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Scrub-Niggurath
Nov 27, 2007

Origins: oh cool there's a bunch of different spells too bad like half of them are useless poo poo. Mmm yes good thing there's like 5 elemental weapons, a billion debuffs when only like 3 are any good, and like 10 anti magic spells that will almost never get used

DA2: in 3 spell slots I've got offensive and defensive anti magic, all 3 party auras from origins, and every elemental weapon, leaving me more room for cool poo poo like fisting the maker (Da2 only spell). Also the specializations are cool and not stupid anymore

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Silver Striker
May 22, 2013

why wouldnt you like a mage specialization that is based off of strength and casting no magic and is also terrible?

Eye of Widesauron
Mar 29, 2014

Does Shale make an appearance in 2

Scrub-Niggurath
Nov 27, 2007

Widestancer posted:

Does Shale make an appearance in 2

Oh yeah I forgot thanks for making the best companion in the game a day 1 DLC bonus

Eye of Widesauron
Mar 29, 2014

Scrub-Niggurath posted:

Oh yeah I forgot thanks for making the best companion in the game a day 1 DLC bonus

Pigeon Crap

Plebian Parasite
Oct 12, 2012

DA:O fireballs were really powerful and useful. One of gamings better fireballs.

Abysswalker
Apr 25, 2013

in grand d&d tradition, magic is quite overpowered in da:o. there's no reason not to bring 2 mages

Mung Dynasty
Jul 19, 2003

Why do the peasants slave while the emperor gets to eat all the mung?!
so is melee but dont say that to anyone or theyll think ur a fukken casual dudebro ruining rpgs when in fact action combat is cool and good and not for loser nerds who like numbers

Mung Dynasty
Jul 19, 2003

Why do the peasants slave while the emperor gets to eat all the mung?!
the rest of the game is just about the worst thing ive played in recent memory though and i mean it

Silver Striker
May 22, 2013

Mung Dynasty posted:

so is melee but dont say that to anyone or theyll think ur a fukken casual dudebro ruining rpgs when in fact action combat is cool and good and not for loser nerds who like numbers

this is true, with a properly built rogue you can deal enough damage to break the scripting on certain fights

it's just really easy to drop a storm of the century or two on just about any enemy pack and have it completely demolish them. this works perfectly even on nightmare and the battle you're supposed to lose

Falsum
May 10, 2013

Crazy for the Bros
The magic staff attack animations are stupid looking in DA2.

Knuc U Kinte
Aug 17, 2004

Mung Dynasty posted:

so is melee but dont say that to anyone or theyll think ur a fukken casual dudebro ruining rpgs when in fact action combat is cool and good and not for loser nerds who like numbers

human being.

Knuc U Kinte
Aug 17, 2004

You need to be lobotomised if you haven't already been, for throwing around the n-word and acting like a casual retard in the PC Gaming Forum.

The Sharmat
Sep 5, 2011

by Lowtax
Shale was just HK-47 and I don't see the big deal about him when he's already been done better

Knuc U Kinte
Aug 17, 2004

Ya Shale was Hk-47 Lite except not even useful in combat a little bit.

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

getting a finger cut off is better than being castrated

also shale is a girl you baka gaijin

The Sharmat
Sep 5, 2011

by Lowtax
I didn't play Origins long enough to find that out

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

The Sharmat posted:

I didn't play Origins long enough to find that out
then don't post about it pisslord

us adults are trying to have a civilized conversation and you come in here swinging around half-informed opinions

The Sharmat
Sep 5, 2011

by Lowtax
that's a trap. it's always either "how do you know you didn't like it if you didn't play it" or "why did you play the whole thing if you didn't like it?"

there's no way to win with games opinions

Moola
Aug 16, 2006
I paid full price for DA2 on day 1

go ahead

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

The Sharmat posted:

that's a trap. it's always either "how do you know you didn't like it if you didn't play it" or "why did you play the whole thing if you didn't like it?"

there's no way to win with games opinions

LaTex Fetish
Oct 11, 2010

a slim pixie
Dec 29, 2008

an earworm burrowed into my frontal lobe

Knuc U Kinte posted:

Ya Shale was Hk-47 Lite except not even useful in combat a little bit.

um what

HK-47 was a ranged-weapons user in a game where ranged weapon builds were bad and much worse than lightsabers, and could only be healed by droid-specific consumables instead of free force healing. Kotor 2 just fixed the ranged weapons part. Shale was a decent damage dealer and crowd controller, a good party-buffer, and a great tank who couldn't be knocked down or picked up. She's a cheat companion in a game that can already be broken in a bunch of different ways.

Knuc U Kinte
Aug 17, 2004

Shale can definitely be knocked down and she isn't very good at any of her specialisations. Her party buff mode sucks because she can't move and gets penalties to defence, so unless you pumped the lovely constitution stat specifically to make her job to be a retarded thing that can;t move and gives you crappy buffs you are gonna get killed. Your'e right about her being good at crowd control which is worthless because she is about as strong defensively as wet tissue as a wet tissue cf Alistair the Homosexual Templar. She probably rules if you play on easy tho.

Silver Striker
May 22, 2013

i ran with shale on nightmare and didnt have an issue




i also used 3 mages so i'm pretty sure the game would have been easy even if i used the dog

Eye of Widesauron
Mar 29, 2014

I used Shale until I realized how much better you can make other characters as tanks

Also lol force field

Buschmaki
Dec 26, 2012

‿︵‿︵‿︵‿Lean Addict︵‿︵‿︵‿

Moola posted:

I paid full price for DA2 on day 1

go ahead

I pre-ordered this poo poo game!!!

DoubleDonut
Oct 22, 2010


Fallen Rib
People say DA2 is a bad game, but what they don't realize is that DA:O is also pretty lovely!

The Sharmat
Sep 5, 2011

by Lowtax
I didn't finish DAO but what I played of it felt like a thoroughly "okay" game. Not bad but nothing special either

Ragg
Apr 27, 2003

<The Honorable Badgers>
their both awful but da2 has better systems.

Ragg
Apr 27, 2003

<The Honorable Badgers>
I cant play dao because i cant resist fully exploring and killing all the poo poo i nthe deep roads.

Scrub-Niggurath
Nov 27, 2007

DA2:

-better combat
-better party members/party banter
-more interesting location


DAO:

-had a level designer
-bonus points for new IP

Knuc U Kinte
Aug 17, 2004

Scrub-Niggurath posted:

DA2:

-better combat
-better party members/party banter
-more interesting location


DAO:

-had a level designer
-bonus points for new IP

No.

Knuc U Kinte
Aug 17, 2004

The trolls in this forum have concrete between their ears.

Soral
May 30, 2009

Scrub-Niggurath posted:

DA2:

-better combat
-better party members/party banter
-more interesting location


DAO:

-had a level designer
-bonus points for new IP

"scrub" niggurath is right!!! what a buffoon!

Soral
May 30, 2009

just a real joker we got here, boys. a real clown.

Soral
May 30, 2009

shakin my dang head at this dummy

The Sharmat
Sep 5, 2011

by Lowtax

Scrub-Niggurath posted:

-better party members/party banter

remember when Isabella said "I like big boats and I cannot lie"

I'm saying your posting is like a big butt, except I don't want it

I dunno the metaphor kind of fell apart. DA2 has poo poo writing

Scrub-Niggurath
Nov 27, 2007

the character returning from shitgame DAO is the worst party member what a surprise

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The Sharmat
Sep 5, 2011

by Lowtax

Scrub-Niggurath posted:

the character returning from shitgame DAO is the worst party member what a surprise
it took characters from DAO and made them significantly worse. it's an accomplishment

I mean christ look at Merrill

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