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Zesty
Jan 17, 2012

The Great Twist
This was the sign-up thread. The main game can be found here.

Gauging interest with a recruitment thread.

Note: Forum Platinum Upgrade is required to play.

Everyone gets a power role. The number of abilities and rules are extensive. This game is not for the most casual of players. Player slots will be added if interest exceeds 14 players, but there will be 2 extra slots for backup players in case of inactives. Won't go too far past 20 players. I may add roles to balance the game if more than 14 people sign up. I've run this type of game on another forum several times with 20+ players each time, so I'm not concerned with my ability to deal with all the actions that happen every night phase.

All roles are separated into groups. There will be a list of possible group slots that players will fill. They will be assigned a random role from that group. For instance, in a 14 player game, the role list could look like this:

Player Slots (14 Players):

~Mafia
-Godfather
-Support
-Deception

~Townies
-Government
-Investigative
-Investigative
-Investigative
-Killing
-Disruption
-Protective
-Protective

~Neutral
-Killing
-Evil
-Benign

This allows for duplicate roles (in Investigative and Protective in this example) This player slot list will be available at the start of the game.


~~Mafia Groups~~

--Godfather
-Godfather: Always appears good-aligned to investigative roles. Night invulnerability.

--Deception
-Blackmailer: Target is unable to do anything but vote during the next day phase.
-Beguiler: Target is hit by whatever would hit the Beguiler.
-Framer: Target appears "Evil" to Sheriff, "Owns a gun" to Investigator, or guilty results to tracker/watcher.

--Support
-Consigliere: Same as investigator. See special rules below.
-Consort: Roleblocker.
-Agent: Same as Watcher and Tracker. Knows who targeted target and who target targets.


~~Town Groups~~

--Government
-Mayor: Can reveal anytime during a day phase. Vote counts for 2 after reveal. Uses ##Reveal Mayor in the thread. No one else may do this.
-Jailor: Protects and Roleblocks target at night.
-Citizen: 1 use bulletproof vest. Always wins 1v1 with Mafia.

--Investigative
-Sheriff: Target player at night. "Good" or "Evil" Result
-Investigator: Learn information about target. (see special rules down below)
-Tracker: Knows who target targets that night.
-Watcher: Knows who targeted target.

--Killing
-Vigilante: Kills target. One use.
-Veteran: If power is used at night, becomes invulnerable and kills whoever targets them. Limited 2 uses.
-Poisoner: Target player dies after the NEXT night phase. Two uses. Can't be used on consecutive nights.

--Disruption
-Bus Driver: Targets two players. Whatever would have happened to one player would instead happen to the other. Vice versa. Targets aware they were bussed.
-Escort: Roleblocker
-Absorber: Absorbs abilities used on them. Can use one of the abilities used on them on the following night.

--Protective
-Doctor: Target is invulnerable that night.
-Bodyguard: If target is attacked, bodyguard and attacker both die. Target survives. Ignores night invulnerability.


~~Neutral Groups~~

--Killing
-Serial Killer: Target dies. Kills roleblockers that target them. Wins if final player.
-Arsonist: Can douse target or light. Light causes all previously doused targets to die. Victims know they are doused. Wins if final player.

--Evil
-Witch: Chooses "Control" and "Target". Control player uses their ability on Target player. Control player aware of their new target. Wins with Mafia.
-Cultist: Targets player on odd nights. Target loses their role and becomes a cultist. Most senior cultist chooses target.

--Benign
-Amnesiac: Chooses a dead player. Becomes their role. One use.
-Executioner: Given a random Townie Player Name at the beginning of the game. That player must be lynched for the Executioner to claim personal victory. If target dies in another manner, Executioner becomes a Jester.
-Survivor: Has limited amount of bulletproof vests. Wins personal victory if they Survive to the end. Limited uses based on total players.
-Jester: Wins personal victory if lynched. One random voter against the Jester dies that night.

If the game is left with only two players, this is the order in which someone automatically wins the matchup.

Arsonist > Serial Killer > Mafia > Cultist > Witch > Townie > Executioner > Amnesiac > Jester

(note: Citizen Role always wins 1v1 against a Mafia)



Investigator Results (applies to Investigator and Consigliere):
"Owns a gun" - Veteran, Vigilante, Any Mafia not listed below.
"Owns a knife" - Doctor, Bodyguard, Serial Killer
"Snoops around for information." - Sheriff, Investigator, Tracker, Watcher, Consigliere, Agent
"Smells like Chemicals" - Bus Driver, Arsonist, Absorber
"Solicits sex" - Escort, Consort
"Strange Runes" - Witch, Cultist
"Totally benign" - Mayor, Jailor, Citizen, Godfather, Amnesiac, Executioner, Survivor, Jester

Sheriff Results
Evil - Mafia Roles (except Godfather), Neutral Killing, Neutral Evil
Good - All other roles



48 hour days, 24 hour nights
Typical majority requirement for lynch
Game will continue regardless of Mafia:Others ratio.

1) Tearshed
2) CapitalistPig
3) Asiina
4) Magres
5) Poison Mushroom
6) Juanito
7) mr.capps
8) Crazyeyes
9) Kumbamontu
10) Jamuraan
11) goodness
12) uranus
13) Opopanex
14)

Backups
Puntification (available 8/11)
apostateCourier (unknown availability)

Zesty fucked around with this message at 21:46 on Aug 1, 2014

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tearshed
Mar 26, 2010

Leave it to me!
Oh hey I recognize those role names anywhere. DarkRevenant/SC2 mafia style. I got up to "~Neutral, -Killing, -Evil, -Benign" when it clicked.

I think I wrote some setup notes on how to translate the game to forum format.

This is a signup post but I am also up for discussion on the setup style.

tearshed
Mar 26, 2010

Leave it to me!
By the way, announce your game in the Game Announcement thread and the Discussion thread, otherwise nobody knows it exists!

Zesty
Jan 17, 2012

The Great Twist
I'll do that in the morning when I'm not on mobile. Currently at work.

Your free to discuss the setup with me if you like. I've run it on another forum a couple few times with 20ish players, so I know it works half decently.

CapitalistPig
Nov 3, 2005

A Winner is you!
I will do a thing called power role mafia.

Asiina
Apr 26, 2011

No going back
Grimey Drawer
Yes I need a new game and I love power roles.

Magres
Jul 14, 2011
Sounds fun, I'm game

girl dick energy
Sep 30, 2009

You think you have the wherewithal to figure out my puzzle vagina?
Sure, seems fun.

Mighty Morphin' Power Roles.

Juanito
Jan 20, 2004

I wasn't paying attention
to what you just said.

Can you repeat yourself
in a more interesting way?
Hell Gem
Sign me up!

Snooze Cruise
Feb 16, 2013

hey look,
a post
capps claims the first post

girl dick energy
Sep 30, 2009

You think you have the wherewithal to figure out my puzzle vagina?
Claiming now, I'm Vanilla Town.

CapitalistPig
Nov 3, 2005

A Winner is you!
I'm the town cop I investigated Poison Mushroom and she is scum.

girl dick energy
Sep 30, 2009

You think you have the wherewithal to figure out my puzzle vagina?

CapitalistPig posted:

I'm the town cop I investigated Poison Mushroom and she is scum.
Counter-claim, I'm actually a rolecop and CPig is the SK.

CapitalistPig
Nov 3, 2005

A Winner is you!

Poison Mushroom posted:

Counter-claim, I'm actually a rolecop and CPig is the SK.

Counter Counter Claim - I am actually the Role Cop deflector and I deflected myself onto capps, which would make him the SK

Snooze Cruise
Feb 16, 2013

hey look,
a post
counter counter counter counter counter counter counter counter counter counter counter counter counter counter counter countercountercountercountercountercountercountercountercountercountercountercountercountercountercountercountercountercountercountercountercountercountercountercoun

Snooze Cruise
Feb 16, 2013

hey look,
a post
claim: fart

Crazyeyes
Nov 5, 2009

If I were human, I believe my response would be: 'go to hell'.
I will join this merry band of fools.

kumba
Nov 8, 2003

I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!

enjoy the ride

Lipstick Apathy
okay

make me the hooker

Jamuraan
Oct 10, 2005

Jamuraan, J.D. in Critical Reasoning and Logic
Ask me about how good I am at party games! Please god ask me about how good I am at party games!
I'll play in this but I'll definitely lurk

goodness
Jan 3, 2012

When the light turns green, you go. When the light turns red, you stop. But what do you do when the light turns blue with orange and lavender spots?
I think I am ready to try Mafia again.

Jefepato
Mar 11, 2009

This?! This is a glorious dance! That has been passed down! In my family for generations!
Fine, why not. What's the worst that could happen? Put me in, please.

Non-Mafia edit: Actually, I don't know what I was thinking. I won't have time for this. Sorry.

Jefepato fucked around with this message at 13:00 on Jul 31, 2014

apostateCourier
Oct 9, 2012


I'm interested, but I'd rather wait until one of the games I'm in ends before joining another one.

tearshed
Mar 26, 2010

Leave it to me!

Met posted:

Your free to discuss the setup with me if you like. I've run it on another forum a couple few times with 20ish players, so I know it works half decently.
Instead of posting the entire setup, I'll just post some comparisons. I tried to mold the SC2 setup as close to SA standards as possible. I might advise renaming roles too, i.e. consigliere becomes rolecop (and the town version will have the same name). Escorts; roleblockers, etc.

Role modifications:
Mayor - vote counts for 2.
Vigilante - limited to 1 shot.
Godfather - investigates good, can be killed at night.
Agent - tracker+watcher, cooldown 1 night (can only use ability every two nights).
Serial Killer - can be killed at night.
Arsonist - can be killed at night.
Witch - win condition clarification: Survive and see the town lose the game (i.e. can win with mafia or solo).

Role removals:
Marshall - shakes up the entire voting process too much, and requires a lot of extra effort for mod work. Can keep if you want.
Veteran - Works with SC2 mafia because it's very fast paced, but for slower games it's just not fun.
Coroner - see janitor.
Janitor - removing role flips sucks, and it forces the coroner which is also a (relatively) boring town role.
Cultist - changing alignment also sucks. Games that include cults have to be handled delicately.
Amnesiac/Executioner/Jester/Survivor - Too many neutral role types. And these ones are the more boring ones. Why be a survivor when you can be a witch? etc.

Role additions:
Jailor - jailor + ability to mason with the target during the night and optionally vig/kill target. Requires communication between jailor and target, not very SA mafia friendly. Keeping the role as a simple jailor would work.
Blackmailer - target a player at night, player is PR restricted to only be able to ##vote
Kidnapper - mafia version of jailor.
Mafioso - vanillia mafia/goon.

Mechanics:
You get notified of being attacked/saved at night.
If one scum left they must kill or withhold, cannot do normal night action (i.e. roleblock)

Are you including death descriptions in this setup?

Magres
Jul 14, 2011
Isn't veteran basically a gimped PGO? I'd say just switch it for PGO and call it a day wrt that role.

Zesty
Jan 17, 2012

The Great Twist

tearshed posted:

Are you including death descriptions in this setup?

I am. Didn't include all the little things to try and contain information overload. I'll take your suggestions into consideration for the final game. Not blowing you off here, I agree with some role changes and think it would make things simpler to rename things like "Escort" to "Roleblocker" for convenience.

Zesty fucked around with this message at 16:40 on Jul 31, 2014

tearshed
Mar 26, 2010

Leave it to me!
Yeah a lot of the suggestions don't mesh well with how you currently set up your groups.

Zesty
Jan 17, 2012

The Great Twist
I have the next couple nights off and we still need a couple people. I'll do my best to sort through some things before starting.

goodness
Jan 3, 2012

When the light turns green, you go. When the light turns red, you stop. But what do you do when the light turns blue with orange and lavender spots?
I wonder if I have time or this since I work 7 shifts a week that I would not be able to check the the thread for 5-8 hours at a time. Hmm

JakeP
Apr 27, 2003

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Lipstick Apathy

goodness posted:

I wonder if I have time or this since I work 7 shifts a week that I would not be able to check the the thread for 5-8 hours at a time. Hmm

sounds like a terrible idea youll fit in around here nicely

derp
Jan 21, 2010

when i get up all i want to do is go to bed again

Lipstick Apathy
hi i will play if you still need more farts

Opopanax
Aug 8, 2007

I HEX YE!!!


I'm not reading any of that, make me 3P tia

Zesty
Jan 17, 2012

The Great Twist

Opopanax posted:

I'm not reading any of that, make me 3P tia

What?

Asiina
Apr 26, 2011

No going back
Grimey Drawer
Sign poopanal up and let's get this show on the road.

I want my power role!

Opopanax
Aug 8, 2007

I HEX YE!!!



Get with the lingo,hepcat

Puntification
Nov 4, 2009

Black Orthodontromancy
The most British Magic

Fun Shoe
I'm currently on holiday (and wasted) if no one else signs up before monday I will play.

Zesty
Jan 17, 2012

The Great Twist
So we have 13 people who are in (of a minimum 14) and 2 people who won't be available absolutely immediately. Those two can be backups if someone else signs up.

I also made some tweaks to the roles. Added some, took away some, tweaked a few.

Zesty fucked around with this message at 16:48 on Aug 1, 2014

Crazyeyes
Nov 5, 2009

If I were human, I believe my response would be: 'go to hell'.
So... we're going on with 13? Waiting for 14? :confused:

Zesty
Jan 17, 2012

The Great Twist
Waiting for a sign-up or for one of the backups to say they can start immediately. Finishing the final write-up and role assignments (using a random number generator!) so everything is good to go the second we get someone.

Magres posted:

Isn't veteran basically a gimped PGO? I'd say just switch it for PGO and call it a day wrt that role.

Paranoid Gun Owner makes more sense in games with fewer power roles. In a game like this where everyone is using abilities, we'd lose half the game to the PGO.

Zesty fucked around with this message at 17:00 on Aug 1, 2014

Angry Walrus
Aug 31, 2013

Quinn it
to
Win it.
Sign me up.

Nevermind, can't. Sorry.

Angry Walrus fucked around with this message at 19:05 on Aug 1, 2014

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derp
Jan 21, 2010

when i get up all i want to do is go to bed again

Lipstick Apathy
i'll play two roles

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