:14
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PyroDwarf posted:First time in a league. Did a few mock drafts last night. In a 12 man with RB/RB/WR/WR and a WR/RB/TE flex. 6 pts for TD and points for kick returns. Outside of that I don't know how our league deviates from the norm, so here is the scoring: Grabbing Manning (or any QB) that early in a league where it's 6pt passing TDs isn't worth it. It's about replacement value and he's not good enough to make up that much of the difference (unless you think he's going to improve upon his season from last year, I guess?). That said, with the hilariously stupid QB scoring in that league, a QB early isn't that foolish. Any QB at 1 (in a 1 QB league) even in that scoring, is probably a bit early early, but if you were playing with other smart people (arguable, given the scoring setup) they wouldn't have let one of the top 3 fall to you at the end of the 2nd round. Given that that scoring is so incredibly skewed to the top tier QBs, it's pretty vital you grab one so even if 1st overall is "too early" for a QB, it's a totally defensible move. With that said, you're drafting in a mock room where, in general, people mock drafting a roster to play with pretty standard rulesets and your rule set is just about as far away from conventional as you could possibly get, so any mock you do is going to be a fairly poor representation of your actual draft.
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Aug 9, 2014 03:12
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Thanks for the tips! I didn't realize the scoring was so weird.
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PyroDwarf posted:Thanks for the tips! I didn't realize the scoring was so weird. I didn't realize that was a mock, not a real draft. That's good. Since your scoring is so weird with all the bonuses, try plugging all your settings into a site like fftoolbox. It'll give you a customizable cheatsheet that can help give you some guidance. Generic player ratings and ADP isn't going to be much help to you since your scoring is so odd.
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Aug 9, 2014 21:38
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I did the fftoolbox thing. It's telling me that Parcy Harvin is my top pick for WR compared to BeerSheet's (12 team 6 TDP) 20th place. Looking at his stats, I don't see why that is. Did he just become the sole kick returner on STL? Same with Coradarrelle Patterson #2 on fftoolbox and 24 on BeerSheet. Fftoolbox is also suggesting Brees over Manning.
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Aug 10, 2014 01:59
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Return yardage? E: oh yeah your league has high return yardage points. Those two will print money for you in your league as they're highly used as receivers and returners. Zypher fucked around with this message at 02:28 on Aug 10, 2014 |
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Aug 10, 2014 02:16
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PyroDwarf posted:I did the fftoolbox thing. It's telling me that Parcy Harvin is my top pick for WR compared to BeerSheet's (12 team 6 TDP) 20th place. Looking at his stats, I don't see why that is. Did he just become the sole kick returner on STL? Same with Coradarrelle Patterson #2 on fftoolbox and 24 on BeerSheet. Fftoolbox is also suggesting Brees over Manning. Wow the further your scoring gets fleshed out, the more arbitrary and loving retarded it gets. 1pt per 10 return yards is insane. That's basically a guaranteed 3 points for every non-touchback kickoff nevermind the punt return yardage. Harvin would be on his own planet if the SEA defense wasn't as good as it is (less kickoffs to return). Another thing I just noticed (I'm sure there's more to see, too) in your leagues abortion of a scoring system: each D/ST gets 1 point per tackle. The average amount of plays ran per game last year was about 65 and let's say there were ~5 scoring plays per game (per team) that didn't result in a tackle. That's a raw 60ish points per D/ST just starting off with. So that's cool, weekly your highest scoring starter will almost always be an interchangeable D/ST. I'm going to be honest, this league is a loving abortion. If you're interested in playing fantasy on an ongoing basis, get the gently caress out of this thing and into something more standard because this thing is random, arbitrary, stupid, and is going to loving infuriate you if you're trying to be strategic about it. Literally every piece of advice you ask for, are given, or read, will be completely irrelevant to the rule-set you are playing in right now. Also, I love the really basic full point cutoffs. This whole thing screams of a first timer that went through the scoring system drunk/high, not knowing you could do decimals and arbitrarily deciding poo poo. Also, just a heads up, SEA is the abbreviation for Seattle, not STL... that's St. Louis. Deer_fire fucked around with this message at 08:40 on Aug 10, 2014 |
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Deer_fire posted:Wow the further your scoring gets fleshed out, the more arbitrary and loving retarded it gets. 1pt per 10 return yards is insane. That's basically a guaranteed 3 points for every non-touchback kickoff nevermind the punt return yardage. Harvin would be on his own planet if the SEA defense wasn't as good as it is (less kickoffs to return). Well then. Thanks for the heads up on the SEA/STL thing, I obviously football well. I have no idea how he came up with the scoring. Maybe I'll try to hop into some non-insane league. Since I'm staying in this league, I guess I'll try to grab Patterson, Harvin and a top 5 QB early. Edit: Holy balls, ESPN standard Vs. my league scoring: Manning 368 Vs. 870, Brees 329 Vs. 798. Are we setting a record for stupid high scoring? PyroDwarf fucked around with this message at 12:10 on Aug 10, 2014 |
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So I just plugged in your settings, and here are my thoughts on drafting for your league: QB You MUST draft one of Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers, or Drew Brees to win this league. They give you a 20 points per game advantage over the median starting QB. RB/WR The return yardage has an impact, but not as huge as FFToolbox is suggesting. WRs are actually hugely undervalued in your league because it's 1 point for every 5 rushing yards and 5 rushing attempts. Target volume rushers first. Of course, these are some of the highest rated guys in fantasy so it's your LeSean McCoys and Jamaal Charles of the world. If you can't get them, I'd target some of these guys: Marshawn Lynch, DeMarco Murray, Le'Veon Bell, Toby Gerhart, Ryan Mathews, and Rashad Jennings. WRs score so little that I'd wait on them as long as you can. Even your top tier WRs like Percy Harvin and Patterson won't make much of a difference compared to QB and RB scoring. TE Meh DST These scores are hugely inflated, but the top DST barely gives you a 5 points per game advantage over a replacement level DST. Don't bother going after the Seahawks early, but target either the Bills or the Patriots later.
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Been practicing drafting at the dreaded #7-8 spot using Draft Wizard, here's my latest results. I really don't like this team. Lacy is a fine RB1, Ellington a serviceable #2, Sankey is shaky at flex. After that, I just flat-out couldn't bring myself to draft any of the remaining RBs at the position I would have had. I was looking for Khiry Robinson as a deep pick, or Christine Michael for his upside, but couldn't bear to take them too early only to find them gone by the next pick or whatever. My roster is pretty gross and I'm not sure where I made mistakes. I feel okay drafting in other spots (especially top 4, or in the 9/10 slot), but the middle of the back end is cruel to me. Need help. There must be RBs with obvious upside that I'm in the dark about. e: Looking back over it, one thing that jumps out at me is the 7th round. I'd much rather have Steven Jackson than Michael Floyd given the context, I think. \/\//\/ Not picking Rice is a matter of principle for me this year Pancakes by Mail fucked around with this message at 22:09 on Aug 10, 2014 |
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edit: ^^^^ I would have gambled on Ray Rice a lot earlier and probably either Steven or Fred Jackson. Did a couple 10 team, ESPN standard, QB/2RB/2WR/TE/FLEX/D/K 1-5 Matt Forte RB 2-16 Le'Veon Bell RB 3-25 Julio Jones WR 4-36 Vernon Davis TE 5-45 Percy Harvin WR 6-56 Torrey Smith WR 7-65 Nick Foles QB 8-76 Pierre Thomas RB 9-85 Marques Colston WR 10-96 Fred Jackson RB 11-105 Anquan Boldin WR 12-116 Knowshon Moreno RB 13-125 Tony Romo QB 14-136 Martellus Bennett TE 15-145 Robbie Gould K 16-156 Saints D/ST QB: Foles (7), Romo (13) RB: Forte (1), L. Bell (2), P. Thomas (8), F. Jackson (10), Moreno (12) WR: Julio (3), Harvin (5), T. Smith (6), Colston (9), Boldin (11) TE: Davis (4), Bennett (14) ------------------------------------------ 1-3 Jamaal Charles RB 2-18 Montee Ball RB 3-23 Antonio Brown WR 4-38 Vernon Davis TE 5-43 Roddy White WR 6-58 Percy Harvin WR 7-63 Nick Foles QB 8-78 Pierre Thomas RB 9-83 Reggie Wayne WR 10-98 Anquan Boldin WR 11-103 Knile Davis RB 12-118 Philip Rivers QB 13-123 Martellus Bennett TE 14-138 Roy Helu RB 15-143 Robbie Gould K 16-158 Buccaneers D/ST QB: Foles (7), Rivers (12) RB: Charles (1), Ball (2), P. Thomas (8), K. Davis (11), Helu (14) WR: A. Brown (3), White (5), Harvin (6), Wayne (9), Boldin (10) TE: Davis (4), Bennett (13) I'm think I'm pretty happy with these, but I just noticed a lot of similarities while I was typing this out. Probably pulling Davis too high. edit: Maybe too high on Boldin, too? DrPossum fucked around with this message at 22:16 on Aug 10, 2014 |
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Pancakes by Mail posted:Been practicing drafting at the dreaded #7-8 spot using Draft Wizard, here's my latest results. Ellington at 27 is a little early. Zac Stacy at 27 would have been good value in my opinion. Sankey at 47 is a little early in any case, especially since you already had 2 RBs, so I might have gotten a QB (probably Stafford) or WR in his place. On the plus side, I think your picks from round 9 and on look really good.
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Leperflesh posted:OK, so my real league is probably going to be 14 or possibly 12 teams, hosted on ESPN, so I did a 12-team ESPN mock draft which is below. 1. You should have drafted Demaryius, he's in the same tier as Megatron. Manning is not a first round pick unless you're in a league where passing touchdowns are worth six point. 2. What good is a value pick if you won't be able to use it? If I like my starter TE I won't even bother drafting a backup. Vernon's ADP is in the mid 50's so getting him in the 4th was a reach, not a steal. Reed is a good pick but again his ADP is around where you got him; if he was your TE1 then I could see that being viable. Here's the rule about drafting to trade; it's a lottery ticket that usually fucks you over. If people wanted that player they would have drafted him. 3. Around the 13th it really doesn't matter who you draft, you're going for upside. Alex's upside is less than Peyton's floor so this was a bad pick.
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Separating my own draft into a new post. I used FantasyPro's autodrafter and treated it like a 10 team, 0.5 PPR league even though the drafter treated it like full PPR. 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 1FLX, 1DST, 1PK league with standard scoring beyond the half PPR. I picked sixth, and overall I feel very good about this draft. QB: Cam Newton (9), Tom Brady (11) Newton in the 9th has a high floor with his run game, and Brady in the 11th means I either got a major steal if he returns to glory or a solid backup and QBBC option. QB is so deep it's loving sick this year. I was at the point where I was shrugging my shoulders and making a QB pick because there really wasn't anything else worth looking at on the board. RB: Zac Stacy (4), Toby Gerhart (5), C.J. Spiller (6), Frank Gore (8), Ahmad Bradshaw (13) Arguably my weakest position, although I'm comfortable with it. Stacy proved himself in 2013 as a reliable starter and there's little to think he won't continue to perform adequately. Gerhart has more floor than ceiling, and Jacksonville doesn't exactly inspire confidence. Frankly all of my RBs past Stacy are risky with question marks. Bradshaw is a particularly interesting option; Richardson shows all signs of being a disaster and in the 13th round I like the possibility of him excelling. WR: Demaryius Thomas (1), Brandon Marshall (2), Torrey Smith (7), Eric Decker (10), Terrance Williams (12), Kelvin Benjamin (14) Easily my strongest position, and I drafted with the intent of mitigating risk as much as possible. Thomas and Marshall are proven, known quantities, and I think Smith has a high upside. Eric Decker is a talented individual with a market share opportunity; getting a flex worthy WR in the 10th seems like a no brainer. Williams is already a WR2 in a high octane offense (assuming Romo stays healthy), and Benjamin is lighting up a storm in preseason. TE: Rob Gronkowski (3) All signs point to Gronk being healthy, and with a 10 team league I should be able to find a backup or fill-in where necessary. Getting Graham upside in the third should really help solidify my team, and is worth waiting on RBs for. PK/DST: Baltimore Ravens (15), Winners Don't Draft Kickers I guess eventually I should pay attention to DSTs and PKs, but frankly I never really care about them. Ravens look fun but I would be streaming or doing a committee anyway.
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Thank god this is a just-for-fun league, because my draft did not go ideally. ESPN standard scoring, 5th pick of 12. 1. Matt Forte 2. Brandon Marshall 3. Julius Thomas 4. Cam Newton 5. Rashad Jennings 6. T.Y. Hilton 7. Stevan Ridley 8. Cecil Shorts 9. Khiry Robinson 10. Christine Michael 11. Mike Evans 12. Ben Roethlisberger 13. Kenny Stills 14. Josh Gordon (I BELIEVE) 15. Texans' D 16. Robbie Gould
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12-team, .4 PPR keeper QB: Aaron Rodgers WR: Demaryius Thomas WR: Percy Harvin (K) RB: Jamaal Charles (K) RB: Ryan Mathews TE: Dennis Pitta W/T: Pierre Garcon (K) W/R/T: Cordarelle Patterson (K) BN: Brandin Cooks, Justin Hunter, Jarrett Boykin, Terrence West, Jeremy Hill, Carlos Hide, Christine Michael K: Matt Bryant LB: Chad Greenway LB: Khalil Mack LB: Jacquain Williams DB: Eric Weddle (K) DB: T.J. Ward DB: Devin McCourty DL: ? D: BN: NaVorro Bowman (hoping he gets put on return IR so I can stash him without having to burn a roster spot. I figuring at least one of those RBs has to be good. Looks like I'll at least have to cut Hunter/Boykin for a D, maybe both or one and Michael/Hyde if I have to roster Bowman (rd. 21 keeper) My defense is weak, I need to be a hawk on the wire. I feel like my offense is stupid vvv e: stupid, like "dope" or "fly" Teemu Pokemon fucked around with this message at 03:56 on Aug 11, 2014 |
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^^^ offense is stupid how? You've got some heavy hitters in thereDoppelganger posted:Thank god this is a just-for-fun league, because my draft did not go ideally. ESPN standard scoring, 5th pick of 12. for a 12 team, i don't think thats *truly* horrible, but you're definitely lacking a serviceable FLEX and depth. personally I'd think hard about flipping cam or orange julius for a half decent wr2 and a qb/te one tier down DrPossum fucked around with this message at 03:41 on Aug 11, 2014 |
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14 teams, .5 PPR, drafted 14th QB: Philip Rivers RB: Toby Gerhart, Rashad Jennings, L. Dunbar, C. Michael, J. White WR: AJ Green, Jordy Nelson, J. Maclin, G. Tate, J. Gordon, K. Britt TE: J. Reed, L. Green DST: Rams Draft board:  In retrospect I regret not taking Antonio Brown over Jordy Nelson, but that's sort of a tossup. Also I took two TEs with week 10 BYEs, but this is a league that does a lot of trading so I'm not overly concerned. And my RB depth is non-existent but I'm by far the most active person on the waiver wires so I'm not overly concerned unless Gerhart and Jennings both suffer catastrophic injuries. Zypher fucked around with this message at 06:58 on Aug 11, 2014 |
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:1. You should have drafted Demaryius, he's in the same tier as Megatron. Manning is not a first round pick unless you're in a league where passing touchdowns are worth six point. Hmm. Thanks for this feedback! I tend to not really believe in players having a "floor." To me, the floor is the player gets a season-ending injury. But I suppose at that point whatever random QB I can grab off the wire is almost as good as Smith? I'm thinking I don't know enough about the deeper guys to know who has upside. I'll have to do some research.
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Leperflesh posted:Hmm. Thanks for this feedback! That's a terrible opinion. Literally every person can have a season ending injury in week 1 so I guess by your metric everybody is worth the same? I could work through the process of why it's awful but it'd just end up in a multi-paragraph screed. Floor is the baseline production from a player you can reasonably expect, not "absolutely loving worst case scenario if everything that could possibly go wrong does."
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Aug 11, 2014 08:20
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OK, well it's in response to Beer's statement that there's no point drafting a second QB if I have Peyton? Maybe I misunderstood but I figured my second QB's job was to be there when my QB1 can't play. Sure when it comes to comparing two QBs or any other positional where I might concievably start one while the other is healthy and playing (not on bye, not injured) then ceiling/floor matters a lot: I could pick a week where my QB1's matchup is bad but my QB2's matchup is cake and go with the second guy, but only if the second guy's ceiling is higher than the first guy's floor. I get that part. I probably misunderstood. Was there another QB at or later than 13th round that I should have picked up as my QB2 rather than Smith... I guess someone with a higher ceiling?
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Aug 11, 2014 08:42
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He's saying that at no point you will start Alex Smith over Peyton Manning. On Manning's bye you could cut some end-of-bench scrub for a random good matchup QB off the waiver wire. You wasted a roster spot on Smith. Compare this to people who draft two of: Russell Wilson, Colin Kaepernick, Ben Roethlisberger, Jay Cutler, Tony Romo, RG3... Those you would play the matchups. By drafting Smith you're saying "I want to waste a roster spot for weeks 1-3, then drop him in week 5."
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Aug 11, 2014 09:08
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Hmm, OK. Not an angle I'd thought about like that. I'm used to not having such an elite player and needing to rely on a rotation like the one you mentioned. This is only my third year playing fantasy football, though.
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Aug 11, 2014 09:14
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Elite QBs & TEs are such a different beast than the other offensive positions though. You start one and only one, so if you get an elite version, there's no point to having a backup unless you have a massive bench & want to amass trade chips. In a normal league those roster spots are better used on upside RBs or WRs. Not drafting a backup is one of those standard rites of passage.
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Aug 11, 2014 09:28
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Did my big money league auction draft this weekend. This league has been drafting together for 8 years. 12 man standard espn scoring, $200 budget. I think I did pretty well. QB1: Matt Ryan $13 QB2: Ben Roethlisberger $2 RB1: Frank Gore $21 RB2: Toby Gerhart $14 RB3: Ray Rice $15 RB4: Joique Bell $7 RB5: Jeremy Hill $1 WR1: Jordy Nelson $35 WR2: Victor Cruz $20 WR3: Cordarrelle Patterson $16 WR4: Eric Decker $7 WR5: Josh Gordon $2 TE1: Jimmy Graham $40 TE2: Ladarius Green $1 K: Nick Novak $2 DST: Patriots $2 Additionally, this draft featured what is quite possibly the worst draft I have ever seen from someone who's been playing fantasy football for a decade. QB1: Aaron Rodgers $45 QB2: Andrew Luck $24 QB3: Joe Flacco $1 RB1: Matt Forte $59 RB2: Tre Mason $1 RB3: Christine Michael $1 WR1: Antonio Brown $31 WR2: Cecil Shorts $3 WR3: Sammy Watkins $5 TE1: Dennis Pitta $10 TE2: Heath Miller $1 DST1: Seahawks $8 DST2: Panthers $4 DST3: Broncos $4 K1: Matt Prater $2 K2: Shayne Graham $1
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Aug 11, 2014 12:19
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Frustrated posted:Additionally, this draft featured what is quite possibly the worst draft I have ever seen from someone who's been playing fantasy football for a decade. Jesus christ, do you start 2 RBs?
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Aug 11, 2014 12:25
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Frustrated posted:QB1: Aaron Rodgers $45 3 WRs, 3 defenses and 2 kickers? Hell yes
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Aug 11, 2014 18:00
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Spoeank posted:Elite QBs & TEs are such a different beast than the other offensive positions though. You start one and only one, so if you get an elite version, there's no point to having a backup unless you have a massive bench & want to amass trade chips. In a normal league those roster spots are better used on upside RBs or WRs. Not drafting a backup is one of those standard rites of passage. Gotcha. In my league, FLEX is RB/WR/TE. Does that change your opinion re: elite TEs? I think in general a WR or RB produces more points than a TE in my league's scoring, but if I see a second great TE in like round four or so, is it worth jumping on him as a potential FLEX?
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Aug 11, 2014 18:43
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^^ I don't think so. In round four I think a skill position player, particularly a WR, will serve you better than drafting a second TE. Assuming you have Graham, you'd be looking at Gronk/Thomas/Davis, and I have to imagine that a WR there would be a safer pickup. I tried the Graham/Gronk super combo last year and it was...depressing. Just did a 10 team mock, standing scoring, 1 QB/2 RBs/2 WRs/1 TE/1 Flex/def/kicker. Think I like this one the best out of the teams I've mocked so far. Picked #4. Megatron (1.4) Murray (2.17) Gio (3.24) Garcon (4.37) Mathews (5.44) Luck (6.57) Maclin (7.64) Watkins (8.77) Olsen (9.84) Ended up with Bengals D and Crosby as the kicker. Depth picks were Ertz, Hyde, Khiry Robinson, and Wilson backing up Luck. Santheb fucked around with this message at 18:47 on Aug 11, 2014 |
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Aug 11, 2014 18:43
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I won't draft Gronk, period. It won't matter because there's like three people in my league who will fight for him so he'll be gone by early round 2. But yeah I think you're right, probably a 4th-round WR/RB is still better in the flex spot.
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DumbWhiteGuy posted:3 WRs, 3 defenses and 2 kickers? Hell yes Not to mention 12.5% of his budget on backup QBs. I like how this guy rolls. Also, because fantasy football is cruel, I bet you he ends up in the playoffs or something.
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