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Hieronymous Alloy
Jan 30, 2009


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Morbid Hound
Chandler actually wrote a critical essay on detective fiction:

http://www.en.utexas.edu/amlit/amlitprivate/scans/chandlerart.html

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Hieronymous Alloy
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Morbid Hound

Borneo Jimmy posted:

So what are your guys' thoughts on Mickey Spillane?

I've only read one ( The By Pass Control) and it was amazingly pulpy even by my standards.

Hieronymous Alloy
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Morbid Hound
John d. Mcdonald also wrote some decent sf in his early career.

You're not alone in loving the way the reader gets to watch Florida change over the McGee books. There's a similar effect if you read the Nero Wolfe detective books in sequential order, and watch Manhattan change over forty odd years, from the depression through to the seventies.

Hieronymous Alloy
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Morbid Hound

Professor Shark posted:

I started reading MacDonald's Travis McGee stuff... it certainly feels like something that heavily influenced Stephen King, but I'm not feeling as much love for McGee as I did Marlowe :(

Read them in chronological order if you can. You get to watch Florida change over time.

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I've been really enjoying the Easy Rawlins series. Black protagonist is a really interesting way to reinvent period noir (esp. Given the recent news articles that Sam Spade may have been based on a black P.I., etc.)

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Hieronymous Alloy
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anilEhilated posted:

Really? I loved the first one, snoozed through the second and didn't bother finishing the third; I thought Mosley stopped writing a story and went full on social critique by that point.
e: Might be because I'm not American and thus rather disconnected from that part of history, but as detective stories, the second and third book just didn't do it for me.

I could see that. I agree the first is the strongest. What I really liked is the way having a black P.I. inverts all the classic noir tropes -- hard-boiled detective, crooked cops who give the P.I. a beat down, so forth. So it's ringing the changes on classic tropes through a fresh lens. Plus, you get to see Los Angeles change over time, too, and that's a feature I really like in P.I. novels -- they're always half about setting and watching that setting change over the course of the series ( Manhattan for the Nero Wolfe books, Florida for Travis McGee,. etc.)

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