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LP0 ON FIRE
Jan 25, 2006

beep boop


you can get a reliable seagate STBV4000100 4TB hard drive for about 150 US dollars

imagine how many unix programs you could write and store on this thing? you could drive yourself absolutely batty over the obsession of how many unix programs you could store on it, and no matter how hard you tried you'd probably only reach 2% capacity before you died. that by itself is terafying to me

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A Wheezy Steampunk
Jul 16, 2006

High School Grads Eligible!


cat /dev/zero > /zero.txt :twisted:

text editor
Jan 8, 2007



yeah I'm pretty happy about it but mostly because i hoard flac (i have golden ears)

A Wheezy Steampunk
Jul 16, 2006

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text editor posted:

yeah I'm pretty happy about it but mostly because i hoard flac (i have golden ears)

flac is just mp3 with animal porn added to pad out the file

enotnert
Jun 10, 2005

Only women bleed

I need them to drop a little lower. . . I lucked up when I built my last NAS and ordered 5 3tb disks a day before that tsunami destroyed the factories.

The day I bought them $119, the next day $250

A Wheezy Steampunk
Jul 16, 2006

High School Grads Eligible!


i use western digital "red" drives for all my nas kneeds

LP0 ON FIRE
Jan 25, 2006

beep boop


text editor posted:

yeah I'm pretty happy about it but mostly because i hoard flac (i have golden ears)

you should just use Apple Lossless Encoder (m4a)

plus, it's compatible to all your iOS devices

reading
Jul 27, 2013


Yes but if it's SSD or uses a journaling file system you might not be able to securly delete files??????

LP0 ON FIRE
Jan 25, 2006

beep boop


enotnert posted:

I need them to drop a little lower. . . I lucked up when I built my last NAS and ordered 5 3tb disks a day before that tsunami destroyed the factories.

The day I bought them $119, the next day $250

you can actually see the shockwaves of price per megabyte on this chart: http://www.jcmit.com/diskprice.htm

actually go back to 2011 and you can see the price is finally improving again

SO DEMANDING
Dec 27, 2003



enotnert posted:

I need them to drop a little lower. . . I lucked up when I built my last NAS and ordered 5 3tb disks a day before that tsunami destroyed the factories.

The day I bought them $119, the next day $250

yeah that was fun, i got a 2TB drive for around $80 and in just a few months the same drive was going for nearly double in price. total pain in the rear end, i was CJing for a small town then and we couldn't get any hard drives (because anywhere we could order from was out of stock or extra super expensive and we were extra super poor/cheap lol)

RAM prices are all hosed up now (or maybe just back to normal???) 2 years ago i got 8GB for i think just under $40, now its a struggle to find that for under $70. i mean yeah thats still affordable but goddrat was memory cheap for a while

z0rlandi viSSer
Nov 5, 2013



text editor posted:

yeah I'm pretty happy about it but mostly because i hoard flac (i have golden ears)

lol yeah same. I've been on a trip for a feww months without access to my flacs so i've spent like 500 in the itunes store for apple files for my iphone and i feel like a poor

PuTTY riot
Nov 16, 2002


remember when all the hard drives were rly expensive cause of some flooding in asia?

PissWhisk
Oct 12, 2012

quackers

i could store my entire JPEG / TIFF photo collection on that baby :wth:

Alereon
Feb 6, 2004

Dehumanize yourself and face to Trumpshed

College Slice

i think its kind of cool that hard drives are air tight and filled with helium now

Farmer Crack-Ass
Jan 2, 2001

~this is me posting irl~


Alereon posted:

i think its kind of cool that hard drives are air tight and filled with helium now

i thought that was just one model from one manufacturer in order to reach 6tb


i think some other manufacturer announced they were doing 6tb without helium real soon

MrMoo
Sep 14, 2000



Newegg this week is selling 6TB Reds for $299.

Perplx
Jun 26, 2004


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Lipstick Apathy

that's a nice poverty 4tb you have there

Alereon
Feb 6, 2004

Dehumanize yourself and face to Trumpshed

College Slice

every manufacturer has some gimmick to get to 6tb, i just think hitachis helium gimmick is coolest. this anandtech article is p. good. hitachi uses helium to cram seven 860gb platters into a drive, wd cuts rpm down to 5400 to cheaply cram 1.2tb on a platter and puts five of them in, seagate moved to a weird form factor to cram in a sixth 1tb platter.

e: 2.5" drives are faster/lower-power/more efficient for a given volume though. im surprised no one is making GBS threads out 4200rpm 2.5"x12.5mm NAS drives

Alereon fucked around with this message at 17:24 on Jul 25, 2014

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005


holy shit this os has cinepak?!?!?




Alereon posted:

every manufacturer has some gimmick to get to 6tb, i just think hitachis helium gimmick is coolest. this anandtech article is p. good. hitachi uses helium to cram seven 860gb platters into a drive, wd cuts rpm down to 5400 to cheaply cram 1.2tb on a platter and puts five of them in, seagate moved to a weird form factor to cram in a sixth 1tb platter.

e: 2.5" drives are faster/lower-power/more efficient for a given volume though. im surprised no one is making GBS threads out 4200rpm 2.5"x12.5mm NAS drives

isnt hitachi WD now anyway

or actually arent they supposed to be toshiba?

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005


holy shit this os has cinepak?!?!?




also seagate is garbage i had to stop buying them because they would literally all fail on me within like 4 months

computer parts
Nov 18, 2010

PLEASE CLAP

honestly i don't have much more than 1tb of data so the fact that SSDs are getting fairly cheap excites me more

NyetscapeNavigator
Sep 22, 2003



text editor posted:

(i have golden ears)

I have special eyes

Asymmetric POSTer
Aug 17, 2005



Alereon posted:

every manufacturer has some gimmick to get to 6tb, i just think hitachis helium gimmick is coolest. this anandtech article is p. good.

why is the consumer/soho nas market increasing? do people still meticulosity maintain large libraries of linuxios that they want on demand at any time

maybe it's just because as ive gotten older my add barely allows me to sit through a 2 hour movie, i just can't be bothered to watch poo poo more than once if it isn't really good, and there's enough on netflix and

:effort:

text editor
Jan 8, 2007



Tora Tora Torrents posted:

I have special eyes

technology is catching up with u too http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultra_high_definition_television

Alereon
Feb 6, 2004

Dehumanize yourself and face to Trumpshed

College Slice

computer parts posted:

honestly i don't have much more than 1tb of data so the fact that SSDs are getting fairly cheap excites me more
yeah i got a 1tb samsung 840 evo when they were on sale and not having to worry about whether i want things to go on the fast drive or the big drive is great

text editor
Jan 8, 2007



mishaq posted:

why is the consumer/soho nas market increasing? do people still meticulosity maintain large libraries of linuxios that they want on demand at any time

maybe it's just because as ive gotten older my add barely allows me to sit through a 2 hour movie, i just can't be bothered to watch poo poo more than once if it isn't really good, and there's enough on netflix and

:effort:

i'm gonna blame ceph, gluster, and poor analytics done by hd manufacturers because idk what the deal is either


alt theory - HDD race to stave off obsolescence

A Wheezy Steampunk
Jul 16, 2006

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do hybrid drives work well or is it a gimmick? it seems like that would be the best solution, to let the computer handle what goes on the fast drive and what goes on the big drive

text editor
Jan 8, 2007



gimmick

Alereon
Feb 6, 2004

Dehumanize yourself and face to Trumpshed

College Slice

mishaq posted:

why is the consumer/soho nas market increasing? do people still meticulosity maintain large libraries of linuxios that they want on demand at any time

maybe it's just because as ive gotten older my add barely allows me to sit through a 2 hour movie, i just can't be bothered to watch poo poo more than once if it isn't really good, and there's enough on netflix and

:effort:
im pretty sure this is internet caps. back before comcast stopped enforcing caps my house had to do poo poo like designating a person to torrent particular shows we all watched and put them on a network share because streaming the daily show in hd adds up fast as gently caress. now i dont give a gently caress about keeping media or big files because i can always stream or at worst download again in 2 minutes

A Wheezy Steampunk
Jul 16, 2006

High School Grads Eligible!


Alereon posted:

im pretty sure this is internet caps. back before comcast stopped enforcing caps my house had to do poo poo like designating a person to torrent particular shows we all watched and put them on a network share because streaming the daily show in hd adds up fast as gently caress. now i dont give a gently caress about keeping media or big files because i can always stream or at worst download again in 2 minutes

and netflix keeps removing things

LP0 ON FIRE
Jan 25, 2006

beep boop


A Wheezy Steampunk posted:

do hybrid drives work well or is it a gimmick? it seems like that would be the best solution, to let the computer handle what goes on the fast drive and what goes on the big drive



wha? i heard that they are basically as fast as SSD's in the end

graph
Nov 22, 2006

aaag peanuts



LP0 ON FIRE posted:

wha? i heard that they are basically as fast as SSD's in the end

we have two fusion sans they're loving incredible

graph
Nov 22, 2006

aaag peanuts



i was in ~a webinar~ and a company is putting out a product this year that will have iops over a million, lol

LP0 ON FIRE
Jan 25, 2006

beep boop


graph posted:

we have two fusion sans they're loving incredible

how are they connected and are they "home made"?

text editor
Jan 8, 2007



LP0 ON FIRE posted:

wha? i heard that they are basically as fast as SSD's in the end

SSD caching is cool but hybrid drives are a gimmick, unless you are desparately short on sata ports i guess

Chumbawumba4ever97
Dec 31, 2000

by Fluffdaddy


LP0 ON FIRE posted:

you can get a reliable seagate STBV4000100 4TB hard drive for about 150 US dollars

amazon has em for $129.99

http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Expansion-Desktop-External-STBV4000100/dp/B00BFFQN3M

LP0 ON FIRE
Jan 25, 2006

beep boop


text editor posted:

SSD caching is cool but hybrid drives are a gimmick, unless you are desparately short on sata ports i guess

i wouldn't go as far as calling it a gimmick since fusion drives are still way faster than regular HD's

graph
Nov 22, 2006

aaag peanuts



LP0 ON FIRE posted:

how are they connected and are they "home made"?

iscsi and lol no they each cost about as much as a midrange luxury vehicle

e: going from ~190iops to over 4000 was fuckshitdamn.gif irl

LP0 ON FIRE
Jan 25, 2006

beep boop



ah that's sweet. i'm also thinking about a mirrored raid configuration. it would be amazing to do that with two 4TB's

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Silver Alicorn
Mar 30, 2008

The Game is Never Over


alley oop

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