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The Flying Milton
Jan 18, 2005

k. And I wouldn't be surprised if it doesn't catch on.

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Doctor Goat
Jan 22, 2005

Where does it hurt?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulu_DPVzN2U

it's being branched into new technologies that are better imo

Wormskull
Aug 23, 2009

Gimmick has a C in it OP. Your opinion is hereby disqualified due to your being a massive idiot.

Flynn Taggart
Jun 14, 2006

:agreed:

Liquid Penguins
Feb 18, 2006

by Cowcaster
Grimey Drawer
no no no no the same journos that said fez was of any merit are saying positive things about the big goggles

are you gamers really gonna fall for this again?? I hope not

thewizardofshoe
Feb 24, 2013

Mark Zuckerberg is backing it so we can all chill in a virtual reality dudes.

Mr. Pumroy
May 20, 2001

you can have sex with animes using the rift so it will actually be a success

Kimmalah
Nov 14, 2005

Basically just a baby in a trenchcoat.


Mr. Pumroy posted:

you can have sex with animes using the rift so it will actually be a success

sounds like another second life in the making. "This will revolutionize technology as we know it! Oh wait no everyone's just using it for diaperfur vore sex and flying dongs." :smith:

free Trapt CD
Aug 22, 2013

*~:coffeepal:~*
I've got plenty of java
and Chesterfield Kings

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Mr. Pumroy posted:

you can have sex with animes using the rift so it will actually be a success

MarioTeachesWiping
Nov 1, 2006

by XyloJW
What an original and important opinion. Thank you for sharing, this has really given me pause

Kazvall
Mar 20, 2009

Until I have a port in my brain to wire me for direct input, everything is a loving gimmick. 3D does nothing for me. 3D movies suck dicks. Everything sucks dicks, just stop.

DoubleDonut
Oct 22, 2010


Fallen Rib
I bet this will totally allows us to do new things with games, and not give us the exact same poo poo but now it fucks up your eyes worse and you can't tell if someone's walking in while you're jerkin' it

Kimmalah
Nov 14, 2005

Basically just a baby in a trenchcoat.


DoubleDonut posted:

I bet this will totally allows us to do new things with games, and not give us the exact same poo poo but now it fucks up your eyes worse and you can't tell if someone's walking in while you're jerkin' it

you could get in on the ground floor here and patent some kind of door proximity alarm system for the rift

The Flying Milton
Jan 18, 2005

PC gamers buying an accessory? You can't even get them to buy games :filez:

The Flying Milton
Jan 18, 2005

The Flying Milton posted:

PC gamers buying an accessory? You can't even get them to buy games :filez:

But for real though, you can't standardize something unless you make it mandatory and that will never happen again on the PC.

Silver Striker
May 22, 2013

The Flying Milton posted:

But for real though, you can't standardize something unless you make it mandatory and that will never happen again on the PC.

KB+M. Your move, creep.

Wormskull
Aug 23, 2009

Silver Striker posted:

KB+M. Your move, creep.

Remember the release of Dark Souls on PC.

Doctor Goat
Jan 22, 2005

Where does it hurt?
all you need is kb+m and a 360 controller and you're set for All Games even emulator ones

maybe steam controller will even drop that barrier and work on everything but i doubt it

Mr. Pumroy
May 20, 2001

Kimmalah posted:

you could get in on the ground floor here and patent some kind of door proximity alarm system for the rift

hey honey, just doing my taxes *face red, pants hastily pulled up, motorized fleshlight hurled across the room but still on, squeaking anime schoolgirl moans from vr headset*

qnqnx
Nov 14, 2010

Hog Butcher posted:

all you need is kb+m and a 360 controller and you're set for All Games even emulator ones

maybe steam controller will even drop that barrier and work on everything but i doubt it

And the controller is for platformers.

Kimmalah
Nov 14, 2005

Basically just a baby in a trenchcoat.


Mr. Pumroy posted:

hey honey, just doing my taxes *face red, pants hastily pulled up, motorized fleshlight hurled across the room but still on, squeaking anime schoolgirl moans from vr headset*

no i don't know what that noise is, the rift just does that sometimes it's weird hehe

sesame_samuel_
Dec 24, 2012

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Mr. Pumroy posted:

hey honey, just doing my taxes *face red, pants hastily pulled up, motorized fleshlight hurled across the room but still on, squeaking anime schoolgirl moans from vr headset*
this will be truth, but instead of his wife finding out, he'd be scared of his 2D waifu finding out he was loving a 3D Hatsune Miku avatar

Bored Online
May 25, 2009

We don't need Rome telling us what to do.
the future success or failure of mainstream adoption of the rift is purely based on how much money facebook chooses to throw at it.

Kimmalah
Nov 14, 2005

Basically just a baby in a trenchcoat.


i'm not sure that will matter since pretty much every virtual reality/you're the controller! thing has failed no matter how much cash was thrown at it.

Meme Poker Party
Sep 1, 2006

by Azathoth
America congress must past law all PC must includ "joy" stick if use for games. This wil improve all PC game community.

- Chris Roberts

Space Hamlet
Aug 24, 2009

not listening
not listening
it may not Completely Revolutionize how we do anything (tho it seems a safe bet that it'll at least nurture the market for atmosphere-focused games to some degree) but peeps have been fondly imagining convincing VR for so long before it ever became a real possibility that it coming out and everyone just going "eh, whatever" seems kind of like a comically cynical prediction to me. itll definitely find an audience and succeed at least modestly

note: talking here about the premise, not the rift in particular. sony's or valve's products could easily overtake occulus

Kimmalah
Nov 14, 2005

Basically just a baby in a trenchcoat.


Probably because this isn't the first time people talked about VR like it was the wave of the future. And it's turned out to be a massive failure every time because shockingly most people don't want to flail around a room in a big dumb headset to play games.

Space Hamlet
Aug 24, 2009

not listening
not listening
really? NO ONE wants to do that? im sure lots of dorks do

is that really the reason previous attempts at this have failed, always thought that had more to do with the older poo poo barely fuckin working whereas by all accounts this new method is pretty convincing

edit: you did not actually say no one, my bad. still, i think it unwise to underestimate the number of dorks in the world

Space Hamlet fucked around with this message at 01:45 on Jul 28, 2014

Kimmalah
Nov 14, 2005

Basically just a baby in a trenchcoat.


I didn't say NO ONE I just have serious doubts about something like this taking off on a widespread scale, which will probably hamper any kind of development for it. Same thing that happened with the motion control poo poo that was supposed to revolutionize gaming.

Space Hamlet
Aug 24, 2009

not listening
not listening
I think that motion control was an unpromising idea built on some cool tech (which hasn't died, exactly, you see it applied here and there outside of games) whose fate was really sealed once it was pushed out on a huge scale before anyone could figure out how to make decent content for it. Conversely, VR can be applied to lots of existing content (flight sims, driving sims, walking sims) without the need for lots of new design work on the content side of things. The appeal to that audience is pretty natural, not unlike the TrackIR which is pretty niche but not unsuccesful.

Any talk of "revolutionizing" anything is almost always gonna prove hyperbolic, but I don't think we have to throw the baby out with the bathwater on that. There's clearly a lot of interest - just because PDAs didn't really take off doesn't mean smartphones were a bad idea

Kimmalah
Nov 14, 2005

Basically just a baby in a trenchcoat.


I'm skeptical and cynical I guess because I just don't see it taking off (beyond the sims you mentioned and probably porn).

chaosbreather
Dec 9, 2001

Wry and wise,
but also very sexual.

it isn't going to work for porn at all

aside from a few specialised positions or using a mirror or something you generally only see a portion of your partner's head while having sex with them. sometimes you don't see any of your partner at all. best case scenario you see some 3d tits jiggling. the problem is, sex is not primarily visual. a porn cameraman has a much better view of the action and there are all kinds of poo poo they worked out to make sex more visible, and pretty much all of it is unbearable to actually do on camera.

it also isn't going to work for games, at all.

what countless research hours have shown is, if character movement isn't coupled with physical confirmation from the inner ear and/or body, nausea inevitably results after 45 minutes, no matter the subject. there's a variance, but that's your lot. and no-one wants to move around to play or design games, they exhausted that market and space with the wii. (and the xbone is totally dominating the games that make you vomit space)

it will work for specific large scale arcade experiences where its ok to move around looking like an idiot, like augmented reality laser tag, but otherwise the best case scenario is a virtual tv, where you have 1:1 motion tracking for your avatar's head sitting in a virtual living room with a big tv in, on which you can watch movies and play 2D video games and not have to move around at all. that is good for cramped places like those coffin motels or planes, but otherwise a big tv is more practical and allows more than one person to join in and socialise.

program666
Aug 22, 2013

A giant carnivorous dinosaur
I really don't know how people think it will ever become popular among the masses. People can't even be interested in 3D enough to use it in their homes, and I loving love 3D, and play all games I possibly can in 3D. Even stuff that don't make much sense like street fighter.

Mr.Unique-Name
Jul 5, 2002

chaosbreather posted:

aside from a few specialised positions or using a mirror or something you generally only see a portion of your partner's head while having sex with them. sometimes you don't see any of your partner at all.

you have some boring rear end sex

DICKHEAD
Jul 29, 2003

The Flying Milton posted:

k. And I wouldn't be surprised if it doesn't catch on.

Organs
Feb 13, 2014

chaosbreather posted:

it isn't going to work for porn at all

aside from a few specialised positions or using a mirror or something you generally only see a portion of your partner's head while having sex with them. sometimes you don't see any of your partner at all. best case scenario you see some 3d tits jiggling. the problem is, sex is not primarily visual. a porn cameraman has a much better view of the action and there are all kinds of poo poo they worked out to make sex more visible, and pretty much all of it is unbearable to actually do on camera.

it also isn't going to work for games, at all.

what countless research hours have shown is, if character movement isn't coupled with physical confirmation from the inner ear and/or body, nausea inevitably results after 45 minutes, no matter the subject. there's a variance, but that's your lot. and no-one wants to move around to play or design games, they exhausted that market and space with the wii. (and the xbone is totally dominating the games that make you vomit space)

it will work for specific large scale arcade experiences where its ok to move around looking like an idiot, like augmented reality laser tag, but otherwise the best case scenario is a virtual tv, where you have 1:1 motion tracking for your avatar's head sitting in a virtual living room with a big tv in, on which you can watch movies and play 2D video games and not have to move around at all. that is good for cramped places like those coffin motels or planes, but otherwise a big tv is more practical and allows more than one person to join in and socialise.

what about a vr game where you're a porno cameraman and you can choose your loadout and get cumstreaks

chaosbreather
Dec 9, 2001

Wry and wise,
but also very sexual.

Organs posted:

what about a vr game where you're a porno cameraman and you can choose your loadout and get cumstreaks

there is already a product category that allows you to experience what it would be like to see people having staged sex through a camera

it's called 'pornography', it is free, widely available and doesn't feature actors that look like frightening soulless mannequins

sesame_samuel_
Dec 24, 2012

Pork Pro

chaosbreather posted:

doesn't feature actors that look like frightening soulless mannequins
loving dropped

Kimmalah
Nov 14, 2005

Basically just a baby in a trenchcoat.


chaosbreather posted:

there is already a product category that allows you to experience what it would be like to see people having staged sex through a camera

it's called 'pornography', it is free, widely available and doesn't feature actors that look like frightening soulless mannequins

judging from the poo poo i've seen in the terrible mod thread, there's a huge market for soulless mannequin porn.

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Poniard
Apr 3, 2011



i got an oculus rift for free because i met a dude who works there and i have access to at least 8 more of them. i've made 2 virtual reality things and i still think oculus rifts as they are are lovely gimmicks. ever y time someone asks to try the drat thing i try my best to show them something traumatizing with it. use it for combat simulators or something, dont give it to nerds. come on, actual virtual reality hotline miami or something. dont sit on your rear end with a controller and have dorky rear end goggles on your face. look like a dork with the treadmill poo poo and kill the virtual mans. get psyched

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