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I know Fale is IC champion but should he really be higher than Anderson?
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At this point, probably.
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Sep 11, 2014 05:16
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7DZwDzIZzY where has this el desperado been in new japan? he even managed to do a spear that didn't look like poo poo. maybe they should take the mask off him since his facial expressions here are pretty good.
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Sep 11, 2014 05:35
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Flameingblack posted:I know Fale is IC champion but should he really be higher than Anderson? I wouldn't be thinking too hard about a chart that has the champion in a section marked Challengers.
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Sep 11, 2014 06:12
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That chart reminded me that Hiromu Takahashi was still on excursion. Has anyone seen anything of him lately? I'm not up on my CMLL but he doesn't seem to be "out there" as much as Watanabe.
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Sep 11, 2014 06:47
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Observer's out:quote:Although still junior heavyweight weight wise, Kota Ibushi said he will not be looking for a rematch with Kushida for the IWGP jr. title and will compete from this point forward as a heavyweight. Kenny Omega, his longtime tag team partner in DDT, has said the same thing. Ibushi said that his goal is to win the IWGP heavyweight title as well as win next year’s G-1 Climax tournament that he missed this year due to a concussion. Ibushi said he’s legitimately 202 pounds, up from 189, although in Japan, the junior heavyweight limit is 220. Dave expects a Styles/Tanahashi title match to headline King of Pro Wrestling. This is just purely my own conjecture and nothing he said, but doesn't it look like Okada/Tanahashi VII will headline the Dome? I'm guessing Styles is going to drop it and I hope he does simply because we've already seen 4 main event matches involving Okada and Styles this year. I'd personally prefer Okada/Nakamura or Nakamura/Styles, but it'll be somewhat fresh again since they've been smart enough to keep away from Okada/Tana this year and their matches are always great.
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Sep 11, 2014 07:52
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Spermgod posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7DZwDzIZzY I have high hopes for the Time Splitters feud.
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Sep 11, 2014 07:53
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Ibushi isn't exactly heavyweight weight class, but he's like Cesaro where he's just deceptively tough and strong. Ibushi can hang just fine with the heavyweight division, he's just about the exact same size as Tanahashi is.
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Sep 11, 2014 08:24
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Thauros posted:Observer's out: I predict they will do something to make us think Tanahashi is winning, Dave will expect it, New Japan will tell him he doesn't understand wrestling and AJ retains!
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Sep 11, 2014 08:58
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NotQuiteQuentin posted:That chart reminded me that Hiromu Takahashi was still on excursion. Has anyone seen anything of him lately? I'm not up on my CMLL but he doesn't seem to be "out there" as much as Watanabe. He appears pretty frequently in CMLL trios as Kamaitachi. Seems like kind of a whatever guy to me but it's hard to get a good handle on how good a guy is in those matches.
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Sep 11, 2014 09:49
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Flameingblack posted:Ibushi isn't exactly heavyweight weight class, but he's like Cesaro where he's just deceptively tough and strong. Ibushi can hang just fine with the heavyweight division, he's just about the exact same size as Tanahashi is. I read through the tier chart (lol) just to see where all those guys are from, didn't know Ibushi was from Kagoshima (KYUUUUSHUUUU!!!), I bet when he speaks in his local dialect its nigh-on incomprehensible. and also god no wonder Lance Archer and Fale look so huge, I'd tower over the likes of Nakamura and Tanahashi myself. almost makes me want to get in shape and become a next-generation Stan Hansen.
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Sep 11, 2014 09:53
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MassRafTer posted:I wouldn't be thinking too hard about a chart that has the champion in a section marked Challengers. Well, the top tier is for aces. AJ Styles might be the champ, but he's not an ace.
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Sep 11, 2014 09:56
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Hijo Del Helmsley posted:Well, the top tier is for aces. AJ Styles might be the champ, but he's not an ace. First of all, the joke is that he's the champion in a tier labeled challengers in a chart that is somehow supposed to be kayfabe. Second, You can't have three aces in a company. You can't have three in a deck. In wrestling there is one ace in a company and right now AJ Styles has an argument for being the best performer in NJPW. He wouldn't be considered an "ace" because he works limited dates but that chart is stupid.
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Sep 11, 2014 10:09
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MassRafTer posted:First of all, the joke is that he's the champion in a tier labeled challengers in a chart that is somehow supposed to be kayfabe. Second, You can't have three aces in a company. You can't have three in a deck. In wrestling there is one ace in a company and right now AJ Styles has an argument for being the best performer in NJPW. He wouldn't be considered an "ace" because he works limited dates but that chart is stupid. You can't have three aces in a company? Misawa/Kobashi/Taue/Kawada. Muta/Hashimoto/Chono. And even if we have to narrow it to one ace, it's still certainly not AJ, it's Tanahashi.
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Sep 11, 2014 10:16
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MassRafTer posted:First of all, the joke is that he's the champion in a tier labeled challengers in a chart that is somehow supposed to be kayfabe. Second, You can't have three aces in a company. You can't have three in a deck. In wrestling there is one ace in a company and right now AJ Styles has an argument for being the best performer in NJPW. He wouldn't be considered an "ace" because he works limited dates but that chart is stupid. uh yeah you can have 3 aces in a deck, you just need a fourth as well.
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Sep 11, 2014 10:16
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I really hope Ibushi doesn't lose his mobility while bulking up. Some of the most threatening looking heavyweights like Shibata and Masato Tanaka are technically under the weight limit so gently caress it, really.
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Tonfa posted:I really hope Ibushi doesn't lose his mobility while bulking up. Some of the most threatening looking heavyweights like Shibata and Masato Tanaka are technically under the weight limit so gently caress it, really. Remember: Ishii is technically a Jr.
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Sep 11, 2014 11:57
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Hijo Del Helmsley posted:You can't have three aces in a company? Misawa/Kobashi/Taue/Kawada. Muta/Hashimoto/Chono. Taue was never considered an ace by anybody, and neither was Hashimoto (hence him loving off elsewhere) until he started his own company. The other guys had their days in the sun, but Kawada in particular had to basically wait until Misawa was gone before he was AJPW's ace. And Kobashi didn't really get a chance to TRULY run with the ball until his historic reign in NOAH, when Misawa's age made him take a back seat. Also, Chono was a main-eventer but was never NJPW's ace. The difference between a main-eventer and an ace in Japan is like the difference between John Cena and any number of important guys like Orton and Bryan. If the latter two get hurt, the WWE panics. If Cena does, they panic and start running around declaring the sky is falling.
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Sep 11, 2014 16:03
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The top 3 guys in NJPW are definitely on a more pushed level than anyone else though. They're the centerpieces of the company's marketing and featured on all the posters. Even on the BOSJ poster Tana, Okada, and Shinsuke were front and center while the guys actually in the tournament had smaller head shots off to the side. Tana definitely seemed to be "the ace" in 2012-2013, but all three of their top stars seem on a fairly equal level now. All three are capable of main eventing a show but I can't remember a main event without any of them involved since I started watching in 2012. I'm not familiar enough with '90s AJPW/ 2000's NOAH outside of isolated really great matches to comment on how their situation compared. Thauros fucked around with this message at 16:19 on Sep 11, 2014 |
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Sep 11, 2014 16:13
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Thauros posted:The top 3 guys in NJPW are definitely on a more pushed level than anyone else though and are the centerpiece of their marketing and featured on all the posters. Even on the BOSJ poster Tana, Okada, and Shinsuke were front and center while the guys actually in the tournament had smaller head shots off to the side. Things have definitely changed in Japanese wrestling in general, but in the 90's you pretty much had every company designating one guy as their ace.
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El Gallinero Gros posted:Taue was never considered an ace by anybody, and neither was Hashimoto (hence him loving off elsewhere) until he started his own company. The other guys had their days in the sun, but Kawada in particular had to basically wait until Misawa was gone before he was AJPW's ace. And Kobashi didn't really get a chance to TRULY run with the ball until his historic reign in NOAH, when Misawa's age made him take a back seat. Also, Chono was a main-eventer but was never NJPW's ace.
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Sep 11, 2014 17:37
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Illinois Smith posted:Who the gently caress was New Japan's 90s ace in your mind if it wasn't Hash? Mutoh? Or Fujinami(for the early 90's anyway)? I mean Hash in retrospect had more success than I remember him having, so you could make an argument for him too.
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Sep 11, 2014 17:58
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I told my wife I wanted a Bullet Club shirt for my birthday and she then went on a tirade about how ugly it is. Well yeah it's ugly, but it's so ugly it loops around again to be great. That's the point 
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Sep 11, 2014 19:46
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triplexpac posted:I told my wife I wanted a Bullet Club shirt for my birthday and she then went on a tirade about how ugly it is. sever e; i'll probably never get tired of okada/tana matches but i was hoping to maybe see nakamura/styles. oh well, c'est la vie Joey McChrist fucked around with this message at 20:04 on Sep 11, 2014 |
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Sep 11, 2014 19:48
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Joey McChrist posted:sever Yeah, I'd have preferred it to be a new matchup, but gently caress it, it's a matchup that's already gave us two five-star matches, including my favourite match of all time (Invasion Attack 2013). Complaining about it just feels like biting the hand that feeds me.
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Sep 11, 2014 20:20
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triplexpac posted:I told my wife I wanted a Bullet Club shirt for my birthday and she then went on a tirade about how ugly it is. It really is an ugly shirt, though. Its looks like an MMA fighter's walkout shirt.
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Sep 11, 2014 20:24
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It's a great match but I feel like I could go another year without seeing Okada/Tanahashi again. Give me something new and exciting.
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Sep 11, 2014 21:06
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I don't think Tanahashi is going to beat Styles again triplexpac posted:I told my wife I wanted a Bullet Club shirt for my birthday and she then went on a tirade about how ugly it is. tell her you want the one with blood on it because it makes it ten times cooler
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Sep 11, 2014 21:38
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A little historical gem: Nakamura vs Shibata...ten years ago.
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Sep 13, 2014 19:30
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That Nakamura hoodie towel on Yottsume's site is boss as gently caress and I need you guys to talk me out of buying one.
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Sep 13, 2014 19:43
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Fauxhawk Express posted:That Nakamura hoodie towel on Yottsume's site is boss as gently caress and I need you guys to talk me out of buying one. you will have less money if you buy one
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Sep 13, 2014 20:11
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Fauxhawk Express posted:That Nakamura hoodie towel on Yottsume's site is boss as gently caress and I need you guys to talk me out of buying one. if you only buy one, you won't have two
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Sep 14, 2014 05:02
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We're one week away from Destruction in Kobe!
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Sep 14, 2014 06:37
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quote:TheUnderbossVerified account @TOKSFALE Just found out about this, what's the name of the movie in romanji? Wouldn't mind checking it out if it becomes possible in the future. 
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Sep 16, 2014 17:27
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When do 4th Jan Dome show tickets go on sale?
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Sep 16, 2014 19:16
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they just released info about that today - http://www.njpw.co.jp/news/detail.php?nid=12365 general sale october 18 and earlier pre-sales for fanclub or something
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Sep 16, 2014 19:18
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Thauros posted:Just found out about this, what's the name of the movie in romanji? Wouldn't mind checking it out if it becomes possible in the future. I ran the Kanji through a translator and it roughly translated to "hey I was in my first movie"
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Sep 16, 2014 19:21
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Has there been any word/rumour/anything on a new iPPV arrangement? I swear to god if I can't get my fix I'm going to go nuts
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Sep 16, 2014 20:20
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masato tatanka posted:they just released info about that today - http://www.njpw.co.jp/news/detail.php?nid=12365 Cool. Thanks. I might be in Tokyo in January so might try to get tickets.
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  The collection begins.
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