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Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014

Where do I start concerning learning about this extensive, extensive lore?

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Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014

Arkanomen posted:

Watch if the Emperor had a a text to Speech device. They cover most of the Lore.
I love that show, yet I still do not know the stars, planets, weapons, divisions and specific non-major events enough to understand much when role-playing a tech-priest.

Also did the Emperor just deliberately let things gently caress up last episode? (Intentionally cracking Magnus and setting kitten up to force himself out, I bet)

Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014

LowellDND posted:

ah, see, the picture I was using was
Can/has Rogal Dorn shown up yet?

Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014

Is Fabiyan still dead? At what point does the CYOA get over it's gigantic hiccup early in part 4?

(Around page 220)

Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014

LowellDND posted:

Each one is probably 5-6 posts each, and we will be doing them intermittently. :D Like now.

A little life with dried tubers



Your second in command, Dr. Erasmus, coughed uncomfortably. Where were you? You had … just been in the labs. Not the dark things that your day dream (nightmare?) had conjured up. You were at the Labs. Also called the Vault. Underneath the Himalayas, it was probably the safest place in the world. It would take a thousand nukes to burrow in to get it, and had been built accordingly.

And … you were the program manager of the Secret Projects. Well, one of them, anyway. Biological Improvements. Jokingly known as the Superheroes Program. It had started with the Thunder Warriors, which were thought to be the peak of human performance, but the Emperor was sure the edge could be pushed further. Transhuman. Posthuman. And he would know.

And now, twenty of the most viable specimens, gone. No explanation. Except the Emperor wanted one.

You coughed, sipped some water. “Ah yes, that’s correct. Frankly, we have no explanation for this. Everyone has been interviewed who was on site, we have security teams going over the video feeds in minute detail, none of the filters report any unauthorized biological material.”

Again, that voice. “Do you think it was an inside job? Or perhaps one last act of spite by Nathan Dume.” The people at the table spat at the name. You frowned.
“Sire… we just don’t have any evidence. Of anything. At all. If I were a superstitious person, I would be saying words like ‘miracle’, or ‘curse.’ We just have no idea at this time.”
The Emperor looked at you all thoughtfully. “You know why you are here - the Great Crusade is nearing readiness, and all of you have your part to play. You are here because I value your discretion, and your willingness to use science in the worst of crises. Understand now that … there are powers out there that Earth has not yet encountered, and they are making their move.”
Nods all around. Speculation of aliens had been rife for as long as Humanity had existed. And while this wasn’t saying it outright, it was rather close…

“Now, Dr. Ohone. My Crusade needs support. What can you offer despite this setback?”

A. “We believe we have enough genetic material for one more attempt at the posthuman model, and think that would get the most benefit.”
B. “We believe that the genetic material is better used across many models. They will be individually weaker, but greater in number.”
C. “We believe that we can make use of certain animal hybrids, to be used as shock and suicide troops.”
D. “We have the facilities for mass cloning, and they could be brought up immediately. Baseline human, but the numbers would be astronomical.”
E. Something Else

Can somebody please tell me what the fuckity gently caress is going on? Is Owain dead?

Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014

I now look like Ohone on a lovely hair day.

Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014

Since when did the thread title change and what the hell has happened now?

Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014

Wait a second DID WE loving END KH0RNE!? :psyduck:

Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014

LowellDND posted:

'E's not pinin'! 'E's passed on! This god is no more! He has ceased to be! 'E's expired and gone to meet 'is maker!

'E's a stiff! Bereft of life, 'e rests in peace! If you hadn't nailed 'im to the perch 'e'd be pushing up the daisies!
'Is metabolic processes are now 'istory! 'E's off the twig!
'E's kicked the bucket, 'e's shuffled off 'is mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the bleedin' choir invisibile!!

THIS IS AN EX-CHAOS!!
I don't think even the God Emperor if revived could've pulled such a feat!

It's like we've suddenly outclassed loving Malcador! :vince:

Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014

Should I be told exactly what the gently caress has happened since our fair Lady optimized the throne?

Also do we have a TV Tropes page yet?

Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014

....Does the Terminus Decree mean that we've been banned from the Imperium although the God Emperor has ascended/returned? Are we actually in a position to conquer The WARP ITSELF!?

Are we officially in Act 6?

AND HOW THE gently caress DID WE KILL THE CONCEPT OF KHORNE!? :psyboom:

Grouchio fucked around with this message at 16:08 on Oct 31, 2016

Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014

Oh whatever LET'S DECONSTRUCT THE ULTRAMARINES AND EVERYTHING ELSE MATT WARD HOLDS DEAR!!! :kheldragar:

Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014

Wait a minute...

WHERE THE gently caress IS SLY MARBO!? AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA- :psyboom:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCMNWAJiz5Y

Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014

Wait so the story's over now because we blew up Terra because Trump won?

Grimdark times.

Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014

Have we run into any C'tan yet? Is the Void Dragon the Ommnissah?

Grouchio fucked around with this message at 00:24 on Nov 19, 2016

Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014

If I were to attempt to make a Presidential CYOA out of one of our previous presidents, what would I need to do to prepare for it? (For example, a CYOA on Truman)

Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014

Outrail posted:

I think it got cursed in the end. I was looking forward to going hot war on Russia/Liechtenstein/Hawaii.
Someone should revive that.

Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014

Ask him what magic allowed the Patriots to come through in the 2017 Superbowl. And Matt Ward.

Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014

Lowell, if you were to explain how you were able to make the immutable warhammer universe mutable, with regards to the post below, how would you respond?

quote:

"The Mechanicus does NOT have the technology. They haven't been living on some fancy paradise planet since pre-Fall. Mars is an anarchic nightmare shithole the moment you leave the safe zones into the kilometers of labyrinthine corridors beneath it full of rogue machinery, self-aware and malevolent AI from before the Fall, and the daemon programs of the Heresy. EVERYTHING in the databases is hosed. The databases are fragmented over the entire surface to the extent that it would be impossible to see one tenth of the total files in the ludicrously extended life of a Magos even assuming that they are completely safe to visit. And they are not.
The files have been corrupted into madness by the Fall, and the unleashing of the most potent informational warfare systems ever to exist to defeat the Iron Men. Nearly all of Mars was rendered uninhabitable, what they live in now is built on the top of the ruins. They send archeotech expeditions in to find poo poo, nearly all of them never come back. The sheer number of rogue war machine running around in there is sufficient to rape the mind. Then came the Heresy, which was not earth-exclusive. Mars as the second most critical planet in the Imperium was the site of fighting nearly as ferocious as on Terra, with Mechanicus loyalists and Hereteks fighting tooth, nail, and mechadendrite everywhere. Ancient machines were unleashed, viruses both normal and daemonic unleashed into all the computer systems. Towards the close of the Heresy, Rogal Dorn sent some Space Marine operatives to wipe the planet clean of all life. Nearly every single stored record on Mars was rendered unusable, and those that survived are half the time self-aware and don't like you, or daemonic and actively try to kill you.
If you come back with a schematic, it is almost certainly gibberish, and if it isn't, it's probably corrupted into uselessness. If it does come back whole it was probably malevolently hosed with so that instead of a Lasgun power cell it's a loving grenade set to detonate the second you finish building it. Why do you think they want off-world STCs so damned much if they had them all here? The loving Heresy is why. Off-world they only have to contend with the Fall's war and its effects on the machinery plus twenty thousand years of degradation with no maintenance. But at least off-world it'll probably just not work instead of actively seeking to kill you.
Why do you think they seek to placate the Machine Spirit? It's because it exists. The fragments of trillions of self-aware programs, flourishing during the Dark Age of Technology and shattered by Man in his war with the Iron men, imprisoning the few who had not set themselves irrevocably into the machinery, a prison smashed wide open by the Heresy. Everything that can hold programming in the Imperium has a shard of a program in it. EVERYTHING. And you'd better loving please it or it will do everything in its power to make your day poo poo. Sure, if it's a Lasgun it'll just not work or start shooting off rounds by itself, but if you piss off a Land Raider you can say bye-bye to half a continent. They apply these principles to things without spirits by habit, since they're so used to dealing with tanks that if not talked to just right might go rogue and annihilate the Manufactorum before they can be killed.
This is why they do not like ANYONE loving with technology, because it is so rare to find anything that just works it is critical it not be compromised. That, and they do not have the actual knowledge to gently caress with it intelligently, just through experimentation, which inevitably leads to slaughter. Pressing buttons to see what works is fine in a 21st century computer, but it is a very stupid thing to do at the helm of a 410th century starship with the destructive power to end solar systems. The entire knowledge base of humanity was lost. Not forgotten, but outright lost. Everything at all, poof. Nobody knows anything because the Fall hosed everything up and the Heresy double-hosed it. To rebuild the theoretical framework needed to design new technologies that don't kill everyone near them would require starting from the ground up. They don't have the time, they never have, and they never will.
This gets on to the point of war and what it does to technology. Someone will parrot that it makes it go much faster. Yes, it makes practical applications of technology go much faster. It also utterly stops all research on the scientific theories behind those technologies. This means that when war chugs along for a decade or two things get done. It means when it goes on too long you run out of theories to turn into technologies, and then you run out of technologies to apply. You stagnate. When you have been fighting in a war for survival in a drastically overextended empire, this is what happens. You are desperate for any extra materiel that can possibly be produced. Half your entire loving military might went rogue, smashed the half that stayed and a whole swathe of the logistical side of your society, leaving you with the tattered shreds of a war machine to keep hold of an empire that was reaching straining point with an army far larger. There is no time for the sort of applied research programs that took Man twenty five thousand years to develop, in a time of unprecedented growth and prosperity.
This is also why the Adeptus Mechanicus insists on cargo cultism. It's because when you are dealing with things you barely understand because everything you knew about them was destroyed it is the safest and most reliable option. The rituals do not exists for mysticism, they exist because they are the most practical means of building, repairing and maintaining the equipment they have with the knowledge surviving. You don't understand why pressing that button makes it go, because the manual tried to take over your brain and the copies are all unreadable and the research base that would let you reverse-engineer it does not exist and cannot be built.
Why are the Tau doing so well with their technology? Because they had peace. Eight thousand years unmolested by any enemy and they were helped the entire time by the most advanced biological race in the galaxy. Give the Imperium eight thousand years of peace and I can guarantee you it will be harder than it was during the Great Crusade.
Since some still don't get the idea, try this:
Build a library, fill it with all human knowledge. You take it elsewhere when you need a book from it, but the book is only a simplified copy. You don't understand the real book, and you don't need to. Nobody takes the real books anywhere because why would you, when there's a whole library there?
Now that library goes rogue and the maintenance machinery starts killing everyone any-loving-where near it. Where the gently caress did they all come from, you swear to god there weren't this many, and there weren't because they're using the library's information to fight their war. The government fights a battle that destroys the planet against these robots and tears apart the library to stop them using it, only to be destroyed in the process. The library is leveled, cast into flames, every book burned and every computer virus-laden.
Then comes a man who worked there. He talks to the few surviving library workers, assembles their information, and starts rebuilding a city around the library and expanding it as the librarians find little scraps of paper and fragmented bits of files that stuck together just right read something. They rebuild a library from scrap on the ashes of the old. It isn't a shadow on the glory of the old, but it is all they have.
Then the city turns on itself, kills its master, and the librarians turn to rage. Half of them kill the other half and destroy the remnants of the library because where they're going they won't need science. Everything burns, and the city is left to a scattered few survivors, walls open to the world, with the hungry predators circling.
The Adeptus Mechanicus is the sole surviving librarian, desperately scrabbling through the ashes of paper and splinters of hard drives for anything to help him and the city he needs to survive just a second longer.
The Imperium isn't grim because things suck by choice and could be fine if a sensible person came along. That sensible person wouldn't survive fifty seconds of the reality. The Imperium is grim because every single poo poo decision, every single sacrifice, every single death, every single man woman and child suffering a poo poo life in the worst conditions imaginable, is the absolute best that can be done. It is a study of the worst happening to everyone and what part of your humanity must be sacrificed today just to stand a chance of survival, and all it asks is whether or not it would have perhaps been better to die."

Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014

Hey Lowell have you had Ohone beat the crap out of Tzeentch yet?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7g-ydhg10UE

'Cause Kitten surely did.

Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014

Lowell, would you mind helping me set up a Presidential CYOA? I've sent you a PM on the matter.

Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014

CourValant posted:

Not to derail, can you please provide a link once it's active? I'm really enjoying Nyaa's Presidential CYOA as well.
Sure thing. I could actually use some assistance in gathering and organizing enough information to get it started. I'm thinking of doing Truman.

Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014

I have started a CYOA preparation thread for Truman and it has not recieved much love yet!

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3821616

Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014

Did we ever figure out who the two unknown legions and primarchs were?

Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014

Wait Ohone is the God Empress now? *says Grouchio in the flatest surprise-tone possible*

Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014

Obligatory new TTS:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRuWCgyDBQo

Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014

Didn't we duel the godamn Chaos Dragon Ctan in Mars?

Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014

Arkanomen posted:

Rap-Battled it! Killed it!
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Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014

Wait Ohone's the God-Emperor now?

Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014

Is most of Humanity still intact? Has the webway been patched up?

Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014

I wonder if Ohone (Or Loel for that matter) ever regrets annihilating trillions of innocents in their quest for re-configuring mankind? The Necrons would be proud.

Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014

The dregs and citizens on all of those planets?

Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014

Does our Empress still wear her Lord Sire's armor? Or has she changed her appearance since then?

Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czAlG9oEaGw
:allears: :allears: :allears:

Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7GsdsuSXfw

Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014

I cannot believe this is back. How are the Tyrannid hordes?

Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014

Loel posted:

Loki's collected all the Tyranids and Orks at Golgotha and put a temporal trap around them. Near infinite numbers of organic predators are building lattices the size of planets across a cubic lightyear of space and fighting for eternity.
So the hive mind being the size of a supercluster is non-canon then?

Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014

I have a hard time believing that the Tyranid Hive is the size of galactic clusters. Wasn't that debunked?

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Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014

Still alive Loel?

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