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DONT THREAD ON ME
Oct 1, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo


Floss Finder

eric raymond chandler bing

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Mr. Glass
May 1, 2009



5

Panty Saluter
Jan 17, 2004

Making learning fun!


Moist von Lipwig
Oct 28, 2006

by FactsAreUseless


Tortured By Flan

USSMICHELLEBACHMAN posted:

eric raymond chanandler bong

pram
Jun 10, 2001


Mr. Glass posted:

yeah laugh it up

then i realized he (a) hasn't actually done anything and (b) is a complete rear end in a top hat, so

the best thing about that photo is the copy of the cathedral and the bazaar on the ottoman

wrong he was temporarily a millionaire

Mr. Glass
May 1, 2009


pram posted:

wrong he was temporarily a millionaire



sure if you count "having some money" as "doing something"

pram
Jun 10, 2001


is not a man entitled to the restricted stock of his absurdly overvalued ipo?

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

the old man
and the c


pram posted:

wrong he was temporarily a millionaire



last time we did this we had some forensic evidence to show that in fact he rode LNUX all the way into the ground and i was so happy.

Mr. Glass
May 1, 2009


pram posted:

is not a man entitled to the restricted stock of his absurdly overvalued ipo?

only during the trading window

Knuc U Kinte
Aug 17, 2004



Why does everyone hate esr so much? Is it because he exudes confident swag while being an ugly potbellied human being.

Sham bam bamina!
Nov 6, 2012

ƨtupid cat


Knuc U Kinte posted:

Why does everyone hate esr so much? Is it because he exudes confident swag while being an ugly potbellied human being.
Now Iím going to explain my feelings about black people; bear with me, this is analytically relevant. The most important point is that black people in particular have never made me feel repelled in the way minority X does. Iíve had black girlfriends and might not implausibly have ended up married to one of them, whereas I cannot easily imagine circumstances under which I would be sexually attracted to a minority X woman; my ďickĒ reaction would be too strong.

Scrupulous honesty requires me to report here that there is a small subset of blacks to which I do have a twitchy hindbrain reaction something like ďAnimal; unsafe; avoid.Ē But Iíve noticed that blacks outside this subset have that reaction too. so Iím probably not reacting to ďraceĒ in this respect. It may be related that I perceive a lot more variety among blacks than I do among minority X.

Now the uncomfortable part: by any objective measure, blacks as a group are a problem of a kind minority X is not. Lower mean IQ, more crime and violence, more welfare dependency, lots of whining for privileges, etcetera etcetera. And I have had the experience of feeling like I was in physical danger when isolated with a group of black people (just once, on a night train in New Jersey, but that once was more than enough).

So, if feelings of racial revulsion are in general driven by some sort of tribal or individual threat perception (I asked myself), why didnít I have a similar response a lot sooner with respect to blacks? Canít have been familiarity from childhood exposure; I grew up in places, mostly outside the U.S., were there werenít any black people. Didnít meet one until my mid-teens.

OK, so it looks like we can discard sociological theories and rational threat responses. What else could be going on here?

To find that out, I started paying closer attention to my sensory experiences and gut reactions as I dealt with this group. Which individuals bothered me less, which more. And in what specific ways.

It only took a few minutes of this for me to identify specific sensory stimuli that were triggering my feelings of revulsion. Iím not going to describe the specific stimuli in detail because I really donít want anybody to be able to figure out which minority is X. But I can identify three specific triggers.

One was: their skin color looks fecal. The other was: their bone structure doesnít look human. And theyíre just off-reference enough to be much more creepy than if they looked less like people, like bad CGI or shambling undead in a B movie. When I paid close enough attention, these were the three basic data under the revulsion; my hindbrain thought it was surrounded by alien poo poo zombies.

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

the old man
and the c


Knuc U Kinte posted:

Why does everyone hate esr so much? Is it because he exudes confident swag while being an ugly potbellied human being.

its many reasons

of course, he holds many loathesome opinions, we are all familiar with those

he also claims be speak for hackers, when in fact he has never written anything of any consequence. when his obvious shortcomings as a programmer were made apparent, he tried to get his changes in via the same back channels that he scoffed at in his book

the book he wrote that was his only real claim to fame is garbage trash for idiots

these, among many others, are reasons we hate him

Knuc U Kinte
Aug 17, 2004



rotor posted:

its many reasons

of course, he holds many loathesome opinions, we are all familiar with those

he also claims be speak for hackers, when in fact he has never written anything of any consequence. when his obvious shortcomings as a programmer were made apparent, he tried to get his changes in via the same back channels that he scoffed at in his book

the book he wrote that was his only real claim to fame is garbage trash for idiots

these, among many others, are reasons we hate him

Not seeing why I shouldn't think he's cool.

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

the old man
and the c


like ok sure, rms has a lot of terrible opinions, and he eats his toenails, and is comically fat. but you know what? dude wrote emacs and a big chunk of gcc and gave them away. I have built a lot of software on top of his work, so I owe him something, as do we all.

pram
Jun 10, 2001


Knuc U Kinte posted:

Not seeing why I shouldn't think he's cool.

being contrarian is cool

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

the old man
and the c


Knuc U Kinte posted:

Not seeing why I shouldn't think he's cool.

he's ugly and is a cripple

maniacdevnull
Apr 18, 2007

FOUR CUBIC FRAMES
DISPROVES SOFT G GOD
YOU ARE EDUCATED STUPID



Share Bear posted:

yourself, yourself, yourself

computer toucher
Jan 8, 2012



He's the most terrible of nerds, and since this is an internet community of nearly equally terrible nerds, it is required for us, for our own mental health and self-respect, to hate ESR for the uncomfortable realization that there, but for the grace of YOSPOS, go I.

Smythe
Oct 12, 2003

In the future, sex roles are reversed and simplified for ease-of-use.

rotor posted:

like ok sure, rms has a lot of terrible opinions, and he eats his toenails, and is comically fat. but you know what? dude wrote emacs and a big chunk of gcc and gave them away. I have built a lot of software on top of his work, so I owe him something, as do we all.

:allears:

emoji
Jun 4, 2004


rotor posted:

its many reasons

of course, he holds many loathesome opinions, we are all familiar with those

he also claims be speak for hackers, when in fact he has never written anything of any consequence. when his obvious shortcomings as a programmer were made apparent, he tried to get his changes in via the same back channels that he scoffed at in his book

the book he wrote that was his only real claim to fame is garbage trash for idiots

these, among many others, are reasons we hate him

I didn't know about esr until I read yospos because I don't read about the lives of siliconfags unless it's posted here

Migishu
Oct 22, 2005

I'll eat your fucking eyeballs if you're not careful



Grimey Drawer

N.Z.'s Champion
Jun 8, 2003

what's hara kiri?


Yam Slacker

Knuc U Kinte posted:

Why does everyone hate esr so much? Is it because he exudes confident swag while being an ugly potbellied human being.



"Iím what PUAs call a ďnaturalĒ, a man who figured out much of game on
his own and consequently cuts a wide sexual swathe when he cares to.
Not quite the same game theyíre playing, however. For one thing, Iíve
never tried to pick up a woman in a bar in my entire life. College
parties when I was a student, yes; SF conventions, neopagan festivals,
SCA events, yes; bars, no. Also, and partly as consequence of where I
hang out, it has been quite unusual for me to hit on women with IQs
below about 120 Ė and it may well be the case that Iíve never tried to
interest a woman with below-average intelligence. (Er, which is not to
say they donít notice me; even in middle age I get lots of IOIs from
waitresses and other female service personnel. Any PUA would tell you
this is a predictable and unremarkable consequence of being an alpha
male.)"



"I think all teachers, day-care staff, and other adults in loco-parentis for groups of children should be required to carry firearms on the job. Maintaining continued proficiency at rapid-reaction tactical shooting should be a condition of their continued employment. Their job is to protect children; if they are not physically, mentally, and morally competent to do that job, they donít belong in it."



"When I told this story, later, the reaction I got was often something
like this: ďWTF? Youíre a famously charismatic speaker, you energized
an entire social movement, legions of geeks look up to you, and youíre
surprised you have leadership capability? That is freaking hilarious.Ē

"Iím glad weíve elected a black man president; Iím sorry itís one who
looks quite so much like a sort of latter-day Manchurian Candidate
programmed by his hard-left associates to hate his own country."

"I bumped into him (Craig Mundie of Microsoft) in an elevator. I
looked at his badge and said, "ah, you work for Microsoft." He looked
back at me and said, "Oh ya, and what do you do?" And I thought it was
some kind of tad dismissive, here is a guy in a suit looking at a
scruffy hacker. . . so I gave him a thousand yard stare and said, "I
am your worst nightmare!"

.lnk to the past
May 3, 2005

psoting while drunk

BooLoo posted:

we shouldn't sully Woz by mentioning him in this thread

LP0 ON FIRE
Jan 25, 2006

beep boop


now i'm confused if Sham bam bamina's quote was for RMS or ESR

Sham bam bamina!
Nov 6, 2012

ƨtupid cat


LP0 ON FIRE posted:

now i'm confused if Sham bam bamina's quote was for RMS or ESR
http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=5001

LP0 ON FIRE
Jan 25, 2006

beep boop



ESR posted:

My forebrain, meanwhile, was all like ďWhat is up with you, hindbrain?Ē Apparently my human-recognition template needed some updating.

yes it is very out of date and you're using a lot of deprecated thought patterns

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008



i seriously do not understand why esr is free software famous or whatever

Migishu
Oct 22, 2005

I'll eat your fucking eyeballs if you're not careful



Grimey Drawer

hobbesmaster posted:

i seriously do not understand why esr is free software famous or whatever

ever ridden someones coat-tails?

esr is a professional coat-tail rider

LP0 ON FIRE
Jan 25, 2006

beep boop


drat i can't believe all the comments in that article. he has quite a cult going on. pretty disturbing

Knuc U Kinte
Aug 17, 2004



He has a cult because he's charismatic.

Egan Yardley
Jun 11, 2010



everyday i weep for the escorts that have seen and had to service esr's tiny turgid wiener

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

the old man
and the c


hobbesmaster posted:

i seriously do not understand why esr is free software famous or whatever

he wrote The Cathedral and the Bazzar

Sham bam bamina!
Nov 6, 2012

ƨtupid cat


Egan Yardley posted:

everyday i weep for the escorts that have seen and had to service esr's tiny turgid wiener
Actually, his penis is quite sizeable.

Egan Yardley
Jun 11, 2010



Sham bam bamina! posted:

Actually, his penis is quite sizeable.

Thank you for expanding my mind.

Fart.Bleed.Repeat.
Sep 29, 2001



lol if 1 and 2 are even realistic options around here


kill kill kill

LP0 ON FIRE
Jan 25, 2006

beep boop


so do you think some government agency is going to misinterpret this thread and come after all of us? we probably shouldn't say we want them... killed. to die, yeah

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008








computer toucher posted:

He's the most terrible of nerds, and since this is an internet community of nearly equally terrible nerds, it is required for us, for our own mental health and self-respect, to hate ESR for the uncomfortable realization that there, but for the grace of YOSPOS, go I.

so say we all

Deus Rex
Mar 4, 2005



Knuc U Kinte posted:

He has a cult because he's charismatic.

raruler
Oct 5, 2003

“Here lies a toppled god —
His fall was not a small one.
We did but build his pedestal,
A narrow and a tall one.”


rotor posted:

god I hate esr so much

yeah, his body of work, much like his body, is a flaming heap of garbage

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Trig Discipline
Jun 3, 2008

Please leave the room if you think this might offend you.


Grimey Drawer

gently caress you
marry christmas
kill you are self

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