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i think a good goal in life to have is to try not to get beheaded
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# ¿ Aug 15, 2014 04:29 |
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# ¿ Apr 26, 2024 18:26 |
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ya uh op you shouldn't have led with that video. unless this is an ogrish style thread. you have to break a few apostate eggs to make an islamic omelette, that's just periphery stuff. there's more to talk about than the savagery required to completely upheave a large culturally significant and important region in the world.
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# ¿ Aug 15, 2014 04:33 |
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Power_of_the_glory posted:You know, even Nazis had the good sense to at least try to hide their atrocities. ISIS posts theirs on the internet for all the world to see. makes you wonder
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# ¿ Aug 15, 2014 05:22 |
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maybe violence begets violence or some poo poo like that, who knows really.
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# ¿ Aug 15, 2014 05:30 |
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Zzulu posted:why does the AK make all those cool muzzle flashes while the other gun (m16??) doesnt It doesn't have a flash suppressor, which is 4 evenly distributed vents on the end of the barrel of the m16.
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# ¿ Aug 16, 2014 14:54 |
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Ar-15 really..not a gun nut maybe it's something else. But Ar-15 is the civilian version of the M-16.
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# ¿ Aug 16, 2014 15:00 |
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They took down the recruitment video that makes ISIS almost look civilized or at least organized, but they leave up their atrocity greatest hits compilation. Youtube/Google have strong ties with the intelligence "community" so I wouldn't put it past anyone for this selective censoring to be intentional.
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# ¿ Aug 16, 2014 22:48 |
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THS posted:some kind of weird rear end sunni state in western iraq and syria would probably be better in the long run than whatever were trying to do propping up the fiction of iraq. lmao if you think isis is going to spread out of sunni areas in any serious way 90% of Muslims in the world are Sunni. It's only in Iraq that they are majority Shia. ISIS have big dreams.
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# ¿ Aug 17, 2014 00:39 |
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A Typical Goon posted:You're forgetting about a pretty big country bro Iran, sorry..posting and thinking ought to go together sometimes. Anyway ISIS is never going to set foot in Iran. My point was more that ISIS could be a lightning rod for disaffected Sunni youth all over the world if they can continue to show they are around to stay.
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# ¿ Aug 17, 2014 05:04 |
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Well the Arab ones at least. I don't think Indonesians and Malaysians really give a drat about Arab adventures. My point is this is a big deal guys. I'm no expert but this looks like the first stages of the middle east being completely remade. Maybe not in this form, it's too early, but the total upheaval has started. It's not going to return to business as usual. the worst thing is fucked around with this message at 05:17 on Aug 17, 2014 |
# ¿ Aug 17, 2014 05:06 |
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I am saying that ISIS is a significant presence and that the US should not invade. But should continue backing up the Kurds to keep the balance of power. Because if they don't, poo poo really starts to get real for every single minority group that isn't the exactly correct brand of Sunni Muslim that they are looking for. And then every country under ISIS control will have State Department travel bans on them for the next 10+ years, and worse. The world will have a real mess on their hands. And basically everything I just said is what the Western powers are already doing. Doesn't it feel good to toe the party line
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# ¿ Aug 17, 2014 05:29 |
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The Brown Menace posted:alternative mirror for the beheading video Welllll he went out strong which I guess is the best you can do in that situation. Seems like they really drilled it into him that he was going to die that day and he accepted his fate. Idk. RIP american dude
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# ¿ Aug 19, 2014 23:42 |
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news cycle? ISIS=bad and everyone hates them american little knife, maximum brutality the explicit threats against america in the video, when the US is barely involved in this poo poo (yet). like they want a fight, not are trying to avoid one. those are the reasons as i see it.
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# ¿ Aug 20, 2014 03:36 |
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peace through superior firepower
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# ¿ Aug 20, 2014 04:27 |
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There's no good guys anywhere when it comes to groups of people with guns. There's just winners and losers. HTH I mean I think America's the best country in the world, but I certainly don't think we are the "good guys". I just root for my side like a common partisan.
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# ¿ Aug 21, 2014 07:02 |
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Kirk Johnson posted:Liveleak is pussing out of showing any more IS vids: a small amount of justice still exists in this world then.
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# ¿ Aug 21, 2014 21:54 |
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No respect for the dead and soon to be dead in this thread huh.. Or is this the "either everythings sacred or nothing is" motif. I prefer to at least be partisan about my bloodlust. gently caress the other guys but its sad when its americans.
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# ¿ Aug 22, 2014 00:38 |
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THS posted:you are a piece of poo poo hth I mean, on what basis can you ridicule *everyone* caught in a war zone. Ridiculing them, or ridiculing us I can understand, but everyone? How. Most of them don't have a choice. Americans do..but they're our guys. ISIS does too but they're religious zealots and there's a certain logic to their actions even if it is on the whole irrational and barbaric. How do any of you know you wouldn't act any differently in the same situation. Forced to pick a side. What would you do.
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# ¿ Aug 22, 2014 00:42 |
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The Brown Menace posted:same but the reverse And afterwards hit up the allahu snackbar amirite? I dunno, at least you're consistent. But rooting for the terrorists is about to be real bad news, like federal crime bad. We've found our enemy.
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# ¿ Aug 22, 2014 00:48 |
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THS posted:how old are you 29 and I served (USMCR). Is my point too simple to be reasonable or something?
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# ¿ Aug 22, 2014 00:52 |
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I guess we all get our bloodlust out on the internet and then go about our daily mundane lives and asking people to use the correct pronouns and respect our rights and feelings. And maybe the SJW's just all take it on the chin at their Starbucks jobs and only agitate online and to each other. Seems like that's the way of the world these days. No one's got any actual fire except for those with skin in the game. Our societal problems are too far removed from daily life. /tangent
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# ¿ Aug 22, 2014 00:56 |
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THS posted:no i just wonder how you can say something as dumb as "But rooting for the terrorists is about to be real bad news, like federal crime bad. We've found our enemy." in the tyool 2014 The political climate in this country could get a whole lot worse than it is now. If ironically supporting militant jihadis is how you want to spend your intellectual energy, fine, but the government takes and will take that kind of thing real seriously. Visits from the FBI seriously. And there's no reason for it. There's a line between free speech and making GBS threads on everything you see because you're allowed to. Just in general. People stick within the letter of the law but not the spirit oftentimes. I just find ironically supporting beheadings by fundamentalist muslims distasteful. There's no catharsis there, just nihilism behind a computer screen.
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# ¿ Aug 22, 2014 01:01 |
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Fandyien posted:you're probably rthe dumbest person in GBS and that is a sgnificant accomplishment Anything I say online I would say in person with the proper forum. I just don't think many of you are the same way. Desecrating the name of an american citizen that got beheaded. And for what? Why?
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# ¿ Aug 22, 2014 01:04 |
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Fandyien posted:how do you get "i support ISIS" from THS posting things about it not being a good idea to bomb them I'm only talking about the last page or two. I generally agree with THS, I am just responding to him because he said I was stupid for saying just laughing at an entire conflict from afar is distasteful.
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# ¿ Aug 22, 2014 01:06 |
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Kyrie eleison posted:obviously these people are scum but i think we should all take a moment to just remember how much we love all death and suffering and really enjoy like gore pics and poo poo like that. also hatred, the way hatred really courses through you at something, and the moment you take revenge and watch your enemy realize he has lost and break down crying in cowardice and he knows that the torture has not even begun and will never stop despite his pleas for mercy I can at least understand this. Revel in your hatred and wish for pain, at least admit that that's what is going on. I feel it at times when I read about ISIS. At a different time in my life I would have signed up for the CIA like yesterday. But to treat it all as another subject to joke about? gently caress that. People are dying. Have some respect, even in anonymity.
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# ¿ Aug 22, 2014 01:10 |
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THS posted:this is literally the only time i will ever say anything good about police officers, but this applies to EMTs i know as well. if you hang around people who see a lot of hosed up poo poo, the humor gets pretty loving dark, because theres no way to loving deal with it mentally if you are going to be a serious shaming sally They are coping. Are you coping? Are you talking to others who are coping? Wheres your place in all this. Some things should be off limits, even on the edgiest of edgy forums on the internet. Laughing at someone who got beheaded in a war zone, yea that might be one. Absolutely no reason for that except you're anonymous and can revel in the insanity. This is the kind of poo poo Lowtax should clamp down on if anything, this thread and its discussion. He doesn't like the racism, what about this. Have some respect for *something*, anything at all. It's a race to the bottom otherwise.
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# ¿ Aug 22, 2014 01:15 |
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THS posted:*posts in a forum that turned 9/11 into a sick joke the day of* This is true. I also liked tribute.wmv. This seems different. You can see the guys face as he dies. Idk. Forget it.
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# ¿ Aug 22, 2014 01:17 |
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Kyrie eleison posted:you are totally right to appeal to human decency but like this crowd doesn't understand that and i'm afraid the only solution for them is Death Eh just checking to see where everyone's head is at. I am aware of the irony of a veteran being the one to do it. Takes one to know one and I don't see anything familiar in this thread. Military members at least show respect in the abstract. Maybe that's not totally true either though.
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# ¿ Aug 22, 2014 01:27 |
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The Brown Menace posted:at least we got foley's accounted for IS has his head. His wife and family will never see him again.
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# ¿ Aug 22, 2014 01:33 |
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The Brown Menace posted:he was just too good at giving head, i guess You're just debasing yourself. Lookin out for you buddy, you don't need to stoop this low THS posted:another way to look at it is that while its super hosed up what happened to foley, he was a war reporter in syria who had been captured in libya before, with full knowledge of the risk he was taking - making it less hosed up than a million other tragedies that happened on the same day without the media spotlight Agree with this 100% Revelling in war porn is senseless and debasing and you all know it though. Even liveleak is seeing that now. Nothing is taught, nothing is learned. Just eating poo poo and telling yourself it is nourishing. Not you THS, just in general. The last thread was better when it didn't lead with beheadings. I said this on the first page even.
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# ¿ Aug 22, 2014 01:47 |
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Or maybe they all got cucked at home and couldnt take it anymore?? Lets scrape that barrel a lil more
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# ¿ Aug 22, 2014 04:09 |
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VikingSkull posted:Marines get cucked on the reg Yes they do, but at the same time many just get married for the increased pay. Military marriages are rarely destined to last.
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# ¿ Aug 22, 2014 04:14 |
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THS posted:if u get gay married do u get more pay I think so, i got out before all that. Get married to your fireteam buddy, share a guardpost and a rack too! Edit i dont think a single marine will find that funny the worst thing is fucked around with this message at 04:20 on Aug 22, 2014 |
# ¿ Aug 22, 2014 04:18 |
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Iseeyouseemeseeyou posted:i'll be honest though i'd much prefer muslim-thai food what is muslim-thai food? i've never been down to the malaysian border over wherever the hell.
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# ¿ Aug 22, 2014 06:34 |
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you irl posted:so do they have no air power at all? no surface to air, no nothing but rifles? that's like dropping a bomb on a fish in a barrel the only equipment that can shoot down american jets are wayy out of their reach at present. for example - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-300_%28missile%29 too expensive, too difficult to hide, they need lots of them and the support network that they require. just like how that malaysian flight was shot down over ukraine and the russian rebels said "it couldn't have been us, we don't have the capability". they couldn't shoot anything up to 30,000 feet. also using AA in general requires training and expertise that the rebels probably don't have. i remember in the kosovo war the serbs shot down a b-2 bomber with a flak cannon i think. basically nothing handheld could shoot down a fighter jet, and anything that could they would have to purchase somehow, through legitimate channels, not loot.
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# ¿ Aug 23, 2014 00:59 |
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you irl posted:so 60,000 dudes that we can literally just fly in circles over and bomb at our leisure because there's no endgame to getting rid of ISIS. what are we going to do, install another "unity government" in iraq after ISIS is gone? the alternative to keeping a shaky balance of power in Iraq is another power vacuum. right now that vacuum is filled by ISIS, but would start all over again if we started bombing them to high hell. there are other groups waiting in the wings. Al-Nusra, for one.
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# ¿ Aug 23, 2014 02:34 |
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The Droid posted:That shot was one-in-a-million levels though. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_F-117A_shootdown quote:Unknown to NATO, Yugoslav air defenses operators had found they could detect F-117s with their "obsolete" Soviet radars after some modifications.[2] In 2005, Colonel Zoltán Dani confirmed in an interview suggested that those modifications involved using long wavelengths, allowing them to detect the aircraft when the wheel well or bomb bay doors were open.[3] In addition, the Serbs had also intercepted and deciphered some NATO communications, and thus were able to deploy their anti-air batteries at positions best suited to intercept NATO planes.[3] also Foes now friends: US stealth pilot and the Serb who shot him down the worst thing is fucked around with this message at 02:40 on Aug 23, 2014 |
# ¿ Aug 23, 2014 02:36 |
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The Brown Menace posted:JaN isn't really a player in iraq, though your overall assessment is correct. unless sunnis, shiites and kurds split the state, vanquishing the IS will only lead to more successor organizations but they were supposed to be, seeing as their former name was "Al Qaeda in Iraq".
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# ¿ Aug 23, 2014 02:41 |
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The Brown Menace posted:but AQI merged into ISIL, then ISIS, then just the IS, and JaN is stuck as a sideshow in syria, part of al qaeda which has no aspirations as a state and disawoved ISIL/ISIS/the IS ok
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# ¿ Aug 23, 2014 02:51 |
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# ¿ Apr 26, 2024 18:26 |
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you irl posted:i was less wondering 'why hasn't american military intervention led to peace and stability in iraq' and more wondering 'how are we half-assing this bombing campaign so bad that the worlds most ludicrously overpowered air power can't kill a bunch of dudes that literally cannot fight back at all' not that i know the answer to this, but i think it has more to do how rarely they present themselves as targets. and when they do it depends on good intelligence, both in the air and on the ground to find them and do the deed. and sometimes they just hit too fast and slink back into the night and no one can do anything about it. the wonders of guerilla warfare.
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# ¿ Aug 23, 2014 03:30 |