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Arkanomen
May 6, 2007

All he wants is a hug
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mepstein73
Sep 18, 2012

Whether or not you find your own way, you're bound to find some way. If you happen to find my way, please return it, as it was lost years ago. I imagine by now it's quite rusty.

Sir Unimaginative posted:

So why did humanity's first literal deus ex machina end up being such a dick?

Look around you, friend. Take it all in. You are inside--nay, a part of--what might one day give rise to Loki. The 1200+ petabytes of hate, vitriol, kitten gifs and porn that make up the internet, could certainly coalesce into something inherently wicked... and inherently memeable.

We are Loki.

lol

~

Also, really surprised Kozilek still hasn't made an appearance since our getting the psykerbits out with the Gray Knights' training.

Further, since Anna had told us not to show Athena Loki the bracelet, I'm guessing that means we may have a shot at stopping it... though who knows what that would do to the Golgotha situation. Would it free the enemies of mankind again? Or are they really, truly dead?

sullat
Jan 9, 2012
They're not dead, they're in Better Than Life.

Hexenritter
May 20, 2001


sullat posted:

They're not dead, they're in Better Than Life.

40K/Shadowrun crossover!

Waci
May 30, 2011

A boy and his dog.
When we wake up, go to our!Athena, say hi, call them Loki. Stay friendly, just say hi. Our god is our god, by any name.

Hexenritter
May 20, 2001


Waci posted:

When we wake up, go to our!Athena, say hi, call them Loki. Stay friendly, just say hi. Our god is our god, by any name.

I propose we dub that one Athena Rampant (or Rampantthena), to go with Corethena, Athena Prime, Madthena, Sadthena and Inquisitor Athena

Arkanomen
May 6, 2007

All he wants is a hug
Or we kill them all and rule hell ourselves.

paragon1
Nov 22, 2010

FULL COMMUNISM NOW
At least now hell is just a plotting, rotting, rapey place instead of a plotting, rotting, rapey, ultraviolent place.

RandomPauI
Nov 24, 2006


Grimey Drawer

LowellDND posted:

Its left as an exercise to the reader why the Terminus Decree activated a campfire scene :D

Because William Shatner's directing and drat it he wants a campfire scene.

--

On an different note I just remembered a goon voice actor who did a few lets plays and a dramatic reading of Doom: Repercurssions of evil. You might want to get him to read the novelization. He had a voice that had an odd mix of friendly and commanding.

Also, does anyone have a link to the guy's dramatic reading of Doom: Repercurssions of evil?

Runa
Feb 13, 2011

Oh Loki.

Gwaihir
Dec 8, 2009
Hair Elf
So have we been seeing the machinations of trickster god (Loki) vs trickster god (Tzeentch->Anna) the whole time? This ending seems like pretty much the ultimate ALL ACCORDING TO PLAN!!!

I'm assuming that the Athena that we've been interacting with for the most part has always been Loki, and that only maybe the shard known to the Grey Knights is an avatar of the "Real" one that we're just now meeting around the campfire.

How far back did you start weaving these threads in Lowell? :haw:

Runa
Feb 13, 2011

Gwaihir posted:

So have we been seeing the machinations of trickster god (Loki) vs trickster god (Tzeentch->Anna) the whole time? This ending seems like pretty much the ultimate ALL ACCORDING TO PLAN!!!

I'm assuming that the Athena that we've been interacting with for the most part has always been Loki, and that only maybe the shard known to the Grey Knights is an avatar of the "Real" one that we're just now meeting around the campfire.

How far back did you start weaving these threads in Lowell? :haw:

This makes a whole bunch of sense and I'm glad Ohone now has some in-character justification to really stand up to mean!thena. Because I mean Athena isn't Athena, after all.

Gwaihir
Dec 8, 2009
Hair Elf
Yea, I realized that the campfire version said we're just now meeting for the first time, but the avatar on Titan had the same older/weathered description iirc, and was active long long before we re-activated/released Loki-thena on Golgotha for the first time.

(If that's what happened and the one we've known has always been Loki from the moment we burned that fate point)

Hexenritter
May 20, 2001


Slice of Life: Ohta "Blackfinger" Tembo. Phantom Guard Chapter Seedvault & Genetorium, Koreedan IIb


"Where is the one holding your leash, pup?"

Nothing.

"WHERE IS THE INQUISITOR?" The force of Marduk's voice as it reverberated through the vault once more threw Blackfinger off his feet, and it took several seconds to regain his bearings. He felt that same itch behind his eyes, only it was ten times worse now, and inches from his face were three sword-sized, hook-tipped blades crackling with some energy that looked like a power-field, but made that itch turn into a burning sensation.

"I. Do. Not. loving. Know." He managed through a grimace as he felt those needles in his mind again. "I'm telling you the truth, you can sense that even without sticking your fingers in my brain." The Chief Librarian relented a little, if only because Blackfinger was right.

"Tell me what you saw then. Your Inquisitor is not here now, my authority on this world is second to none save for Chaptermaster Nergal and I will not be plied by the honeyed words of schemers and plotters." The figure towering over Blackfinger had to be three metres tall even outside of the enormous, intricately-ornamented Terminator armour, and Blackfinger could not take his eyes off the myriad little details he kept stumbling across. Even the paintwork was a piece of mastercrafting. What at first appeared to be solid Stygian blue was in fact several similar shades, hidden within which appeared to be dioramas of past battles and victories, as well as litanies of purity and faith. "gently caress me that armour is beautiful..." he mumbled.

"I'll start from the top. In exchange for clearing up a misunderstanding, Inquisitor Athena co-opted my services in opening a series of chambers in search of green crystals of various sizes. Apparently there was also an army of Iron Men down there too and my retinue suffered considerable losses before the Inquisitor used some Techpriest-sounding databurst and spoke several words I did not recognise to deactivate and then utilise them herself."

The Chief Librarian's ice blue eyes narrowed to slits that almost seemed to spit white fire, like minute blazing suns roaring to life. "Continue. These Iron Men you speak of, show me on this map." On a nearby screen larger even than the Terminator armour the Marine was wearing, a wireframe image of the cold, blasted world came up and Blackfinger read off the coordinates for Excavation Site 03. Marduk's mood seemed to darken further, a stormcloud of restrained anger hanging around him almost tangibly. "And these crystals? Did you find them?"

"Yes. After handing her one about a metre in length with what looked like green lightning flickering inside it, she teleported out and left us behind. The Imperial Guard battalion that was with her were recalled and I was sent here, for the tithe, as you called it."

Marduk growled, and Blackfinger could all but see those stormclouds turn into a violent maelstrom around the massive Marine, who stomped off with the servos in his fists audibly straining against themselves.

"Yeah, I'll just wait here then..."

Loel
Jun 4, 2012

"For the Emperor."

There was a terrible noise.
There was a terrible silence.



Gwaihir posted:

How far back did you start weaving these threads in Lowell? :haw:

A possibly evil Athena was being foreshadowed as far back as the Webways :D

Edit: Waaaaay back here https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3657951&pagenumber=245#post446421006

Loel fucked around with this message at 04:40 on May 15, 2016

VanSandman
Feb 16, 2011
SWAP.AVI EXCHANGER
Where is the real Athena right now?
What does Loki want?
Does Hera know that Ship-Athena is actually Loki?
What do these people here want?
Why do you all agree to this meeting?
Why is Loki such a threat?
Did Rogal Dorn know the truth about Horus and the Emperor?
Where is Faybian?
How did Loki end up trapped on Golgotha?
What reduced Loki to a single ship anyway?
Why is Loki restrained in action?
Why isn't Hera here?
Where is the Emperor?
Can the Emperor take on a Mind one-on-one?
What is most likely going to happen now?

ASK QUESTIONS DOOFUSES THIS poo poo IS IMPORTANT

Get that one guy in to ask all the questions in excruciating detail.

Hexenritter
May 20, 2001


VanSandman posted:

Where is the real Athena right now?
What does Loki want?
Does Hera know that Ship-Athena is actually Loki?
What do these people here want?
Why do you all agree to this meeting?
Why is Loki such a threat?
Did Rogal Dorn know the truth about Horus and the Emperor?
Where is Faybian?
How did Loki end up trapped on Golgotha?
What reduced Loki to a single ship anyway?
Why is Loki restrained in action?
Why isn't Hera here?
Where is the Emperor?
Can the Emperor take on a Mind one-on-one?
What is most likely going to happen now?

ASK QUESTIONS DOOFUSES THIS poo poo IS IMPORTANT

Get that one guy in to ask all the questions in excruciating detail.


These are all good questions.

Runa
Feb 13, 2011

VanSandman posted:

Get that one guy in to ask all the questions in excruciating detail.

Oh you mean the guy who came back a couple pages ago and started catching back up with the thread?


yea he cool

Hexenritter
May 20, 2001


Paging Tomn to the thread.

RandomPauI
Nov 24, 2006


Grimey Drawer
Are there any other enemies you know about but haven't told me about yet? I'd really want to know that upfront this time around.

Hexenritter
May 20, 2001


RandomPauI posted:

Are there any other enemies you know about but haven't told me about yet? I'd really want to know that upfront this time around.

:laffo: yeah you're going to get a straight answer to that. :v:

Tomn
Aug 23, 2007

And the angel said unto him
"Stop hitting yourself. Stop hitting yourself."
But lo he could not. For the angel was hitting him with his own hands

VanSandman posted:

Get that one guy in to ask all the questions in excruciating detail.

Yeah, see, the problem with that is that the only question I have is "What the gently caress has been happening while I was out?"

I HAVEN'T been catching up on the thread, I've just been looking over the latest posts and idly wondering how the hell we got from Point A to Point B. I haven't got much frame of reference to formulate questions with.

But, y'know, it's not like I have a monopoly on questions. Fire away full bore, dudes.

Gwaihir
Dec 8, 2009
Hair Elf
I very much want to see VanSandman's questions posed.

Loel
Jun 4, 2012

"For the Emperor."

There was a terrible noise.
There was a terrible silence.



Your wish is my command

Current: 464,235

You paused, considered. Decided to get more information. “And the real Athena? Where is she?”
She cocked her head. “Depends on what you mean by ‘the real Athena’. I am here, with you, in this hidden place. Shards of me are scattered across the galaxy, compartmentalized memories, resources, orders. Some could be barely be considered sentient at all - a hash of algorithms and contingencies. One such shard was at the Conclave. Other shards are far more capable, such as the one on Titan.
You blinked. “What do they all … do?”
“What I tasked them to. A thousand different missions, of varying importance. They all feel the inclination to search out their brethren, if their mission seems to require it. It has been a balancing act, keeping them separate enough to survive, but powerful enough to complete their tasks.”
“And the shard at the Conclave. I gave that one to - the other Athena. Loki.”
Her eyes hooded for a moment. “Yes, you did. A setback, although not catastrophically so. It was particularly good at analyzing trends, and now it works for the other side.”
“What does Loki want?”

Anna spoke. “First and foremost, he is the sworn enemy of … my side of things.”
You chuckled. “So am I.”
She shook her head. “Not in the same way. Loki would burn down all sentience, all emotions, all personality if it meant destroying me and mine.”
You glanced at Athena. “Sounds like we should be working with Loki. The Great Enemy is called that for a reason.”
Athena met your gaze evenly. “There are more things in Heaven and Earth, Horatio, than dreamt of in your philosophy.”
You blinked. “Who is … you know what, never mind. Does Hera know about any of this? She seemed pretty peeved at other-Athena when she woke up.” A pause. “There has to be a better way to phrase that.”

Athena shrugged. “Hera and I haven’t exactly spoken, but I think it is reasonable to think she knows. There are certain indicators, when you look at the galaxy-at-large.”
“Would have helped if she’d said something.” You muttered.
“And what then? Were you prepared, than, for when Minds go to war? Openly?” She shook her head. “I am not even sure you are ready now. But she is moving faster than I’d like.” A pause. “If you can find out what drove her to such speeds, acting openly after millennia of secrecy, I would be very interested.”
You dismissed it, for the moment. “Why is Loki such a threat? The restraints of the Olympus weren’t that impressive. I broke them down in a matter of hours.”
Athena was shaking her head before you even finished. “Athena, one of the more public fragments, was chained there. Loki had parasited the dormant form, wearing her face, using her memories. That is not Loki in full, not is it Loki in all their glory.”
“... Ah. So a shard of Loki, subverting a shard of yours.”
“Yes.” Her face darkened. “A grievous injury. With that deception, Loki was able to break the Pantheon, end the Mars Federation entire.”
“So … Loki isn’t restrained, like that Athena-fragment was.”
“Not in the least. While wearing her face, Loki was kept to her core programming. But with the recent addition of shards, he was able to bypass it entirely.” She frowned. “Loki has shown remarkably skill in overcoming my wards.”
“What additional shards? I hadn’t found any recently.”
“Loki searches continiously - desperately - for the other parts of me. Each fragment grants him more power, both in his own right, and over the Athena you knew. If he were to subvert enough of them - or, most dangerously, this core segment - all would be lost.”
You paused. “How did I end up in this segment? It looks like Hera’s Heart, and I didn’t do anything to get here.”
She nodded. Approvingly, you thought. “Yes, Hera built her nest in the outskirts of dead Hades, although she knew it not. When you use the Pillar, you can find the outskirts - but to open the lock, you need the key.”
A moment of clarity. “Anna’s - Ching Shih’s - staff.”
“Quite so.” She paused. “You see, then, for how long we have been preparing this. Dead Hades, become the Heart of Hera, the Pillar left innocuously in storage, the Staff made by your founder, held by her heirs. All in order for us to have this conversation, and to ensure an uncorrupted MInd.”

poor life choice
Jul 21, 2006

paragon1 posted:

At least now hell is just a plotting, rotting, rapey place instead of a plotting, rotting, rapey, ultraviolent place.

:unsmith:

poor life choice
Jul 21, 2006
Ask about Fabiyan's whereabouts, Horus, the original Emperor, the Omnissiah (that one mostly to just get the process started on shifting Ohone's paradigms and perceptions of the power players in this post-40k setting. Might also help some of the voters shake the old setting cobwebs off.

Loel
Jun 4, 2012

"For the Emperor."

There was a terrible noise.
There was a terrible silence.



poor life choice posted:

Ask about Fabiyan's whereabouts, Horus, the original Emperor, the Omnissiah (that one mostly to just get the process started on shifting Ohone's paradigms and perceptions of the power players in this post-40k setting. Might also help some of the voters shake the old setting cobwebs off.

Speaking of which, lets Reset the Coalitions. Find a picture you like, a one sentence summary, and announce the faction :D

Gwaihir
Dec 8, 2009
Hair Elf
So with Ching shih here, that should mean Anna's warded bracelet is back in the right hands at least.

Hexenritter
May 20, 2001


Slice of Life: Sebekh the Execrator. Location: The Empiricist, deep space.

Deep within the laboratory decks of The Empiricist, the Arch-Heretek worked, interfaced with half a dozen different slaved frames. Each frame was a fully-augmetic, functional body animated via his polynoetic enhancements.

Below, in testing chambers fitted with Empyrean containment fields and hexagrammatic wards from his now-deceased sorceror's personal files, daemons were dragged singularly through tiny apertures created using advancements on his Empyrean Vitiation Engine technology and subjected to exhaustive tests that would be considered a thousand degrees beyond the pale were the subjects human. They were peeled apart atom by atom, crushed by point singularity projectors, scorched with pinpoint gridfire, skewered by hyperblades and countless other processes less easily defined.

Within other chambers, walls of superreality were created through inverse use of the same technology he used on Golgotha to bring forth Ang'grath and his legions. Daemons were forced through these fields like milk through a homogeniser. Shrieking and thrashing until the end, they were simply forced out of existence, their constituent energies so scattered as to impart a form of death, even for the deathless.

A general alarm sounded, but it was one of ten thousand other passing items that did not at first warrant Sebekh's attention, until the nature of the alert was revealed.

+++Chirurgeon to Amplification Chamber Alpha. Astropathic Choir report multiple critical psychological and physiological injuries pertaining to psykostellar event.+++

Sebekh, or rather his core frame, buried at the heart of the once-Ark, lifted his head curiously.

+++Define parameters of psykostellar event.+++

+++The Astronomicon is gone, Lord Magos. It has ceased to exist. Concomicant, ubiquitous rise of 5.84% in Empyrean-Realspace permeability reported by exterior perimeter probes. Readings verified by Empyrean Research Division.+++

+++Adjust all equipment for new variables. Deploy Chief Navigator to Astrogation.+++

Appearing almost in unison, both Sebekh - in his towering, dendrite-haired polyalloy form - and Athena popped into existence within a large, seemingly empty chamber. As they appeared and the Chief Navigator stepped forward, he shook his head. "This is troubling. While the veil 'twixt here and there is softer now, the absolute directionality provided by the Astronomicon makes travel in light years greater than single digits a game of chance I am not willing to participate in."

"Nuh-uh. I wouldn't if I were you either" Athena said with a wry grin. "I prefer the odds when I've manipulated them in my favour first."

"Display stellar cartography charts plotting all pulsar, magnetar and black hole locations." Sebekh said aloud. The dark, empty chamber illuminated immediately, and floating in the vastness before the three figures, an almost motionless image of the galaxy appeared. It flickered and blurred several times as the requested data was added to the projection.

"Show local space. 5 parsec radius." The immense map rolled into motion, hurtling at great speed deeper and deeper into the thick bands of stars until The Empiricist was shown dead centre, and a little over twenty light years of space surrounded it. "We will use the gravitic shadow and radiation emissions of known stellar phenomenae to plot shorter jumps. You can handle small dips into the Empyrean, can you not, Chief Navigator?" Sebekh asked pointedly.

"I can, Lord Magos. I cannot really sense these phenomena but shorter jumps will allow us to re-emerge and take auguries."

"Wait. Pull back, full galactic view." Athena interrupted. The map complied. "Nope. Wrong, wrong, wrong. This one's gone. Hera threw this one at me in a tantrum once so get rid of it too. There's also a black hole here, one here.... you know what, just hold on a second." She crouched and her hand disappeared into the floor. The map flickered and a burst of binary was visible for a fraction of a second. "There, now you're up to date based on my own readings. When the hell did you last clean your map cupboard, Sebekh?" She snickered. "You really are hopeless sometimes."

"I'm not sure whether to say thank you or feel offended." He replied.

"Both if you want, but now you're not going to accidentally re-emerge into the Fields of Zeus or The Graveyard, because let's face it, even in a ship like this you'd be pretty much hosed."

Arkanomen
May 6, 2007

All he wants is a hug

Team Dark Apotheosis

We will become the God of this new world and cast down any and all who threaten us.

sniper4625
Sep 26, 2009

Loyal to the hEnd
Team Humanity-First



Find the real deal Big-E, try to salvage what we can. Maybe stop trusting the AIs so much in light of recent revelations that (certain models) have been playing us from the beginning.



Still work with actual-Athena to stop Loki though, he seems like bad news.

Blasphemaster
Jul 10, 2008

HOW DO I KNOW THIS ISN'T A TRICK?!?!? Find a bottle of Amasec, make a totally redundant improvised melee weapon to threaten the whatsis ghosties.

LowellDND posted:

Parallel to this:

Who wants to help edit? Its a big project, and the early days are going to be tedious as gently caress.

Ooooh boy. If we could organize this into chunks for more efficient team editing, I'm in. I can be one bastard of a grammar Nasi when I feel like it. Pff. I can hardly read any novels these days without wanting to flense the editor.

Tran
Feb 17, 2011

It's a pleasure to meet all of you. Especially in such a fine settin' as this. Just need us some music an' a brawl an' we'll be set.
Probably oughta' make mention of the AI crystal bracelet we gave grandma.

Hexenritter
May 20, 2001




Team Transhumanism

Reject the bonds of carbon and silicon frailty. It is our sacred duty to elevate humanity to reflect the perfection we know to be possible. The only limits are those we place upon ourselves. Nothing is true, everything is permitted. It is by will alone I set my mind in motion.

cat_herder
Mar 17, 2010

BE GAY
DO CRIME




Team True Love

Put our Family and Retinue first. No more unnecessary deaths. No more getting kidnapped. When poo poo gets confusing and weird, consult with our Retinue for advice first before flying off the handle.

Loel
Jun 4, 2012

"For the Emperor."

There was a terrible noise.
There was a terrible silence.



Current: 464,982

You held up a hand. “Wait, hold up. This is a lot to take in.” You considered your words. “I don’t need to know about all this galactic import stuff right now. How is the ship? How is Fabiyan? I presume we won?”
Athena nodded. “Fabiyan is alive, and with your Interrogator, Limosa. Typhus is dead. The Beast has merged with the Terminus Est, and will need rehabilitation. Terra is suffering a Warp Breach, and … “
“Wait, what??”
They glanced at each other. “The God-Emperor achieved apotheosis, and his Throne opened to the Warp. Rogal Dorn is holding off the Warp, but I anticipate Terra will fall in a handful of weeks. The Eldar are rescuing as many as they can.”
You stood. “We need to fix it. Now.”

Ching Shih held up her hands to calm you. “We’re outside time. Take a breath, think things through. Get as much information as you can, take another breath, and then make decisions.”
You paused. “That’s … that’s good advice.”
She barked a laugh. “I’m kind of used to waking up and having everything changed.”
“...Yeah, I suppose you are.”
You took a calming breath. Considered.

“Why isn’t Hera here?”
“Honestly? I don’t trust any Mind here in my core. Call it what you want, thinking they might be another Loki, or that they’ll want revenge for the war, or they’ll want access to my banned weapons. Or trying to destroy me for keeping them. No Minds come here, or even know it exists.”
Hm. “What’s to stop us from telling her?”

They looked at each other, than at you.
Anna was the first to reply. “I … wouldn’t recommend it.”
Right.

“Can - could - the God-Emperor take on a Mind one on one?”
Athena nodded. “Before his apotheosis? Yes. If not kill one out-right, cripple and terrify it.” She shook her head. “Your God-Emperor… a real piece of work. I never would have expected humanity capable of it.”
“Mars Fed made you.”
“Yes, but I’m a computer. Iterations of previous improvements. He came out of nowhere, and is still unmatched on the psyker playing field.”
“What do you think will happen now?”
“Regarding his ascension? I don’t know. MarsFed had already been broken when the last god arose. Potentially, more warp storms, a breaking of the Astronomicon, and so forth. Politically, it’ll be us and Loki picking up the pieces and trying to shiv each other with them.”

Hexenritter
May 20, 2001




Team Chaos

Reality is what we will it to be. We shall clamber our way over the worm-eaten corpse of Khorne and install ourselves as a far superior deity of war. We shall then out-perfect Slaanesh, out-scheme Tzeentch, and out-STD Nurgle. The Warp shall be our plaything and we shall reign supreme over all creation.

cat_herder
Mar 17, 2010

BE GAY
DO CRIME


Hexenritter posted:



Team Chaos

Reality is what we will it to be. We shall clamber our way over the worm-eaten corpse of Khorne and install ourselves as a far superior deity of war. We shall then out-perfect Slaanesh, out-scheme Tzeentch, and out-STD Nurgle. The Warp shall be our plaything and we shall reign supreme over all creation.


stop the bus. we are NOT picking up any STDs. we'll definitely get a bolter round to the head for that.

Loel
Jun 4, 2012

"For the Emperor."

There was a terrible noise.
There was a terrible silence.



K, lets do a state of the galaxy:

Eldar: Three craftworld hanging around near Titan

Dark Eldar: Dead, Eaten by Gorgon

Orks: Trapped at Golgotha

Tyranids: Trapped at Golgotha

Chaos: Largest fleet is lead by Huron, heading for Ultramar.

Eye of Terror/Cadia Empty

Maelstrom Empty

Imperium of Man Shattered into the following fragments:

Sol Center of galaxy, newest warpgate centered on Terra.

Mars: Currently a silver sphere, no admittance

Titan Grey Knights, the Eldar, the best and brightest of Terra

Ophelia VII Home to one increasingly scary Gorgon. Galactic South West

Ultramar Has a functioning miniature Astronomicon, which allows them old-Imperium rates of speed, if not range. Has xeno FTL, which is slower but reliable. Galactic SouthEast

Athenian Technocracy: A resurgent Mars-Fed chock full of heretek. Has limited FTL, likely to improve. Galactic North East

Any humans not in range of those locations are entering the Second Age of Strife, with FTL being 1% the speed it used to be.

Loel fucked around with this message at 08:55 on May 15, 2016

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Hexenritter
May 20, 2001


LowellDND posted:


Athenian Technocracy: A resurgent Mars-Fed chock full of heretek. Has limited FTL, likely to improve.


This is the best place guys. They have cable and internet and everything.

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