Guardians of the Galaxy

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Riven: Apr 22, 2002

VaultAggie posted:

I'm kinda confused by this movie. The other Marvel movies made it seem like all the other worlds in the galaxy were isolated. Like the shiny bridge thing in Thor that allowed them to travel to other worlds. However, this movie seems to make it seem like space travel and such is commonplace and humans are all over the place. I don't know poo poo about the comics but this is throwing me off. Is this set in the same universe as the others?

So, those other worlds you've seen so far lie in the Norse mythos type hierarchy posted above.

But in our realm there, there's also regular space, as we know it. GotG takes place in other star systems in our galaxy. But anyone you see who looks human in GotG looks that way because comic book writers wanted to do sci-fi and not draw a billion aliens. Other than Chris Pratt, everyone in this film is an alien, even if they look human.

Think Galactus/Silver Surfer from Fantastic 4, the Venom symbiote from Spider-Man, or Phoenix from X-Men (not from X-3). In the Marvel universe, there's a ton of scary poo poo in space.

Also, what the hell: my local theater listed showings at 7 pm tomorrow, going late, and a show at 12:01. Now I thought, huh, it must open on the 31st for there to be shows at 7 pm, so the 12:01 show must be tonight. Nope. Midnight premieres start at 7 pm now. And Christmas starts before Thanksgiving.

Riven fucked around with this message at 05:52 on Jul 31, 2014

# ¿ Jul 31, 2014 05:44

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# ¿ Apr 25, 2024 14:56

Riven: Apr 22, 2002

In line for a 7 pm IMAX showing. Normally don't put up the extra money for it, but doing so on the I put from the thread. 1 hour to go!

# ¿ Aug 1, 2014 00:56

Riven: Apr 22, 2002

Really great, can't wait to get the Blu-Ray and just freeze frame a million times to get everything on their prison eval screens, everything in the Collection, etc. There is so much detail and stuff going on I feel like I missed half the film, Ina good way.

A little disappointed with the Collector. He's a more sinister character in the comics. I was confused as to why he would want Groot's body, and then ignore a unique talking raccoon. I kept waiting for him to try and keep them as part of the deal. But there were already enough bad guys to fill the movie. We'll definitely see it again before it leaves theaters.

# ¿ Aug 1, 2014 05:02

Riven: Apr 22, 2002

Oh and apparently Nathan Fillion's cameo that everyone thought would be some awesome hero was as the inmate who wants to lather up Quill and gets tree branches up his nose. I love his wonky cameos like this and the porn-obsessed janitor on Community.

# ¿ Aug 1, 2014 05:15

Riven: Apr 22, 2002

Alright, I'M standing now. You happy? We're all standing now. Standing around. Like jackasses.

My favorite Rocket moment, just because of how effectively it makes fun of that type of scene.

# ¿ Aug 1, 2014 17:32

Riven: Apr 22, 2002

Who did you consider the useless bureaucrat? Nova Prime? She came across as a competent leader to me...

# ¿ Aug 1, 2014 17:44

Riven: Apr 22, 2002

morestuff posted:

Well, she signs an ultimately pointless treaty, and can't even get the Kree guy to verbally condemn a fringe terrorist. In the battle, the Nova Corps can't stop a single ship and needs to be bailed out by the space pirates. The Corps' main plan is a light net that temporarily holds the ship in place, and it wasn't actually clear to me if that was even her order or Peter Serafinowicz's. Am I forgetting something?

I think some of this comes down to the general issues people are having with the plot and exposition for people's motives/backgrounds.

The treat isn't pointless if it stops an entire Kree army from raining down in a big war, but we never learn anything about the Kree except for that one conversation, and Ronan, who we basically have no knowledge about. Since we don't know anything about them, we don't know why he won't condemn Ronan.

The Nova Corps thing is even more egregious. Not for her particularly, but more, why does a planet that just ended a huge interstellar war only have about 1,000 planet based jet fighters for defense? Where is their armada?

They could have milked drama out of her believing the stone was a myth and not immediately believing the threat. Instead she takes the threat seriously but doesn't panic. She evacuates the city, then is rational enough to accept the only help offered, even though it's by criminals, then launches the only forces she has and puts them to the best use she can within the larger plan: give the strike force time to act.

Basically I think she's a competent leader in a film that doesn't pay much attention to giving us information about the Universe beyond what's on screen at any given time.

# ¿ Aug 1, 2014 20:07

Riven: Apr 22, 2002

morestuff posted:

Not sure what you're getting at. He doesn't understand the basic concept of metaphors, so he assumes she's actually a whore for no reason?

Drax is just written very inconsistently. His non reaction to "we give a poo poo" that others have pointed out is the best example.

# ¿ Aug 1, 2014 20:30

Riven: Apr 22, 2002

Strange Matter posted:

Yes and that was another amazing joke that utterly killed me too.

"Oh, I wasn't listening. I was thinking about something else."

You guys are right. I need to watch this again. It was easy to miss so much.

# ¿ Aug 1, 2014 20:39

Riven: Apr 22, 2002

i like tacos posted:

I'm pretty sure they just got there since Thanos was mad that they weren't able to retrieve the orb for him

I got that impression as well. I also felt like Quill wasn't intending on screwing Yondu, but had to run instead of hanging around, and then it looked bad and he was already in trouble so he just ran with it.

# ¿ Aug 3, 2014 06:09

Riven: Apr 22, 2002

LASTCAR posted:

I've been chewing this over since seeing the film earlier today, but I have to say, I still feel pretty mixed about it. I mean, I really enjoyed all the character development and how Star-Lord's crew played off each other. I really felt the characters were more likable and well-developed than in other Marvel films, which is a huge step in the right direction.

But I have to say, I found it unnecessary to bookend the film with the mother dying of cancer. I understand that it served a number of purposes in the film: (1) it set up how Star-Lord got abducted, (2) it explained Star-Lord's infatuation with music, (3) it drew a comparison between Star-Lord and his crew about "what they have lost" (cancer = slain by galactic barbarians?!) and (4) it gave the "take my hand" scene with the orb added meaning. But couldn't those same purposes have been served by Star-Lord being abducted while walking home from school with his walkman, or running away after yelling at his parents, or something less grim? Why was a tragedy needed on top of his abduction? To me, it just didn't jive with the overall tone of the movie - or how it was advertised.

He was only abducted because his dad paid for him to be because his mom died though. I'm pretty sure.

Also, I felt like that scene jibed so well with the rest of the movie in terms of matching drama with comedy. Super sad scene, then he runs out directly into the tractor beam of a space ship. It was so absurd that several people, including me, laughed out loud. It broke the tension in a good way for me.

# ¿ Aug 3, 2014 06:54

Riven: Apr 22, 2002

Also the ship was Murano, not Milano.

# ¿ Aug 3, 2014 16:04

Riven: Apr 22, 2002

Neowyrm posted:

No it wasn't you dingus

http://shop.lego.com/en-US/The-Milano-Spaceship-Rescue-76021?fromListing=listing

Yes it was, Dingus.

"The 76021 LEGO Murano is a very striking, almost bird-like spaceship with an eye-catching blue, yellow and grey color scheme. It�s piloted by the LEGO Gamora minifigure (the sole female member of the Guardians of the Galaxy), and you can see the LEGO Drax the Destroyer minifigure right behind Gamora in the cockpit of the Murano! Drax is, of course, played by WWE Superstar and former World Heavyweight Champion Batista!

In addition to the Murano and the LEGO Gamora and LEGO Drax minifigures, the LEGO 76021 Milano Ship Rescue set will also include a very small ship�the Milano�and three more minifigures. One of the minifigures is the leader of the Guardians of the Galaxy, the first-ever LEGO Starlord minifigure. The LEGO Star Lord figure looks sort of weird at a glance, but I think everyone will warm up to it when they grow accustomed to Star Lord�s appearance (and scary mask) in the Guardians of the Galaxy movie.

The LEGO Milano ship is piloted by a LEGO Sakaaran Soldier minifigure (basically, a generic bad guy)."

http://www.bricksandbloks.com/lego-guardians-galaxy-milano-ship-rescue-76021-photos/

There's also a shot at the final battle on Xandar of the ship from the top, the name is on the wing, and it was really clear. Seeing it again this afternoon and I'll confirm it.

Riven fucked around with this message at 16:31 on Aug 3, 2014

# ¿ Aug 3, 2014 16:26

Riven: Apr 22, 2002

My favorite part of that reading is that it implies at some point Rocket fell in love with someone, got them to fall in love with a mutated/experimented-on raccoon, and then had successful inter-mutated/experimented-on species sex, and had children, that at least lived for awhile to be killed, all in a life that he admits is relatively short-spanned anyways.

Or maybe they were step-children. Who knows?

# ¿ Aug 3, 2014 20:18

Riven: Apr 22, 2002

Ok, I'm the dingus. I have no idea now where I got Murano, and it's weird that the Lego thing was wrong too independently.

But I was right about Drax not responding to the "give a poo poo" line. It was in direct response to his question, and the "I wasn't listening" was earlier in that scene. I'm writing it off to him understanding that even if he doesn't get it it's probably one of those emotional metaphors the other characters use all the time.

# ¿ Aug 4, 2014 00:11

Riven: Apr 22, 2002

I wonder if they might go that way once or twice as the older actors drop out, with someone else picking up the mantle.

# ¿ Aug 4, 2014 00:28

Riven: Apr 22, 2002

Mantis42 posted:

His men read the giant floating text when they went to get the orb.

What's more impressive is how wrapped up Quill was in dancing that he completely missed it hanging over his head.

# ¿ Aug 4, 2014 01:07

Riven: Apr 22, 2002

Where does the Infinity Gauntlet stuff fall in with that? Since that's what's coming up I'f like to read it. Any similar image/list for that story?

# ¿ Aug 4, 2014 15:55

Riven: Apr 22, 2002

Vishass posted:

Yeah, I think Yondu even said he was scared to go back to Earth, but I don't know why he'd forbid him from returning.

I don't think he had a vintage Hi-Fi in his backpack when he was abducted. I assume the stereo and the anachronistic reference(s) are plot holes, but my No Prize guess is he did go back to Earth once.

Am I the only one who thinks it was weird that his mom gives her 10 year old son mix tapes featuring a bunch of radio friendly boning tunes? I mean they weren't exclusively that or explicit, but basically her awesome early 90s mix would definitely have had BoysIIMen "I'll make love to you" on it.

Maybe she intended it to be "the talk" that she could never give him.

# ¿ Aug 4, 2014 20:54

Riven: Apr 22, 2002

Chocolate Teapot posted:

I couldn't help but notice the score when Groot releases the light spores aboard Ronan's ship.

Yeah that was a beautiful piece of music.

Also, the music when they're all sharing the stone's energy seemed like a modified Avengers theme.

# ¿ Aug 5, 2014 17:19

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# ¿ Apr 25, 2024 14:56

Riven: Apr 22, 2002

Party Boat posted:

Just compare Bale in American Psycho and Batman - while his bulking up for Batman was incredible it's clear that dropping all that weight for the Machinist did long term damage to him.

Hugh Jackman's physique becomes more terrifying with each new xmen film.

There was an interview with Bale after American Hustle where he talked about regretting the weight for that movie. He has a slipped disc and permanently lost an inch of height. He thought it would take a month or two to lose it after the filming, but it took almost a year and the quote was something like "Oh I'm 40 now..."

# ¿ Aug 16, 2014 16:21

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