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Biowarfare
Nov 8, 2010

I JUST WISH THIS WAS A PONY SO I COULD JERK IT WHILE I PLAY WOW

AreWeDrunkYet posted:

The time zone difference would kill your quality of life too. Hope you enjoy 11pm staff meetings.

i am a night person and i'd much prefer 9pm-4am working hours. i usually take night time incidents if they happen because i'm awake anyway

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Crosby B. Alfred
May 20, 2006


Biowarfare posted:

about once every few months i consider a penthouse in southeast asia and eating lobster every day while making 300k remote then i think about how bad the internet connectivity and latency would be

I did a graveyard shift for nearly a year. You'd hate it even in a late night city like Bangkok. The internet at least in the cities is at least just as good as it is in Europe and the US.

But speaking of, not sure what happened but Google/Facebook is now targeting me with "Work from Dubai remotely!" advertisements.

Biowarfare
Nov 8, 2010

I JUST WISH THIS WAS A PONY SO I COULD JERK IT WHILE I PLAY WOW

Crosby B. Alfred posted:

I did a graveyard shift for nearly a year. You'd hate it even in a late night city like Bangkok. The internet at least in the cities is at least just as good as it is in Europe and the US.

But speaking of, not sure what happened but Google/Facebook is now targeting me with "Work from Dubai remotely!" advertisements.

what i really meant was whenever I had to go around it ends up being that I still access english-language sites 99% of the time, so that's 300-600ms rt every time. I've found that outside of US/EU most of the countries that have decent cheap fibre actually just have a countrywide LAN of sorts, like Korea and Japan both get easy gigabit domestically but bottleneck to poo poo as soon as it has to exit the country (not withstanding the terrible sk "gfw" that's historically bundled in lgbt-rights sites in with porn bans). I'm WFH on VPN through a high latency hotspot already in the US and it's already ludicrously painful waiting 10 seconds for dns resolution alone

I'm curious, what is the worst part about graveyard shift if I'm already awake until 3-4 am every day and have been for years?

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!



bull3964 posted:

When a semi-talented high school graduate living on their parent's farm in rural Kansas can hop on a computer and start coding for google with no other lifestyle changes, that is absolutely going to start depressing wages over time.

Stuart Parmenter existed in the late 90's.

Sickening
Jul 15, 2007

Black summer was the best summer.

Infosec: Hey, your azure app service you just deployed has some suggested settings that need applied, let us know if you need help.
Dev: My code is fine.
Infosec: We are talking about the app service in azure, here are the links to the resources as well as the suggested remediation. Let us know if you have questions.
Dev: Which app?
Infosec: We are reaching out for this linked app service. See link that was sent below.
Dev: The [insert poo poo app] app?
Infosec: You created the resources, we have linked the resource.
Dev: Oh, I will delete it.


I want to throw devs into the river.

Crosby B. Alfred
May 20, 2006


Biowarfare posted:

what i really meant was whenever I had to go around it ends up being that I still access english-language sites 99% of the time, so that's 300-600ms rt every time. I've found that outside of US/EU most of the countries that have decent cheap fibre actually just have a countrywide LAN of sorts, like Korea and Japan both get easy gigabit domestically but bottleneck to poo poo as soon as it has to exit the country (not withstanding the terrible sk "gfw" that's historically bundled in lgbt-rights sites in with porn bans). I'm WFH on VPN through a high latency hotspot already in the US and it's already ludicrously painful waiting 10 seconds for dns resolution alone

I'm curious, what is the worst part about graveyard shift if I'm already awake until 3-4 am every day and have been for years?

Interesting, I didn't know that's how they bundled everything together but if you've been working graveyard shifts that long I think you'll be fine but I can't ever recommend it.

Biowarfare
Nov 8, 2010

I JUST WISH THIS WAS A PONY SO I COULD JERK IT WHILE I PLAY WOW

Crosby B. Alfred posted:

Interesting, I didn't know that's how they bundled everything together but if you've been working graveyard shifts that long I think you'll be fine but I can't ever recommend it.

I haven't been working graveyard shifts, just normal day time, but that's my usual awakeness schedule. I guess it might be different if I had to actively work for the entire night time instead of just be awake coding for fun or gaming. What are your thoughts?

So the network situation: in Asia at least, virtually every ISP hates each other and rarely peers country to country, everything is backhauled to either Los Angeles, HK, or SG. You pay your residential ISP one price, but in reality they have domestic vs international traffic. If you are buying transit in Thailand or Indonesia or etc you pay massively differing prices based on international or domestic, think $50-200/1Mbps vs $1/1Mbps 95th percentile levels of difference, and everything that doesn't go over their network partners gets bottlenecked severely.

On cheaper networks going from PH -> PH might transit via SG for cost or incumbent monopoly vs 'the other choice isp' refusal to peer. In Indonesia for example providers will straight advertise they have "1 Mbps intl 1000 Mbps IIX", in Pakistan or Sri Lanka it's somewhat common that home ISPs run local LAN (192.168-esque) warez FTP servers.

luminalflux
May 27, 2005



gently caress even in Mexico we had data going from my residential fiber connection in CDMX to our datacenter in Queretaro (a distance of ~200km) via LA and Texas because Axtel and Kio did dumb poo poo on the way

Crosby B. Alfred
May 20, 2006


Biowarfare posted:

On cheaper networks going from PH -> PH might transit via SG for cost or incumbent monopoly vs 'the other choice isp' refusal to peer. In Indonesia for example providers will straight advertise they have "1 Mbps intl 1000 Mbps IIX", in Pakistan or Sri Lanka it's somewhat common that home ISPs run local LAN (192.168-esque) warez FTP servers.



I'm not surprised. I'd be fun to load up FileZilla or hell even DC++ if that stuff is still around just to see all the weird crazy poo poo people have collected over the years.

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

Bless You Ants, Blants



Here in bits of the UK you can get a symmetric gigabit fibre connection from Vodafone for £40, but they run their network so hot that in the evening peaks it's not unheard of to dip below 100Mbps. Vodafone also had a software bug on some router cards that made it impossible to stream Netflix etc. and it took them three months to diagnose the fault, and there was another occasion where they routed everything via a partner network out in India.

All this stuff should be picked up automatically, but nobody gives a single poo poo about building a quality service, they just want to win price wars.

jaegerx
Sep 10, 2012

Maybe this post will get me on your ignore list!



So to recap the day. I should get married. Move to a 3rd world country and suffer under lovely internet to do my job.

Iíve got 2 of the 3 things done. I live in Texas and have spectrum. Clam down. Baby. Marry me.


E: while itís still legal here

jaegerx
Sep 10, 2012

Maybe this post will get me on your ignore list!



On a side note. Starlink says I can order it now so I did. I have to know if itís actually viable

Biowarfare
Nov 8, 2010

I JUST WISH THIS WAS A PONY SO I COULD JERK IT WHILE I PLAY WOW

I tried emailing spectrum abuse last week and they kept telling me to check what the abuse handle is on that IP and that it isn't their responsibility and to only contact them for abuse from spectrum IPs

It's a spectrum ip

So there's that

(It's still trying to bruteforce the internet, and is hosting an old baby/nursery IOT camera on port 80)

Biowarfare fucked around with this message at 23:59 on Feb 24, 2021

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

Bless You Ants, Blants



That reminds me, I emailed the network contact at two US universities a few months ago when the web interface for some Brother label printers were showing up in Google results, never got a response and both printers are still open to the world.

Biowarfare
Nov 8, 2010

I JUST WISH THIS WAS A PONY SO I COULD JERK IT WHILE I PLAY WOW

I replied with a c/p of the whois output for the IP i'm trying to report explicitly showing their email as the abuse contact. They closed the ticket and responded with the same message

Defenestrategy
Oct 24, 2010

Worst decision I ever made.


Thanks Ants posted:

That reminds me, I emailed the network contact at two US universities a few months ago when the web interface for some Brother label printers were showing up in Google results, never got a response and both printers are still open to the world.

Surprised no ones gotten the fun idea to print "Hey your printer is exposed to the wider internet" multiple times. With how lovely my college was about printing stuff, I'd imagine finance or something would scream bloody murder about forty pages of labels getting printed.

Vargatron
Apr 19, 2008

MRAZZLE DAZZLE



Defenestrategy posted:

Surprised no ones gotten the fun idea to print "Hey your printer is exposed to the wider internet" multiple times. With how lovely my college was about printing stuff, I'd imagine finance or something would scream bloody murder about forty pages of a large annoying font being printed.

You mean 40 pages of goatse

PCjr sidecar
Jan 26, 2011

dude, you gotta end it on the rhyme



Vargatron posted:

You mean 40 pages of goatse

weev alt spotted

jaegerx
Sep 10, 2012

Maybe this post will get me on your ignore list!



Biowarfare posted:

I replied with a c/p of the whois output for the IP i'm trying to report explicitly showing their email as the abuse contact. They closed the ticket and responded with the same message

Look at you. Still trying to fight that fight. With the advent of cloud providers what is even the point of emailing an abuse team. Just secure your poo poo.

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

I am a strawman spewing, non listening, logic challenged douchebag supreme trolling TFR. Ignore me.


Defenestrategy posted:

Surprised no ones gotten the fun idea to print "Hey your printer is exposed to the wider internet" multiple times. With how lovely my college was about printing stuff, I'd imagine finance or something would scream bloody murder about forty pages of labels getting printed.

That may be a felony, depending on how many hours they spend troubleshooting the issue.

Biowarfare
Nov 8, 2010

I JUST WISH THIS WAS A PONY SO I COULD JERK IT WHILE I PLAY WOW

jaegerx posted:

Look at you. Still trying to fight that fight. With the advent of cloud providers what is even the point of emailing an abuse team. Just secure your poo poo.

Sorry but I pay per MB/GB ingested into my personal for-fun Splunk cluster licence and I'm ssh key only anyway it's just failing against it at several thousand packets per second

jaegerx
Sep 10, 2012

Maybe this post will get me on your ignore list!



Biowarfare posted:

Sorry but I pay per MB/GB ingested into my personal for-fun Splunk cluster licence and I'm ssh key only anyway it's just failing against it at several thousand packets per second

Iptables -a input -s $ip -j drop

You are welcome

E: wait. Who has a personal for fun splunk cluster. How big is your lab bro and why is it exposed to the internet?

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

Bless You Ants, Blants



Biowarfare posted:

I replied with a c/p of the whois output for the IP i'm trying to report explicitly showing their email as the abuse contact. They closed the ticket and responded with the same message

Ah this is jogging my memory. I sent a ticket to the NHS email help desk (of course itís outsourced) because a load of queries about COVID vaccine software were landing in our Zendesk instance, and I assumed that they would want to track down where the wrong email address was stored since, you know, people had problems and were assuming their issue was being handled until they got a reply from us saying we have nothing to do with healthcare. They closed the ticket and said their team only supported email problems for internal staff. Thanks guys.

Sickening
Jul 15, 2007

Black summer was the best summer.

Biowarfare posted:

Sorry but I pay per MB/GB ingested into my personal for-fun Splunk cluster licence and I'm ssh key only anyway it's just failing against it at several thousand packets per second

While you should have some ability to report ip addresses, I feel like the solution here has little to do with reporting the ip address. If you leave a resource open to the internet, sooner or later things are going to attack it. Why not put something in front of it?

Defenestrategy
Oct 24, 2010

Worst decision I ever made.


AreWeDrunkYet posted:

That may be a felony, depending on how many hours they spend troubleshooting the issue.

I know that the "unlocked door" defense doesn't work. Just sayin' OTHER people with access to someones unlocked wifi wouldn't mess around with it for kicks.

wargames
Mar 16, 2008

official yospos cat censor


Vargatron posted:

See I was just raised poor in the South, so literally having Internet at all and an air conditioning unit that works is good enough for me!

Not sure if this is what y'all mean, but the cost of living where I'm at is fairly low because rent is fairly cheap and food/gas are cheap as well.

I am making 21/hr so people posting 100k+ a year is weird to me.

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Biowarfare
Nov 8, 2010

I JUST WISH THIS WAS A PONY SO I COULD JERK IT WHILE I PLAY WOW

i find it somewhat insane that in the same country there are cities where 10/hr gets you a decent house and yard and there are cities where renting a roach-infested micro studio is 4k/m+ (and something this low comes with a massive waiting list and the property can afford to be very picky) and the poverty line is 120k-140k

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