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SquadronROE posted:Nothing in the rule book says this: Can you move diagonally? Is it 2 movement points? Pretty sure it explicitly does say you can move diagonally or orthogonal in the starter rule book, for no additional movement points.
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SquadronROE posted:Nothing in the rule book says this: Can you move diagonally? Is it 2 movement points? Its in the book. Diagonal movement is the same as orthogonal movement. Bottom left of page 5
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Dec 22, 2014 20:55
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alg posted:Its in the book. Diagonal movement is the same as orthogonal movement. Bottom left of page 5 Ah, I missed that. Thanks.
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Dec 22, 2014 21:05
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As another note, large figures (denoted as anything not 1x1) can only move orthogonally and must pay 1 movement point to rotate around to fit somewhere.
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Dec 23, 2014 05:56
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Just played the starting scenario and a skirmish. Really fun game. Royal guards own hard.
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Impasse is $65 at the LGS' post Xmas sale today so I might get it.
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Chill la Chill posted:Impasse is $65 at the LGS' post Xmas sale today so I might get it. It's a lot of game, and I think it's worth it.
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Just preordered Armada because I have poor impulse control. Wonder if nothing but victories will be a viable build.
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Sgt. Anime Pederast posted:Just preordered Armada because I have poor impulse control. Wonder if nothing but victories will be a viable build. I preordered from Amazon, I hope they honor the price...
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Dec 27, 2014 04:39
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Sir DonkeyPunch posted:I preordered from Amazon, I hope they honor the price... Amazon always gives you the lowest price over the life of your preorder.
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Finally got to play Impass tonight. I really thought I had them on the ropes in the intro mission. The E-Web wounded someone and took another person down to almost wounded. Then they killed all my guys in one turn.... It came down to the wire, though. They had 1 activation to get the last terminal in the last round. Nobody felt like the game was unfair and the rolling is fun. They definitely want to play again!
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One thing that irks me with ImpAss is the campaign books mission layout on each page. I wish it was separated better instead of just a clump of bullet points with random poo poo the rebel player is allowed to know scattered around. Also this poo poo is written like a friggin legal document. Is it just me?
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Sir DonkeyPunch posted:I preordered from Amazon, I hope they honor the price... I just preordered from Amazon too. That's a great price.
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Dec 27, 2014 10:59
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That's $40 cheaper than the best local post-xmas sale price right now, even including shipping. I think I might have to part with some xmas gift money for that. They don't have any of the expansions up for preorder yet?
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NTRabbit posted:That's $40 cheaper than the best local post-xmas sale price right now, even including shipping. I think I might have to part with some xmas gift money for that. I looked, couldn't find the Victory by ISBN or the FFG id, so idk
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zVxTeflon posted:One thing that irks me with ImpAss is the campaign books mission layout on each page. I wish it was separated better instead of just a clump of bullet points with random poo poo the rebel player is allowed to know scattered around. Also this poo poo is written like a friggin legal document. Is it just me? Fantasy Flight rule books are never the most organized things...they have a really bad habit of formatting everything as a teaching exercise that introduces you to points one at a time....which is fantastic for learning how to play but terrible for future lookups and rule checks.
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zVxTeflon posted:One thing that irks me with ImpAss is the campaign books mission layout on each page. I wish it was separated better instead of just a clump of bullet points with random poo poo the rebel player is allowed to know scattered around. Also this poo poo is written like a friggin legal document. Is it just me? I know I'm tempted to spiral bind the campaign guide because I don't want this info just all over the place. The Imperial player almost needs a drat DM screen.
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Feeple posted:It's a lot of game, and I think it's worth it. I did not arrive in time to get one. Some guys were probably at the shop when it opened the day after Xmas. I had forgotten they do this sale every year.
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Well i'm getting ImpAss pretty soon here, are there any commonly missed/not very well explained rules that i should watch out for?
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Line of Sight is a bitch, and you should definitely define well beforehand how your group is going to use it. Even the examples in the book don't cover everything, and it's incredibly frustrating when folks disagree over what constitutes cover. I don't particularly like the book definitions, quite honestly. There is exactly zero in between stage from completely unable to be targeted and open season, which bugs me quite a bit considering that there are situations where your figure can be 90% hidden behind a wall and still be shot as if they're standing right out there in the open. Personally, I'd really, really like some sort of house rule where if you're 'in cover' where at least two of your character's space's edges are obscured you get to add a black defense die, or something like that.
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Strobe posted:Line of Sight is a bitch, and you should definitely define well beforehand how your group is going to use it. Even the examples in the book don't cover everything, and it's incredibly frustrating when folks disagree over what constitutes cover. I don't particularly like the book definitions, quite honestly. There is exactly zero in between stage from completely unable to be targeted and open season, which bugs me quite a bit considering that there are situations where your figure can be 90% hidden behind a wall and still be shot as if they're standing right out there in the open. I agree this would work as an optional rule. I can see why they didn't do it this way. They want a fast paced action game. The tedium of checking corners each time you attack and a game based on cover, where everyone tries to end their movement hiding as much as possible, would be a boring way to play by default.
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alg posted:I agree this would work as an optional rule. I can see why they didn't do it this way. They want a fast paced action game. The tedium of checking corners each time you attack and a game based on cover, where everyone tries to end their movement hiding as much as possible, would be a boring way to play by default. Infinity, gears of war, and paintball are all good games. But yes this is just a game mechanic decision and each has pros and cons. I do think that Star Wars lends itself to less cover-based systems. I'd say fast and action-paced, but that covers paintball and it's all about cover in that game.
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HOOLY BOOLY posted:Well i'm getting ImpAss pretty soon here, are there any commonly missed/not very well explained rules that i should watch out for? Make sure the Imp players knows what he can and cant tell the rebel player in the campaign
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alg posted:I agree this would work as an optional rule. I can see why they didn't do it this way. They want a fast paced action game. The tedium of checking corners each time you attack and a game based on cover, where everyone tries to end their movement hiding as much as possible, would be a boring way to play by default. Strictly speaking you already check corners every time you attack as part of determining LOS in the first place. All my proposed amendment would do is give characters that are partially obscured some advantage to good positioning. It also makes regular Imperial troops less hosed-in-the-rear end by Rebels with their white dice since they could get a second black and not crumple in moments. The difference in defensive capability between black and white dice is absurd, especially since it feels like 90% of Rebel characters get white dice and their 1/6 chance to dodge all damage period.
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Strobe posted:Strictly speaking you already check corners every time you attack as part of determining LOS in the first place. All my proposed amendment would do is give characters that are partially obscured some advantage to good positioning. Well this seems to stay true to the star wars canon. Ie storm troopers can't aim for poo poo
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The white defense die gives a 1/6 chance to dodge all incoming damage, period. Even Darth Vader's saber, or an E-Web laying down what otherwise would be eight hits. Had that one happen in a game. Was not happy in the slightest. There are exactly three characters on the Imperial side with white defense dice. Imperial Officers of both the normal and Elite variety, and then the Royal Guard Champion. Not even Darth loving Vader has the chance to wholly avoid an attack in this game. In contrast, in one skirmish I played five out of the six Rebel characters had white dice, and the one that didn't was a three point gimmick that gave folks extra movement speed and a focus every turn. That's insane in terms of buffs on the small skirmish map and with Imperial characters being as fragile as they are. Skirmish is not balanced. At all. Imperials need all the help they can get, and getting an extra black die while in cover is at least a step toward that.
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Isn't the whole point of Imperial Assault taking a party of named Rebels against a shitload of unnamed bad guys (with occasional named baddie) and seeing what happens? I mean it wouldn't be mega thematic if a Stormtrooper blew away a PC every round. That being said, shouldn't the Rebels have some generic trooper grunts and stuff to use in Skirmish?
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Probably. As is, it's still lots of Imperial grunts against Luke Skywalker and Han Solo and their merry band of scoundrels and Jedi.
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So when during the campaign do the Imps get the AT-AT and AT-ST's? My brother plays Imps in X-Wing and he was really excited to play this purely for the chance to use them on me.
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Jan 1, 2015 09:36
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AT-AT never AT-ST within the first few campaign missions.
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Amazon Germany has armada listed at 60€ so I ordered two packs.  Now I just need to talk some friends into playing it.
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LOS is a bit problematic, yes, but once you start playing and begin to "grok" it, it's well designed for the kinds of fights seen in the films, where people pop up, shoot, and dive back down. Realize as the Imperial player that, just like a GM in an RPG, your job isn't to "win" all the time (although never pass up the opportunity if it's presented,) but to really put the pressure on the Rebels. Skirmish is much more balanced between players, but the campaign makes it very hard to kill Rebels, especially after the first few missions. I'm playing with a full party full of dudes who I know to be pretty smart players, and they work very collaboratively. Threat is an amazing tool to use, as you can add reinforcements to a battle by spending that Threat. My players quickly realized that anytime I have 18 threat up, Vader could drop and ruin their poo poo (the ability to add him to your hand is a 1 Influence card.) Honestly, Wiess and IG-88 are absolute motherfuckers due to the Arsenal rule, and Vader can really threaten the Rebels. Overall, treating this more like an RPG and less like a boardgame makes the campaign really come alive, I think. I haven't tried Skirmish, but it sounds pretty solid.
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I am absolutely trying to win as the Imperial. It's more fun that way for everyone in my group.
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the panacea posted:Amazon Germany has armada listed at 60€ so I ordered two packs.
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Trying to win as imperials isn't even all that bad - it's not super likely that you will win every mission, but, every mission does have a failure result, and for story missions, it opens up a new mission. you won't see descent-like "PLAYERS LOSE". instead you'll see "All players wounded -> 1 xp and add mission x" We're about halfway through the first campaign, and I've just got two players - so they have an additional activation each, and +10 hp. There's definite moments where having additional characters would benefit them more, and definite moments where they have an advantage over four single-activation characters, but it shakes out pretty well. They've lost two of the missions, one story and one side mission, and it's been really good to have those losses in there, as it ensures that the stakes for each mission are understood to be more than lip service. As the Imperial, I've had a lot of fun both stumping and being stumped by the Rebels. There's some definite power pieces that can be just brutal for the players to deal with - The Royal Guard Champion is the big one, but elite Trandoshans that get to spawn close to the PCs are also rough. I've actually gotten a lot of mileage out of the elite stormtroopers, as well, I've geared my upgrades towards cheaper, better stormtroopers, and it's been a lot of fun seeing them go from chumps in the first couple missions, to three-man terror squads that the players have to deal with quickly. It's a fun game.
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Need some spoilers on the class card lists up in here.
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I usually don't have trouble with FFG manuals, but I feel that there is a complete lack of detail in setting up as the Imperial player. Perhaps it's because the game is new so I have no visual video evidence to check on YouTube, but I can't help but think that there is an entire rule book missing.
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Shes Not Impressed posted:I usually don't have trouble with FFG manuals, but I feel that there is a complete lack of detail in setting up as the Imperial player. Perhaps it's because the game is new so I have no visual video evidence to check on YouTube, but I can't help but think that there is an entire rule book missing. You have to refer all over the place. They have switched to this Rules Reference Guide system for their games and it makes learning to play just awful
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All you have to do is read through the quick play book once and you know all the basics, then look at the reference for any rules questions that come up. Was pretty simple for my group and I to figure it out.
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Session 2 down: I won a game as an Imperial last night! Despite that, man is this frustrating as the Imperial player sometimes. The Wookie and Jedi are straight up fuckers. I've nicknamed the Wookie "Surge-enomics," as he just seems to get surges all over the place, and it feels like one of those scams where someone tries to make change with you and ends up ahead. The other players are telling me it's legit, but jeez it's hard pinning him down. And Force Throw not allowing any defense roll just sucks out loud. The Smuggler and Jedi have done their personal missions completed, so now I also have a lightsaber and Madam Shoots First, too. Jeesh! Despite all that, I do enjoy myself and have a lot of fun. I just think that next time someone ELSE gets to play Imperial. 
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