X-Wing: Let's Fly Some Wangs

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Funzo: Dec 6, 2002

I'm just starting to get in to X-Wing, and I know what everyone is saying is in English, but holy poo poo I have no idea what anyone is talking about.
I'm beginning to get the hang of some of the abbreviations, and some of the strategies but from reading this and other forums, I'm thinking this is not something I'd ever want to play competitively.

# ¿ Jun 12, 2017 03:08

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# ¿ Apr 28, 2024 15:17

Funzo: Dec 6, 2002

Thanks for the replies all. Are there YouTube battle reports or something I should watch that actually explain what's happening. I more or less understand the rules, but I'm not good at figuring out why a particular list is better then another. It would be nice to see some games played out where they explain how everything interacts.

# ¿ Jun 12, 2017 17:18

Funzo: Dec 6, 2002

My only complaint about that format is that it doesn't list the ship, and N00bs like me don't know what pilot goes with what ship.

edit: I suppose I can just click the link and look. Never mind. I am an idiot.

# ¿ Jun 27, 2017 21:04

Funzo: Dec 6, 2002

Are there any other upcoming releases that have been announced? I'm wondering what, if anything, they'll debut at GenCon this year.

# ¿ Jun 28, 2017 18:45

Funzo: Dec 6, 2002

VikingPenguin posted:

Yeah, now that 11 will be out that will have to be the GenCon prerelease. It is a bit awkward, because they can't talk about the Last Jedi ships that will come out, what, two weeks after GenCon?

I'm guessing they're going to focus on the Legend of the Five Rings card game they have coming out at GenCon, rather then X Wing stuff.

# ¿ Jun 28, 2017 20:25

Funzo: Dec 6, 2002

I got the deep-well version of that Stanley box. If you've got access to a 3d printer, you can make containers for individual ships that also hold a few tokens and the ship dial. They're designed to fit in that case.

# ¿ Jun 30, 2017 22:09

Funzo: Dec 6, 2002

I'm hoping FF has a pile of older stuff at their booth at GenCon. I can't find a K-Wing anywhere, locally, or online

# ¿ Jul 9, 2017 02:49

Funzo: Dec 6, 2002

My 11 yr. old kid wants to get in to X-Wing, and I haven't been playing long enough to be good at list building. Any ideas for a good beginner Scum list? Something not to complicated to fly and good for learning the rules.

# ¿ Jul 22, 2017 16:34

Funzo: Dec 6, 2002

I don't understand, how can ships not give any sort of Margin of Victory? How is the rule broken? Maybe I'm just not grasping what everyone is talking about.

# ¿ Jul 23, 2017 13:10

Funzo: Dec 6, 2002

thespaceinvader posted:

Take a game where you're flying against Corran and Miranda.

You can load enough damage into them to kill them both 3 times over and gain no points.

Miranda is harder to kill than any Jumpmaster except Dengar, and can cost over 50 points. You don't get points for half of her, but you do for half of a Lambda.

Because of their regen abilities? If they end the game with less then half hull/shields, you would get those points right? Is it that it's much harder to get them below half because of those abilities?

# ¿ Jul 23, 2017 16:19

Funzo: Dec 6, 2002

thespaceinvader posted:

No.

Small ships do not give half points, ever.

Oh, ok. That makes more sense then. So the big issue is high hull/shield small ships, especially with regen abilities. I think I get the problem now.

# ¿ Jul 23, 2017 16:32

Funzo: Dec 6, 2002

Did Minefield Mapper ever become a thing? I know pre-release there was a lot of theory around using it.

# ¿ Aug 1, 2017 22:25

Funzo: Dec 6, 2002

Some friends and I are planning a single ship free-for-all. The rules are 1 small ship, 35 point limit, no unique cards, and shield/hull points can't total more then 9.
I've played the least out of all of them, so actually winning is pretty unlikely. Instead, I'm thinking TIE Punisher.
Cutlass Squadron Pilot-APT-Unguided Rockets-Conner Net-Twin Ion Engine Mk. II. Maybe cruise missles instead of rockets, or a different bomb option. Any other fun Imperial builds I should be thinking about?

# ¿ Aug 8, 2017 22:36

Funzo: Dec 6, 2002

I do really like Intercepters. Thanks for the suggestions.

# ¿ Aug 9, 2017 00:31

Funzo: Dec 6, 2002

Two of the guys in the final fly at the same store as a friend of mine. Milwaukee x-wing represent I guess.

# ¿ Aug 20, 2017 00:32

Funzo: Dec 6, 2002

They're out of print and sold out everywhere. I tried to find one a few weeks ago, and nobody has one unless you want to go eBay.

# ¿ Aug 27, 2017 13:11

Funzo: Dec 6, 2002

Are there any Warhammer games they used to put out they could have adapted for Star Wars? Might as well put them to use after losing the GW license.

# ¿ Aug 28, 2017 20:00

Funzo: Dec 6, 2002

I'd like to start playing competitively, but still have a fun list. I'm looking at mostly just store events and stuff like that. Any thoughts on this list?

Omega Leader w/ Comm Relay, Juke
The Inquisitor w/ PTL, Cruise MIssles, TIE/v1
Whisper w/ Rebel Captive, Fire-Control System, Veteran Instincts, Advanced Cloaking Device

I'm only using stuff I've actually got cards for, which is a little limiting, but I've got a least one copy of most stuff at this point.

# ¿ Sep 12, 2017 19:24

Funzo: Dec 6, 2002

ConfusedUs posted:

Autothrusters is basically an auto-include for Inquisitor. He wants to always be at range 3. Proxy or borrow the card.

Proton Rockets are probably better than Cruise Missiles on Inquisitor, because, again, he wants to stay at range 3. Prockets are a huge deterrent to people trying to get into his face. They can let him hang out at long range where he's strongest...or get hosed up by Prockets.

I'd rather have Autothrusters than either missile on Inquisitor.

Omega Leader is perfect, and Whisper is pretty good. Only the crew is up for debate there, but Rebel Captive isn't a bad choice.

Possible alternatives to Rebel Captive include Recon Specialist, Agent Kallus, Gunner (if you can find the points) and Intelligence Agent. An Intel agent would free up the points you need for Autothrusters on Inquisitor and you can still keep the missile.

Awesome, thanks. I'll get rid of the missile and put in Autothrusters. My oldest is learning to fly Scum, so I guess I can always get a Starviper and borrow the card.

# ¿ Sep 12, 2017 21:41

Funzo: Dec 6, 2002

Fantasy Flight is listing K-Wings as "on the boat" so I may actually be able to get my hands on one.

# ¿ Oct 10, 2017 14:37

Funzo: Dec 6, 2002

A friend and I are planning on playing a fun fluff game. The idea being lots of dogfighting and piles of ships. Here's what I'm looking at:

100 points

Darth Vader [TIE/x1, Swarm Leader, Sensor Jammer] (32)

Black Squadron Pilot [Crack Shot] (15) x 2

Obsidian Squadron Pilot (13) x 2

Academy Pilot (12)

I think he's playing a stripped down A,X, and Y-wing list, maybe with turrets on Y-Wings.

I mainly just want Vader and a pile of TIEs. Perfect points efficiency isn't really the goal.

# ¿ Oct 12, 2017 22:08

Funzo: Dec 6, 2002

Baron Fuzzlewhack posted:

Tentative confirmation from our distributor: Waves 12 and 13 release next week. (e: tentative because preorders are due by 11/6 anyway . No telling what this means anymore with Alliance)

Also there's a missing SKU: SWX71 doesn't have anything assigned to it. 68 is Resistance Bomber, 69 is TIE Silencer, 70 is the Kimogila fighter, 72 is the Phantom II, 73 is Guns for Hire. 71 is just randomly sitting empty in the middle of wave 12.

Shouldn't that be the Alpha-class gunboat?

# ¿ Oct 30, 2017 18:44

Funzo: Dec 6, 2002

Huh. Welp, time for some baseless speculation then. Maybe it's something from the next movie they're keeping secret until it gets released.

# ¿ Oct 30, 2017 18:54

Funzo: Dec 6, 2002

Played a game this weekend with dumb fluff lists. It was my Darth + 5 TIE list vs. an AAXXY list of all rookie pilots. Neither of us had played in a while, so we got a couple of rules wrong, but it was a lot of fun. It cam down to my Academy Pilot TIE vs. his rookie Y-Wing. I lost my TIE, his Y-Wing had 1 hull left.

# ¿ Oct 30, 2017 19:13

Funzo: Dec 6, 2002

enigmahfc posted:

I have no idea who posted/suggested this Death Train build, but holy gently caress its my new favorite thing.
"Deathrain" � TIE Punisher 26
Advanced Sensors 3
Unguided Rockets 2
Bomblet Generator 3
Lightweight Frame 2
Ship Total: 36

One bomblet drop killed 3 ships. Granted, 1 was my other TIE Bomber because I misjudged, but it was still awesome. Drop a Bomblet out the front, barrel roll away, Adv. Sensor to a focus, then 4K behind enemy ships....feels good. And at PS 6 it doesn't feel OP and I don't feel like a dick playing it.
This will never work in a 'competitive'setting, but I have a feeling I am going to try and make this work in a 'competitive' setting.

Let me see if I have the order correct. I'm still learning everything, so bear with me.

1. Use Adv. Sensors, gain a focus
2. Reveal 4K on dial
3 That triggers bomblet generator, which you launch out the front.
4. barrel-roll, due to pilot ability
5. execute the 4K move.

Does that sound right? I'm terrible at figuring out how abilities all work together.

# ¿ Oct 30, 2017 20:54

Funzo: Dec 6, 2002

I was looking at that Deathrain Aces list that got posted earlier, and I wanted to give it a try. However, since I don't have all the cards for the Vader build, I was going to try subbing in Quickdraw with the title+FCS+LF. I've still got 3 points left, but don't know what if anything I should add in. Any suggestions? Is there a better sub for Vader in that list?

# ¿ Oct 31, 2017 20:58

Funzo: Dec 6, 2002

Devlan Mud posted:

So, some speculation for System Open 2018:

Adepticon's preregistration event lists has System Open Stage 1 at 300 people on Friday from 10-3:30, then System Open Stage 2 for 128 from 4:30-9:00. Then Finals for 28 on Saturday from 10-3:30. So it looks like the two-days of qualifiers are out.

There's also Hyperspace Qualifiers on both Thursday and Saturday for 128 people, so I'm guessing we're also getting X-Wing versions of the Galactic Qualifiers that were announced for Destiny yesterday. If that's the case, looks like they'd be 7 rounds of swiss and the undefeated player gets a spot at Worlds.

I saw that too. Some friends and I are going to try and sign up for the open. I'll get crushed in the first round, but it will be a fun experience anyway. I may very well play the Deathrain Aces jankmaster list.

# ¿ Nov 9, 2017 20:23

Funzo: Dec 6, 2002

ConfusedUs posted:

Do itttttt

It's not quite that list. I swapped out Quickdraw for Darth.
It's either that or the Whisper/Inquisitor/Omega Leader list I like.

# ¿ Nov 9, 2017 23:40

Funzo: Dec 6, 2002

So what do you all like in your RAClo build? I'm thinking of adding in Darth+Mara Jade.

# ¿ Nov 15, 2017 01:55

Funzo: Dec 6, 2002

canyoneer posted:

Rear Admiral Chiraneau (46)
Veteran Instincts (1)
Emperor Palpatine (8)
Kylo Ren (3)
Engine Upgrade (4)
Dauntless (2)

Total: 64

View in Yet Another Squad Builder

I think that's the best RAC. Vader with ATC/Engine is base 34 points, so you can drop Dauntless if you want to run Vader and want to run a good EPT like predator.

I don't have Palp, so yeah, I was planning on Vader+Predator instead. What to pair with it? Right now, I want to try out Countess Ryad with Juke/Tie x/7 title and TIEv2.

# ¿ Nov 15, 2017 03:01

Funzo: Dec 6, 2002

Apparently a friend of mine ran this in a game last night and crushed a Scum Nym list:

quote:

- RAC w/ Kylo, Gunner, Systems Officer, Title
- Tomax Bren (TIE Bomber) w/ Extra Mun, Harpoon Missile, Harpoon Missile, Seismic Charges, Crack Shot (which Tomax gets to flip back up every turn), Guidance Chips

# ¿ Nov 17, 2017 21:09

Funzo: Dec 6, 2002

I wonder if it would be worth it to put Trajectory Simulator on a TIE Punisher with bomblet generator.

# ¿ Nov 22, 2017 16:39

Funzo: Dec 6, 2002

Why would Threat Tracker work with VI well? If it works during combat, are you hoping it activates after you'd already attacked in that round?

# ¿ Nov 29, 2017 01:08

Funzo: Dec 6, 2002

I'm planning on taking this to a mini-tournament tomrorrow.

�Deathrain� (33)
TIE Punisher (26), Collision Detector (0), Unguided Rockets (2), Bomblet Generator (3), Lightweight Frame (2)

The Inquisitor (31)
TIE Advanced Prototype (25), Push the Limit (3), TIE/v1 (1), Autothrusters (2)

�Quickdraw� (36)
Special Forces TIE (29), Veteran Instincts (1), Fire-Control System (2), Pattern Analyzer (2), Special Ops Training (0), Lightweight Frame (2)

Any obvious holes? I'm not sure what the best way to approach flying this is going to be. I had planned on just shoving Deathrain at things and sniping with the other two.

# ¿ Dec 1, 2017 17:01

Funzo: Dec 6, 2002

Thanks for the pointers. I hadn't thought of the debris thing, that will help for sure.

# ¿ Dec 1, 2017 22:42

Funzo: Dec 6, 2002

Played a few games with that Deathrain/Inquisitor/Quickdraw list I posted earlier and it did not go well for me. It was my fault, I just couldn't get the strategy to work. Deathrain kept getting stuck out in the middle of nothing, while the Inquisitor would up in a ball in the middle of the board. I think I need to find something that suits my playing style a little more. I think the TIE Silencer is going to be fun to play around with.

# ¿ Dec 3, 2017 14:54

Funzo: Dec 6, 2002

I will always be happy there�s a rebel pilot named after a Beastie Boys album.

# ¿ Dec 18, 2017 02:48

Funzo: Dec 6, 2002

I think I might have to put together some kind of 2 gunboat alpha strike list to play around with. Any pointers? Does it need a 3rd ship like Quickdraw or something?

# ¿ Dec 18, 2017 19:47

Funzo: Dec 6, 2002

I'm thinking about a two Gunboat alpha list, since it sounds like it could be fun. Am I on the right track here?

99 points

Nu Squadron Pilot (30) x 2
Alpha-class Star Wing (18), XG-1 Assault Configuration (1), Extra Munitions (2), Harpoon Missiles (4), Guidance Chips (0), Autoblaster (5), Ion Cannon (3)

�Quickdraw� (39)
Special Forces TIE (29), Veteran Instincts (1), Fire-Control System (2), Cruise Missiles (3), Pattern Analyzer (2), Special Ops Training (0), Lightweight Frame (2)

# ¿ Dec 31, 2017 22:22

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# ¿ Apr 28, 2024 15:17

Funzo: Dec 6, 2002

ConfusedUs posted:

Quickdraw is fine (might want Harpoon instead of Cruise), but your gunboats are way too heavily loaded. You'll never use autoblaster, ion, AND the missiles in the same game.

You either want three Nu Squads with Harpoons/chips/title, or you want to go up to Rhos with Harpoons/chips/maybe extra munitions, and an EPT like predator or deadeye.

I'm not sure why Ion Cannon showed up, since that's not even in the list. Quirk of the list builder I guess. In any case, I re-built things.

98 points

PILOTS

Rho Squadron Veteran (30) x 2
Alpha-class Star Wing (21), Predator (3), OS-1 Arsenal Loadout (2), Harpoon Missiles (4), Guidance Chips (0)

�Quickdraw� (38)
Special Forces TIE (29), Veteran Instincts (1), Fire-Control System (2), Harpoon Missiles (4), Special Ops Training (0), Lightweight Frame (2)

# ¿ Jan 3, 2018 02:58

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