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I've never played any of the Mother/Earthbound games, but I've read through the Earthbound LP a handful of times now. This one is much more sad. 
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   So last time we visited our wife's grave and watched our father-in-law yell at our son until he ran away in tears. Now we need to team up with said father-in-law to find our other missing son. Who's ready for some more lighthearted adventures?   North of the cemetery is this castle we can't access. After leaving the cemetery, we get some new music.    Alec's house? Here, I'll mark it on your map for you. There you go. I've marked Alec's house for you. It's a bit of a walk to there, and we're going solo this time.  There's an Anti-Paralysis and Antidote here now, though I don't bother with either.  At least Lucas is still fine.  If not exactly in the best spirits right now. Anyway, time to get our weapon.   I made it into a weapon. The only thing that can pierce the tough hide of a Drago is a Drago's fang. There's no other weapon that can beat a Drago. Despite constantly being referred to as a weapon, it's actually an item to be used in battle. I realize this might be tough for you to accept, but you should take it. I think Lighter had something to give you, too.Lighter's over at the beach, so let's visit him.   Mr. Flint. Think you could go say hi to him?  But if you start acting like that, what'll happen to the two kiddos who rely on you? You know what's best. It's tough being a man. You'd better go after him, and fast... I'll let you borrow this. Don't worry. I washed it. It's clean. This headgear boosts offense but with a lower defense boost. I wonder if it's intentional that the further you go on in this chapter, the more equipment you get that prioritizes offense while hurting other stats. It's almost thematic in that Flint's giving in to his anger.  There's also some new character here.   Nothing too major though.   Anyway, there's new music and a lot new enemies to encounter on the path to Alec's house.   First is the Praying Mantis.  At a whopping 34HP, this guy is an absolute joke that goes down in one round easily.    Next up is the Greedy Mouse, who's slightly less horrible.  It'll do physical attacks and eat food to recover a laughably marginal amount of HP. It has a 20% chance to drop Peculiar Cheese, which Flint loves.  Baked Yammonsters and Mighty Bitey Snakes are still around, and the Flying Mouse foe from Lighter's house is now a regular enemy as well.  Up at Lighter's old house, you'll sometimes meet these guys.  You have to walk to them rather than dash, since dashing causes them to disappear.   Soot Dumplings have 36HP, 99 defense and will run away after three rounds.  The trick is to be really, really good with combos.  Unfortunately, I'm not. The reward is a ridiculous 1000EXP, which is overkill anyway and far from necessary.  There's one more enemy that I didn't encounter due to it being so rare, the Beanling. It apparently uses PKI Fire Alpha, but otherwise is pretty simple and yields a still-crazy 538EXP.  Up at the area where we found Hinawa's dress, there are yet more new enemies.  Spud Bugs aren't too bad by themselves, but they tend to show up in groups.   They also like to use Lifeup Alpha to heal a decent amount.  This rock is also an enemy.   Crag Lizards are as scary as they look.  It's a good idea to use Flint's buffs against these guys before whittling them down (or gambling on Power Smash).  There's another unique enemy down where the trees were down earlier.  Walking Bushies aren't too tough, but it's better to guard rather than attack.  That's because they're pretty nice guys that will heal you for free.    Thank you!  This is the last new enemy for now.  These guys aren't anything special.   They'll just charge up attacks for decent damage, nothing major.  There's also more Moles, but no big deal.  Another defense-boosting bracelet.  You might accidentally step on them, so please don't continue in that direction. There's two paths at the end, with the left one blocked off by ants. Flint shares his son's fondness for ants, so to the right path it is, straight to Alec's farm!     (Not wasting food is a commendable thing. But that does make things a little harder for me.)   Alright, let's check up on Alec.    Traveling through the forest has become quite dangerous indeed... What were those extremely bizarre flying mouse things with bug wings? It seems one bit me right on the head, too. I've healed up perfectly, though... No, no, no, no, no! None of that matters! I know where Claus might have gone! Let's head there right now!  And so Alec joins, albeit as a minor NPC. And with him comes new overworld music.   When I said "froggy intelligence" just now, you thought, "Whaaaat?" didn't you? Frogs work for my friend, as messengers. See that lizard there, for instance? We just need to go in the direction it tells us. Alright, let's go over and-  You have doubts about this friend of mine, don't you? They've lived isolated away from civilization for a very, very long time. I don't think Flint cares, Alec.   'Round and 'round we go! Where I stop...soon you will know!  Just follow the trail of arrow lizards and-  I see you're not walking as fast now. It seems the word "Magypsies" has made you curious. The Magypsies have mysterious powers, and have been protecting something here for a very long time. I have absolutely no idea how old they are. That explanation didn't explain much, did it? Every one of them. That's just how they are. They ARE good-natured, though.  Eventually, the lizards lead us to these two frogs. One is the wrong frog, while the other...  ...is the right frog.  This creates a path for us to cross.    Oh, guess what it's time for?   (Sparrow Advice! You know how enemies sometimes leave nice items behind after you fight them? If your inventory is full when you find an item you want, you'll have to either give it up or throw another item away. Which is why it's a good idea to always eat any food items you have as you go along. Doing this will help keep your inventory from getting full. This little trick is especially useful for when you're hiking through forests and mountains. Well, now to end this with a sparrow-like...Achirpa chirp chirp!)So the game's telling you to use your drat items already you hoarder. Though I forget to use my attack items.  Sure, why not?   Milk recovers more than any other food item we've seen so far. The trick is that it spoils quickly in-game, so it's good to drink it as soon as you get it.  Of course, it's rather pointless since there's a hot spring nearby.  (The Magypsies are having their monthly tea party today. Can't you hear those indescribably deep yet shrill voices coming from Aeolia's house? Chirp chirp!)For once, a sparrow that doesn't spout game mechanics at us!  This is the house of a Magypsie. Fans of the series may recognize this house design to be pretty similar to ones of Mother 1's Magicant. So, ready to meet the Magypsies?  This game may be depressing at times, but it's certainly still a Mother game at heart. Next time, we'll get to know the Magypsies and hopefully find Claus as we close out the chapter! Mega64 fucked around with this message at 00:34 on Aug 21, 2014 |
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Aug 17, 2014 21:39
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The break points you choose for the updates are just about perfect.
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Mega64 posted:
Ah ha, that would explain why I never ended up fighting one of these- in a game that allows you the option of running as opposed to walking, why wouldn't you dash everywhere? Also, let me be the first to say that, for the most part, the Magypsies are pretty fantastic. Stereotypes they may be, but I still like them 
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Aug 17, 2014 21:58
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Oh magical race of cross dresser 
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Aug 17, 2014 22:09
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For a moment I was afraid that they were mr Saturns. I hate those guys.
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Aug 18, 2014 08:21
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Magical transvestites, yep its a 'japanese' game alright.
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Darth TNT posted:For a moment I was afraid that they were mr Saturns. I hate those guys. 
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Aug 18, 2014 10:40
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Mega64 posted:
It's stuff like this that really makes me love this series.
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Aug 18, 2014 17:41
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Darth TNT posted:For a moment I was afraid that they were mr Saturns. I hate those guys. You, sir, have no soul. Boing!
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Aug 18, 2014 17:45
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Mega64 posted:Milk recovers more than any other food item we've seen so far. The trick is that it spoils quickly in-game, so it's good to drink it as soon as you get it. There's another trick to this. Waiting even longer turns Rotten Milk into Yogurt, which heals the same amount as the Fresh Milk. I don't know why, but I really like that Walking Bushie enemy. I guess it's things like that which makes this series
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Aug 18, 2014 18:20
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Loving the LP so far. I beat the game years ago and haven't touched it since, so this really takes me back. There's so many little touches I didn't notice the first time through.
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Aug 18, 2014 18:38
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Needs a bigger text boss so you can add BOING.
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Aug 18, 2014 20:37
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RelentlessImp posted:Needs a bigger text boss so you can add BOING.
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Aug 18, 2014 20:56
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I can almost guarantee I have something stashed in the old Earthbound folder for that. I'll look after I'm done at work. At any rate, I always liked the bushes. They're just so polite in addition to friendly. It's something nice to see after what Flint just went through.
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Darth TNT posted:For a moment I was afraid that they were mr Saturns. I hate those guys. What the hell is this?! Hopefully these New Age Retro Hippies can teach Flint some new skills, poor guy is gonna need a little bit more than a 2x4!
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I love Alec's attempt to explain everything to Flint, trying to convince himself Flint's... acting more normal.
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Explosionface posted:I can almost guarantee I have something stashed in the old Earthbound folder for that. I'll look after I'm done at work.  The timing could be better, but that's an easy fix. Goddamn that thread was fun. Sorry for all the Mr. Saturn derailment, Mega. I'll be good now.
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Glazius posted:I love Alec's attempt to explain everything to Flint, trying to convince himself Flint's... acting more normal. I never thought of it like that. It makes so much sense. "So, Flint, I notice you're not giving in and planning on doing something rash. Yep, those clenched fists and that furious scowl are the hallmarks of an even-tempered demeanor."
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Dooky Dingo posted:I miss LeaveMyWife. Well hopefully he'll be back in January.
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Dooky Dingo posted:I miss LeaveMyWife.
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Endorph posted:What will we do without tranny jokes, weird rants about how women are like this and men are like this, and vehicular manslaughter. This sounds like a long, trainwreck of a story and I want the details.
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Ometeotl posted:This sounds like a long, trainwreck of a story and I want the details. End of story.
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Ometeotl posted:This sounds like a long, trainwreck of a story and I want the details. Endorph posted:He made some (IMO) bad LPs with some really weird moments and then he ended his Live a Live LP by saying he killed a woman in a car accident and would be busy with the ensuing legal stuff. Umm... so what happens in January? Gets released from jail?
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Whoa, I think we may have taken a turn into bad taste somewhere in the last half-dozen posts.  Not to mention Endorph has phrased that explanation to accentuate the negative pretty severely.Leave's parole hearing is up really soon, so yeah. He should be back relatively shortly. This isn't the Earthbound thread though. So... What's the story with Mega's new avatar? Oh, and are monster entries a thing in Mother 3? Yapping Eevee fucked around with this message at 05:36 on Aug 19, 2014 |
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Aug 19, 2014 05:33
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Yapping Eevee posted:Oh, and are monster entries a thing in Mother 3? They are; and if I recall correctly, Mega should be picking up the item that will let him view them in…two or three updates, I'd say.
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frozentreasure posted:They are; and if I recall correctly, Mega should be picking up the item that will let him view them in…two or three updates, I'd say. Three more, yeah. I just hit up the site he's apparently using for story break markers, and it's in scene 7 somewhere and we just hit the very beginning of scene 5. The Battle Memory was such a nice touch for the fan-translators to add in. I've spent my last playthrough trying to get as many "back" sprites as I can.
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Cool to hear LeaveMyWife may be back soon.Yapping Eevee posted:So... What's the story with Mega's new avatar? I was tired of my last avatar since I stopped playing FF14, so I've been wanting to change it awhile. Then they started allowing 100KB, so I started to brainstorm on what I could do with that, and the result...was this. Took awhile, but I like how it turned out. To get back on topic, I plan to have the last part of Chapter 1 up today.
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Mega64 posted:I was tired of my last avatar since I stopped playing FF14, so I've been wanting to change it awhile. Then they started allowing 100KB, so I started to brainstorm on what I could do with that, and the result...was this. Took awhile, but I like how it turned out. Maybe I'm just too drunk but it looks like mario is rolling to the left but the background is moving as if he were rolling to the right. It is very disconcerting.
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Neruz posted:Maybe I'm just too drunk but it looks like mario is rolling to the left but the background is moving as if he were rolling to the right. It is very disconcerting. The other way looked weirder since it made Mario look like he was walking backwards. Of course, the original plan was to have the background rotate the other way while scrolling until I decided  Explosionface posted:
Hahaha, good stuff as always.
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 Last time, Flint rushed from his wife's grave to team up with his father-in-law to find his missing son. On the way, he beat up some stone lizards, got healed by a walking bush, was guided by arrow lizards, and ended up in a mysterious house where he encountered the powerful Magypsies. So what kind of wonderous creatures are they?    You simply MUST have some of this cake!Despite their colorful appearances, they aren't human and apparently are genderless, at least according to Alec, who has befriended the Magypsies.   My, my, who are these two? Don't be rude! Ionia, introduce us.   Of course. Where are my manners? This is my good friend, Alec. And who's this with you? Now, let's get you all properly introduced to us, the Magypsies. You're in luck, we're having a party today. Nearly all of us are here. First we have Aeolia, then there's Doria, Phyrgia, Lydia, and that one over there is Mixolydia. The only one not here is Locria. You can call me Ionia. ...Hmm? You can't remember all that? Of course not. That's why I just introduced you, darling. We'll get to know the Magypsies more later on in our journies. If you're curious though, here's the Magypsy sprites matches with names. Aeolia Doria Ionia Lydia Mixolydia Phyrgia Do you know where he might've went? Oh, you mean that rambunctious little squirt from a little while ago? Then I suppose this Flint fellow is his father. Hmmm... So, what about Claus? Where is he? Oh, he took off. He was in a great hurry, mentioning something about avenging his mother. I was feeling generous at the time, I doubt he'll be able to use it very easily, though. Though some of the animals we've encountered have used PSI, this is the first instance in-game of PSI being usable by humans. For those new to the series, PSI is the Mother series' version of magic, using powerful psychic abilities to attack or debuff enemies, or to heal/buff allise. Many of these abilities are learned by leveling up, though some are learned from plot stuff, and this game's no exception.  What if something happens to him?! Oh, get over yourselves. You poor things barely live a hundred years, if that! That's a blink of an eye to us Magypsies. Why would anyone bother to care about such short lives? Humans worry about such short lives. Isn't that right, Alecy-poo? I understand how you feel. I really do. The boy headed for the Drago Plateau. Quite rambunctious, I might add. Barely seemed concerned about his own short little life. If you go now, you just might catch him in time.   No time to join the tea party. We've got to move!  The quickest way to get to the Drago Plateau is through the cave behind this house. Claus probably went through the cave, too. But you're not gonna get very far being as tense as you are. What you need to do is smile. Uh, sure.  Considering how Flint handled the death of his wife, this is probably as good as you're going to get, Alec.  There's also an old man in the hot spring now, though I don't think he actually does anything.  Our next destination is this cave.   It's a cave with limited vision (though if you look closely, you can see an outline for the dungeon), but don't worry, because Alec is here to guide us.  I've been through here many a time. Just leave it to me. You gotta relax! I'll skip a lot of the generic instructions Alec gives you, but generally he's a good, if verbose, guide.  And already my milk has spoiled. Though forums user Dr. Fetus says waiting even longer would turn the Rotten Milk into Yogurt, which heals just as much as Fresh Milk. I wasn't aware of this while playing though and threw it out.  There are enemies and items in this cave, but nothing we haven't seen before.  There should be a hole around here. Find it, and then jump right down it! Done, and done.  That was my Magypsy impression. Did you like it? Relax, relax.  Yep, Mother 3 still has fart jokes.   I've been so forgetful lately. Which way was it again...? Was it north? ...Uh, north it is.  ...Did you not notice it? I said we have to "vined the vine". You know, instead of "find"?Now I see why Flint stayed home when his family went up to Alec's.  Looks like we should've gone west at that last fork in the path.Welp.   Anyway, we find the vine and continue.     Now we just need to head upward and climb up some vines. The Mother 3 Handbook summarizes it best: "While there may be enemies waiting to ambush you here, Alec's humor will undoubtedly be your biggest threat."  It's a short dungeon though, and eventually we make it up on the mountain. Though next is another cave.   A saving frog, and...  More pigmasks!  Again, they run away.   This machine is also ripped straight from Earthbound.    And of course they get away yet again.   This screen's pretty big with lots of new enemies.   This thing has high defense, so you either want to boost Offense first or just gamble on a Power Smash.   I do the latter because it's more fun.     The only notable thing about these guys is their 70% drop rate for Beef Jerky, which recovers a hefty 60HP. If you're somehow low on healing items, these guys are a good way to grind back up for them. I end up skipping a lot of treasure here because I was so full, but I ended up skipping another weapon upgrade for Flint, the Fresh Lumber. It's a nice 16 point Offense boost and is easily the second-highest offense this chapter, but I end up not needing it.  The next screen has another notable item.   This belongs to Claus! And that was a baby Drago just now. Claus MUST be around here somewhere!  Well, it's progress.    Trees are the most annoying regular enemies out here.   First, they'll summon help to join them.  They'll also reduce your offense.   Finally, when they die, they'll explode and do mortal damage much like Earthbound's tree enemies. Though once again the rolling HP system saves us here, as ending the battle before our HP depletes will leave us with the amount we were at when combat ended.   Alec has three of these herbs he'll use if Flint's at low HP. Otherwise, he may as well not be around for battle.  Not worth the effort.  This one appears to be broken, however.  I just run from these guys because they aren't worth it.  (Up ahead is Drago territory. Please be careful if you're heading further in. Now, to end this with a sparrow-like... chirp chirp-chirp!)This is game speak for HEY THE BIG BOSS BATTLE OF THIS CHAPTER IS COMING UP BE PREPARED YOU FOOL.   Claus! We're here to rescue you! Where are you?!   I have a bad feeling about this...! So the normally peaceful Dragos? Yeah, I think the whole "being turned into a cyborg dragon creature" thing may have overrided this one's peacefulness.     Mecha-Drago is the final boss of this chapter. It's not too bad as long as you paid attention to the dialogue before-hand, and if you didn't, why are you playing these games anyway?  First priority is to boost defenses, since this is the final boss and all.   This creature can reduce offense, meaning you have to use the Offense Up ability just to recover. Think of it at stat up/downs from Pokemon, where you can reduce/boost stats by three "levels", though I think for Flint's offense-booster it only goes up to +1 level.  This fight will be impossible unless you take all the text beaten into you earlier into account. Nothing can pierce a Drago's hide besides one of its own fangs...   So by stabbing it with its fang, we reduce its defenses and can actually start wailing on it!  Not that it's gonna be that easy, with the Mecha-Drago's good offense and its incredibly beefy 724HP. It also has nearly as much defense as a lizard made of rock (though not nearly as much as a ball of soot).  My plan for this one? Rely on Power Smash, of course!  Even with skipping a good weapon upgrade, Flint does a third of this creature's HP with his Power Smash. I just need to be patient and not unlucky.    Mecha-Drago also has a powerful fire breath attack.  Those ten slabs of Beef Jerky help quite a bit in this battle, of course.    When Mecha-Drago dies, it'll use one last attack that's "guaranteed" to kill you. In reality, it's a semi-dick move that makes sure you've actually been keeping your HP high, since as long as you have 40ish HP left you'll still live.   I say 40ish because the Mecha-Drago has a long death animation.   Even got a nice batch of EXP out of it!     Flint! Don't do it! That won't solve anything!   And...that's it.            END CHAPTER 1
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Shoehead posted:That Drago is missing it's fang Yeah, if there's one thing this game is really good at, it's attention to detail. It takes around 5 minutes for the Fresh Milk to turn into Rotten Milk, but around 30 minutes for it to turn into Yogurt, so it wouldn't have helped with the enemies, but it would've turned into Yogurt just in time for the boss fight.
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That last scene had a lot of complex ideas in it. On one hand, Alec is trying his hardest to keep Flint from going completely berserk. I can't help but imagine the whole time starting with the Magypsies wasting his time muttering under his breath, saying horrible, violent things. And every time Alec breaks in with a joke is just to stop Flint from continuing "and then I'll take the fang and *mutter mutter* until it breaks off. Then I'll break off its other fang and *mutter mutter* until..." Then I remember Alec was her father, and... I just don't know what to think. He's obviously a great man, much greater than I could ever hope to be. Then I think of The Killing Joke. All you need is one bad day.
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Mega64 posted:Titanies are enemies all the way back from the first game in the series, Mother/EB Zero. I was surprised to see them make a comeback when I first played Mother 3. Exploding trees are in all the games, though. They're especially bad in the first game, where you don't have a rolling HP meter to save you.
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Alec trying to imitate the Magypsies reminds me a little of my own grandfather, who is growing slightly racist in his senility...
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Mega64 posted:
Is this the right theme? For some reason I remember the Crag Lizard's music to be a bit different from this.
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