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Qublai Qhan posted:Since the founders generally had a classical education they were undoubtedly aware of the Greek example, but I doubt that they would have found it highly convincing by itself. I think that it's much more likely that they were influenced against democracy by antipathy towards populism which is at the core of the philosophy of democracy but is by no means unique to democracy. Basically the founding fathers were aware that poor people tend to be stupid and religious and that such people are easy to manipulate. I'm guessing if they had any lingering populist beliefs the French revolution sealed the deal in their minds on that one...
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Fados posted:Democracy is the holy cow of our times for all Leftist, even though it simply seems to not be working for the last decades, the solution always has to be more ~Democracy~. As Democracy can't really be discussed, since the problem is obviously that we need 'more democracy' all talks about it will end up in something else: how to end corruption, how to stop excessive party financing, how to get people involved, etc.. Never can we really discuss how the plural multi party system, has maybe run it's course and something else entirely might be in order. Is there another system that hasn't been tried, or has been tried and has shown itself to have a better ROI across its entire population?
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Aug 26, 2014 12:57
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I need to do a comparison between China and America, but normalized for development cycle. What do you think is a good time frame... 50s and early 60s America?
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Aug 26, 2014 13:08
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"generally better" requires a relative comparison which will be skewed if you don't account for their different stages of economic development. I mean, China could implode in massive civil unrest leading to an authoritarian crackdown which guts the middle class and then all of a sudden "better" won't apply anymore.
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Aug 26, 2014 13:16
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Fados posted:Sure, finance would probably survive but what about democracy as such? If we had to have another round of bailouts, and austerity cuts in educations, public sector and healthcare, taking into account that the last European Union elections had less than half of voter turnover, you can see that the way to way to a Russian style oligarchy, with the manly nationalistic leader on top doesn't seem that far away. Well heck when anyone talks about western democracy I hear it as western 'democracy' anyhow...
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Aug 26, 2014 13:46
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