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Frostwerks posted:this has been probably the best summer action movie block in recent memory tho. apes, xmans, edge of tomorrow, snowpiercer. all good to great. Winter Soldier owned too.
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etalian posted:Winter Soldier owned too. ah yeah forgot about that one
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It wasn't summer, but The Raid 2 was this year.
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Duck and burger posted:Can someone explain why they didn't just jettison everyone in the back? They weren't laboring or anything you normally expect an underclass to do. This question went unanswered and I was not high enough to just go with it. the underclass people have kids all the time and they use those kids to take the place of parts of the train that break not that it makes a whole lot more sense but that is the reason they gave
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Lobok posted:It wasn't summer, but The Raid 2 was this year. drat. now i gotta watch that too
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who maintains the track and structures? you need lube on the gauge-face and friction management on top of rail; due to the scenario youd clearly need a vehicle-mounted applicator, probably a solid-stick, and you'd have to manufacture the product on the train. despite that, wheels need to be retrued (generously say every 1MM miles cuz we assume distributed power and A/PTC optimization because it's the near-future) to be kept in conformal contact with the rail, especially since the rail receives no grinding or milling maintenance. Also assuming an absolute minimum of curving as per shinkansen specs. The track doesn't see heavy traffic, but suffers constant environmental degradation from the snow/thaw/sublimation cycle. Speaking of rail, there are problems with rail-neutral-temperature. Since the snowpiercer uses existing global rail lines (heavy haul, transit and high speed apparently) the RNT is not calibrated to the suddenly freezing global temperatures -- rail breaks in dark-territory would plague the system and the system is apparently (see the iceflow track obstructions) entirely in dark-territory. Luckily, the rarity of traffic probably spares the rail from rolling contact fatigue, weld batter, plastic flow, gauge-face collapse. But then cold weather welds would of course introduce long-wave corrugations, adding to the already huge ductile stress of the rail. As for vehicle dynamics. Outside footage of the snowpiercer shows massive carbody hunting, for a high speed line, but indoor footage shows zero lateral perturbations. Clearly the trucks and suspension systems are absorbing 100% of the implied forces. Since the snowpiercer isnt suspended by high-tech magnetic bearings (see the undercarriage shots), its fair to say that the springs and wedges of the suspension system require constant maintenance which they don't get.
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loving trains
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Buce posted:who maintains the track and structures? you need lube on the gauge-face and friction management on top of rail; due to the scenario youd clearly need a vehicle-mounted applicator, probably a solid-stick, and you'd have to manufacture the product on the train. despite that, wheels need to be retrued (generously say every 1MM miles cuz we assume distributed power and A/PTC optimization because it's the near-future) to be kept in conformal contact with the rail, especially since the rail receives no grinding or milling maintenance. Also assuming an absolute minimum of curving as per shinkansen specs. the poor people's babies fix all that stuff too, probably
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they were roaches bc roaches can survive the end of the world is a trope
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creepy colon being probated is an atrocity
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Kyrie eleison posted:hey i noticed you made the same joke twice in this thread well u see, ths pointed out that im bi so i changed da joke to reflect my. biness. a joke remix
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Earwicker posted:the poor people's babies fix all that stuff too, probably you used to be a mod and maybe still are
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the film had zero nuance about its themes and i love it for that.
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i mean if you can't see how using a train as a symbol of classism is brilliant even if its loud and unsubtle as gently caress, you just don't like good entertainment
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like just go in watching this movie expecting a loud thematic action movie, which most action movies are. i think people are just making a point out of talking about the themes in this movie more than other action films is they are just not used to a non fascist action movie.
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Duck and burger posted:Can someone explain why they didn't just jettison everyone in the back? They weren't laboring or anything you normally expect an underclass to do. This question went unanswered and I was not high enough to just go with it. wilford didn't actually hate the guys in the back, hence why he was buddies with amputate man. he thought humanity could only function with classism, because he saw the whole thing as some sort of mechanical system like his train. if you just jettison everyone out of the back, he would just form classism between the rich dudes. that is why he let people on the train for free in the first place, to create the system. also the idea was to not just cull the poor people with the staged revolutions, but some of the rich dudes too. he was all about maintaining balance and a perfect level of fear and hate on both sides. FADEtoBLACK posted:So was the movie implying the guy at the head of the train basically created the freezing so he could be head of a constantly moving train in the post apocalypse? nope. think of him like one of those crazy libertarians that runs a business and talks about conspiracy theories you sometimes hear about on the news or something. wilford is one of those guys, he just ended up being right about his conspiracy theory.
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