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TheJoker138 posted:"No, we will not make a movie that people are apparently demanding and would probably pay money to see. gently caress that." That would involve listening to people and we're sure we know what people want. Ant-Man, right. People want Ant-Man?
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If they play it smart, Shazam could appeal to kids in a big way. A family friendly superhero just might be the shot in the arm the superhero genre needs. I'd love if they went for Jeff Smith's take.
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Jul 22, 2014 07:08
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Detective No. 27 posted:If they play it smart, Shazam could appeal to kids in a big way. A family friendly superhero just might be the shot in the arm the superhero genre needs. I'd love if they went for Jeff Smith's take. Except that this is 2014 WB/DC we're talking about here so Billy Batson probably will take up superheroing to repress his terrible childhood of drugs and sexual abuse.
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Jul 22, 2014 07:10
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mind the walrus posted:I'm still sold but the amount of people chanting "this is overrated garbage" is going to be deafening. Isn't this the chanting that we've gotten for every single Marvel film?
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Jul 22, 2014 07:27
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jivjov posted:Isn't this the chanting that we've gotten for every single Marvel film? Yes, because it's mostly true.
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Jul 22, 2014 08:03
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Really all I want from Captain Marvel is for it not to be Man Of Thunder. I know that's probably too much to ask but I can hope.
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Jul 22, 2014 08:32
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For all the bitching WB gets about dragging their heels on a Wonder Woman film, that WW film will most likely be released years before Marvel ever releases a film with a female lead in it.
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Jul 22, 2014 08:41
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HorseRenoir posted:For all the bitching WB gets about dragging their heels on a Wonder Woman film, that WW film will most likely be released years before Marvel ever releases a film with a female lead in it. I'd put the odds about even at this point. And even if DC wins that race, it's loving ridiculous that it's taken this long. Wonder Woman has existed since the thirties, and had a popular 70's tv show, and before the current run of Marvel films she was probably more famous as a character than anyone who appeared in The Avengers. Of the characters DC owns she's probably their most famous one after Batman and Superman, and out of all comics characters before they were featured in movie the only other one with the same amount of recognition was probably Spider-Man. Obviously it's different studios doing different things, but it's slightly ridiculous Iron Man got a movie first. I won't be too surprised if no one ever makes a blockbuster comic film with a female lead, but that's mostly because Hollywood won't spend 100 million on a movie starring a women not named Angelina Jolie.
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Jul 22, 2014 08:53
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WB loses either way for hemming and hawing about how "difficult" a Wonder Woman movie would be and all that about how they have to make sure they "get it right", like Batman and Superman haven't gotten multiple films with wildly different tones over the years. When a Batman movie bombs there's still going to be another one in a decade or so. Marvel's highest-profile female heroes are mostly already in X-Men, there's simply no comparison to a character like Wonder Woman.
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Jul 22, 2014 09:00
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Detective No. 27 posted:I think the Captain Marvel film is going to hinge more on who plays Billy Batson. Will they go with 10 year old Billy or teen Billy? Johnson's Captain Marvel is going to hinge on these things. Dr. Sivana would be a good one, if not Mr. Mind. I have to admire the panache of a supervillain who, upon learning that the Marvel family is out of town, immediately goes outside and just starts shooting cops. That's not even mad science.
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Jul 22, 2014 10:12
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Dr. Sivana and Mr. Mind would be a good pair. You can have Sivana as the frontman and Mr. Mind as a mysterious force in the shadows. I'd absolutely kill for them to keep Mr. Mind's real identity like it was in the original comics but I know they'd make him a space-eating hyperfly or some poo poo.
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Jul 22, 2014 10:56
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TheJoker138 posted:"No, we will not make a movie that people are apparently demanding and would probably pay money to see. gently caress that." People paid money to see Catwoman. Doesn't mean it should have been made.
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Jul 22, 2014 11:34
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They should re-release Catwoman to gauge whether audiences are ready yet for a femal lead in a superhero movie.
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Jul 22, 2014 11:45
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Grendels Dad posted:They should re-release Catwoman to gauge whether audiences are ready yet for a femal lead in a superhero movie. Pretty much, and script writers should be forced to watch it to know what not to do when writing superhero movies with female leads. Hint: just because a movie stars a chick doesn't mean the primary audience is other chicks. Men like superheroes and drive superhero film sales, so its a good idea to not make superheroes films about evil make-up companies, villainous fashion designers or fascist sewing circles.
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Jul 22, 2014 12:00
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Naw man they totally put in some sports scenes for the guys and stuff.
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Jul 22, 2014 12:12
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Irish Joe posted:Pretty much, and script writers should be forced to watch it to know what not to do when writing superhero movies with female leads. Hint: just because a movie stars a chick doesn't mean the primary audience is other chicks. Men like superheroes and drive superhero film sales, so its a good idea to not make superheroes films about evil make-up companies, villainous fashion designers or fascist sewing circles. Yeah. Because everyone knows what we ladies want more than anything in our superhero stories are fashion and make up! Never take the female demographic into account. This is what happens! :bigtran:
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Jul 22, 2014 12:27
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I think it's safe to say that you shouldn't make superhero movies about evil make-up companies no matter what. Unless you are doing an origins movie for Clayface.
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Jul 22, 2014 12:33
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Irish Joe posted:Pretty much, and script writers should be forced to watch it to know what not to do when writing superhero movies with female leads. Hint: just because a movie stars a chick doesn't mean the primary audience is other chicks. Men like superheroes and drive superhero film sales, so its a good idea to not make superheroes films about evil make-up companies, villainous fashion designers or fascist sewing circles. Men can gently caress off, they have like a jillion other franchises catering to their every whim. Give me an angry, feminist hoplite Wonder Woman. Give me a Wonder Woman who goes around spartan kicking Generals and CEOs into orbit and a postfeminist villian who serves an evil overlord who looks like Joss Whedon. Give me a cast and crew that's 90% women, with a soundtrack by Bikini Kill and Bratmobile. Also turn Steve Trevors to Eve Trevors because that would be more interesting anyway. Or I guess we just bring some more dudes in cause you how those women are with their makeup. 
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Jul 22, 2014 12:35
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He's talking about the Catwoman movie specifically in that case.
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Jul 22, 2014 13:15
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Irish Joe posted:People paid money to see Catwoman. Doesn't mean it should have been made. It should have, though. Well, not THAT Catwoman movie, but A Catwoman movie could be great. Also I think Marvel has already won the race between them and DC for a female fronted project because they are doing a 12 issue Netflix series about Jessica Jones, and that's much, much more than DC has in the cards, even if it's not a film. I also think that a Captain Marvel film in phase 3 or 4 is pretty likely. My guess is she gets introduced either in Avengers 2 or Cap' 3 as just Carol Danvers, then we see her get hit by some alien poo poo in Guardians 2 or Avengers 3, and then Captain Marvel movie. It'll be sometime before 2020, I'd bet.
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Luminous Obscurity posted:Men can gently caress off, they have like a jillion other franchises catering to their every whim. Give me an angry, feminist hoplite Wonder Woman. Give me a Wonder Woman who goes around spartan kicking Generals and CEOs into orbit and a postfeminist villian who serves an evil overlord who looks like Joss Whedon. Give me a cast and crew that's 90% women, with a soundtrack by Bikini Kill and Bratmobile. Also turn Steve Trevors to Eve Trevors because that would be more interesting anyway. Or just start burning money.
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I finally got around to watching Man of Steel. It felt like a screed about how horrifying a world where we actually needed superheroes would be, and had some really perverse stuff, like Lois and Superman having a passionate kiss in a ground zero crater amid the swirling ash and dust of a recent genocide. I liked it though, it works really well as a counter-point to people's claims that they want 'realism' and verisimilitude in their superhero stories.
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Irish Joe posted:Pretty much, and script writers should be forced to watch it to know what not to do when writing superhero movies with female leads. Hint: just because a movie stars a chick doesn't mean the primary audience is other chicks. Men like superheroes and drive superhero film sales, so its a good idea to not make superheroes films about evil make-up companies, villainous fashion designers or fascist sewing circles. Haha, what a terribly dumb post.
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Mechafunkzilla posted:I finally got around to watching Man of Steel. It felt like a screed about how horrifying a world where we actually needed superheroes would be, and had some really perverse stuff, like Lois and Superman having a passionate kiss in a ground zero crater amid the swirling ash and dust of a recent genocide. I liked it though, it works really well as a counter-point to people's claims that they want 'realism' and verisimilitude in their superhero stories. This is close to how I feel about it too.
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Jul 22, 2014 16:08
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I liked the dickships.
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Jul 22, 2014 16:11
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I liked that they removed Superman's red underpants while making his whole suit Kryptonian underwear.
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Jul 22, 2014 16:12
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am0kgonzo posted:Or just start burning money. Crushing the patriarchy, now in IMAX. 
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Jul 22, 2014 16:49
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:I liked the dickships. They had to see this, right?
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Jul 22, 2014 18:49
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PriorMarcus posted:They had to see this, right? There's tons of dick and vagina imagery all over Krypton, it has to be intentional. As well it should be, because it's the best part of the movie.
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Jul 22, 2014 18:50
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PriorMarcus posted:They had to see this, right? It took many man-hours to model, so yes.
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:I liked the dickships.
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FlamingLiberal posted:How have I not seen anyone bring this up before It's pretty much the only thing in the movie worth talking about.
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Jul 22, 2014 18:54
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PriorMarcus posted:They had to see this, right? It speaks to the inhumanity of Zod and his ilk. They are surrounded by phallic and yonic imagery, and his top lieutenant is a super hot babe, but the only way they can think to repopulate is by killing people and harvesting DNA from a corpse.
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Jul 22, 2014 19:27
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Whoever conceptualized the sets and design of that sequence was clearly going for Giger but it just ended up as a limp (pun intended) approximation of such. I like my dicks more subtle.
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Jul 22, 2014 19:48
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Colonel Whitey posted:Whoever conceptualized the sets and design of that sequence was clearly going for Giger but it just ended up as a limp (pun intended) approximation of such. I like my dicks more subtle. HR Giger was a lot of things, but 'subtle' wasn't one of them. 
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Jul 22, 2014 19:58
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That's still about 100x more subtle than 12 flying penises
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Jul 22, 2014 20:08
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I can picture Ben Kingsley as a good Dr. Sivana.
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Jul 22, 2014 20:18
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John Boyega is very unsubtly hinting at Black Panther in his future. Will anything come of it? We'll see.
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I can't imagine there'd be any casting for a film that hasn't even been announced or chosen a director yet, but hey, that got me a nice ol' chubby for good ten or fifteen seconds. Who knows? Comic-Con is coming, and it's a magical time.
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BrianWilly posted:I can't imagine there'd be any casting for a film that hasn't even been announced or chosen a director yet, but hey, that got me a nice ol' chubby for good ten or fifteen seconds. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3522772/?ref_=fn_al_tt_7 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_aphEVpBXk&t=539s
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