couldn't we solve so many of the worlds problems with just for loops?

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	http://www.twentygoto10.com
	10 print PENUS 20 goto 10

LP0 ON FIRE: Jan 25, 2006; _{beep boop}

you can perform repetitive tasks with virtually no effort using for loops in just about any language. could we be doing the world much better with for loops, or have we exhausted those possibilities already and i just haven't realized it?

# ? Aug 10, 2014 19:11

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# ? Apr 16, 2024 17:34

LP0 ON FIRE: Jan 25, 2006; _{beep boop}

rotor please change poll to multiple choice, ty v much

# ? Aug 10, 2014 19:14

DONT THREAD ON ME: Oct 1, 2002; by Nyc_Tattoo; Floss Finder

i think the map function is more suited to operations performed on the world

# ? Aug 10, 2014 19:14

LP0 ON FIRE: Jan 25, 2006; _{beep boop}

what's a map function. like an html image map? i think that helps only a little

# ? Aug 10, 2014 19:15

Phobeste: Apr 9, 2006; never, like, count out Touchdown Tom, man

exit() suits me fine

# ? Aug 10, 2014 19:19

carry on then: Jul 10, 2010; by VideoGames
(and can't post for 10 years!)

cure cancer with this one weird old loop construct invented by a mom

# ? Aug 10, 2014 19:22

DONT THREAD ON ME: Oct 1, 2002; by Nyc_Tattoo; Floss Finder

i havent written a for or while loop in a year. if the problem cant be solved with a combination of mapping and folding then i'm doing it wrong and need to reapproach

# ? Aug 10, 2014 19:27

Valeyard: Mar 30, 2012; Grimey Drawer

USSMICHELLEBACHMAN posted:

i havent written a for or while loop in a year.

unlucky lol

functional languages ftl

# ? Aug 10, 2014 19:27

LP0 ON FIRE: Jan 25, 2006; _{beep boop}

what the frick is folding and mapping?

# ? Aug 10, 2014 19:28

Valeyard: Mar 30, 2012; Grimey Drawer

LP0 ON FIRE posted:

what the frick is folding and mapping?

realyl fail is what they are

# ? Aug 10, 2014 19:29

DONT THREAD ON ME: Oct 1, 2002; by Nyc_Tattoo; Floss Finder

lol if you need to invoke return or break from within your loop

# ? Aug 10, 2014 19:32

DONT THREAD ON ME: Oct 1, 2002; by Nyc_Tattoo; Floss Finder

code:

function make_world_a_better_place(world)
	for thing in world 
   		if thing == 'so poor, so black'
      			next
   		end 
   		do_things
	end
end

DONT THREAD ON ME fucked around with this message at 19:42 on Aug 10, 2014

# ? Aug 10, 2014 19:38

Valeyard: Mar 30, 2012; Grimey Drawer

code:

-module(hello).
-export([start/0]).

start() ->
   spawn(fun() -> loop() end).

loop() ->
   receive
      hello ->
         io:format("Hello, World!~n"),
         loop();
      
      goodbye ->
         ok
   end.

# ? Aug 10, 2014 19:42

Valeyard: Mar 30, 2012; Grimey Drawer

v readable lol

# ? Aug 10, 2014 19:42

DONT THREAD ON ME: Oct 1, 2002; by Nyc_Tattoo; Floss Finder

functional lanauges are indeed very confusing if you're not used to them

unlike iterative languages, which always make sense to people who have never programmed with them before

# ? Aug 10, 2014 19:44

The Management: Jan 2, 2010; sup, bitch?

LP0 ON FIRE posted:

what the frick is folding and mapping?

it's a way to hide for loops behind compiler nonsense

# ? Aug 10, 2014 19:45

DONT THREAD ON ME: Oct 1, 2002; by Nyc_Tattoo; Floss Finder

actually, loops are just a special case of the map function

# ? Aug 10, 2014 19:46

z0rlandi viSSer: Nov 5, 2013

life is one big for loop until death

makes u think

# ? Aug 10, 2014 19:55

DONT THREAD ON ME: Oct 1, 2002; by Nyc_Tattoo; Floss Finder

physics operate in a way much more akin to a functional language than an imperative language. because physics is based on, and math is all functions. and can you imagine if physics was iterative? you'd have to wait for the universe to run through am assive for loop before you could move your hand or something. lol.

also, the universe is lazily evaluate. so the answer to the question 'if a tree falls and the woods and no one is there to see it, does it make a sound?' is both yes and no. the actual answer is that the tree never even falls until someone shows up to observe that it fell.

# ? Aug 10, 2014 19:56

Otaku Alpha Male: Nov 11, 2012; bitches get ~tsundere~ when I pull out my katana

ill

make

the

WIKI!!

hah hah hha

# ? Aug 10, 2014 19:59

LP0 ON FIRE: Jan 25, 2006; _{beep boop}

USSMICHELLEBACHMAN posted:

physics operate in a way much more akin to a functional language than an imperative language. because physics is based on, and math is all functions. and can you imagine if physics was iterative? you'd have to wait for the universe to run through am assive for loop before you could move your hand or something. lol.

also, the universe is lazily evaluate. so the answer to the question 'if a tree falls and the woods and no one is there to see it, does it make a sound?' is both yes and no. the actual answer is that the tree never even falls until someone shows up to observe that it fell.

maybe we don't perceive the time it takes to make the loop. the hand movement isn't really separate from anything else. we don't individually choose to do anything

# ? Aug 10, 2014 20:11

The Management: Jan 2, 2010; sup, bitch?

until your computer stops retiring instructions sequentially, everything "functional" on top of that is pure wankery

# ? Aug 10, 2014 21:14

Sapozhnik: Jan 2, 2005; Nap Ghost

code:

    foreach (ForumThread thread in forums[219].Threads.Where(t => t.Poster.Name == "LP0 ON FIRE"))
    {
        thread.GasThread();
    }

# ? Aug 11, 2014 00:43

Pile Of Garbage: May 28, 2007

ForEach-Object

# ? Aug 11, 2014 12:32

Fart.Bleed.Repeat.: Sep 29, 2001

just billions of cases and switches

# ? Aug 11, 2014 13:23

A Wheezy Steampunk: Jul 16, 2006; High School Grads Eligible!

USSMICHELLEBACHMAN posted:

physics operate in a way much more akin to a functional language than an imperative language. because physics is based on, and math is all functions. and can you imagine if physics was iterative? you'd have to wait for the universe to run through am assive for loop before you could move your hand or something. lol.

also, the universe is lazily evaluate. so the answer to the question 'if a tree falls and the woods and no one is there to see it, does it make a sound?' is both yes and no. the actual answer is that the tree never even falls until someone shows up to observe that it fell.

makes u think

# ? Aug 11, 2014 13:40

Symbolic Butt: Mar 22, 2009; (_!_); Buglord

The Management posted:

what the frick is a for loop?

it's a way to hide gotos behind compiler nonsense

# ? Aug 11, 2014 13:53

nigga crab pollock: Mar 26, 2010; by Lowtax

fruity loops :mrgw:

# ? Aug 11, 2014 14:26

The Management: Jan 2, 2010; sup, bitch?

Symbolic Butt posted:

it's a way to hide gotos behind compiler nonsense

now you're getting it! a for is a test and branch loop, much like a goto with an if. a map is just a way to trick the developer into believing they are doing something other than a test and branch loop in the background.

# ? Aug 11, 2014 15:37

Locker Room Zubaz: Aug 8, 2006; ~*~THE SECRET OF THE MAGICAL CRYSTALS IS THAT I'M FUCKING TERRIBLE~*~

i think we should apply switch statements to this problem

# ? Aug 11, 2014 15:46

DONT THREAD ON ME: Oct 1, 2002; by Nyc_Tattoo; Floss Finder

Locker Room Zubaz posted:

i think we should apply switch statements to this problem

Yeah, the op should switch to posting in another forum!

# ? Aug 11, 2014 15:47

Mr. Glass: May 1, 2009

Locker Room Zubaz posted:

i think we should apply switch statements to this problem

why not both?

# ? Aug 11, 2014 15:48

LP0 ON FIRE: Jan 25, 2006; _{beep boop}

Mr. Glass posted:

why not both?

that is so strange looking but cool. look at all those pointers

# ? Aug 11, 2014 15:55

Locker Room Zubaz: Aug 8, 2006; ~*~THE SECRET OF THE MAGICAL CRYSTALS IS THAT I'M FUCKING TERRIBLE~*~

Mr. Glass posted:

why not both?

neat as gently caress

# ? Aug 11, 2014 16:31

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# ? Apr 16, 2024 17:34

Sapozhnik: Jan 2, 2005; Nap Ghost

and completely counterproductive when fed to any compiler written in the last 20 years

# ? Aug 11, 2014 17:08

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