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Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

Coca Koala posted:

Grover won the Grand Finals with Rise, playing against a Mitsuru. Fun matches to watch, even if it was a bunch of Day 1/2 stuff for the new characters.
These getting youtube uploaded anywhere?

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apple
May 18, 2003

Jose in the club wearing orange suspenders
Speaking of Rise, her rhythm game super is hilariously lenient

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0rWgiIjjRU

Astral Heats/Instant Kills are one thing, but I never thought I'd see a normal super take more time than SF4 ultras :regd09:

WilltheMagicAsian
Dec 11, 2011

apple posted:

Speaking of Rise, her rhythm game super is hilariously lenient

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0rWgiIjjRU

Astral Heats/Instant Kills are one thing, but I never thought I'd see a normal super take more time than SF4 ultras :regd09:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQAeUYhyNHQ

drat I regret missing the P4U2 exhibition at Evo, I was just playing at the CVS2 cabs the whole time

Party Bug
Mar 13, 2008

SALT BECOMES EMPOWERMENT
My favorite thing to do during Rise's rhythm super is open my PSN inbox and send a message to whoever I'm playing. I always have enough time to finish by the time it ends.

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

Fuck the DH
I know the story of Persona 4 from the anime and Giant Bomb Endurance Run. Do I need to play Persona 4 Arena before this, or is it like Ultra SF4 or what.

Sorry for the weird question, but the original game is still a little pricey and I have no idea what to make of a fighting game that apparently develops the plot of a JRPG franchise.

EDIT: To make it more confusing, between P4A Ultra or whatever it was called, and this, I never buy because there's another game announced before the present one reaches my budget HALP

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

It's a sequel storywise to P4A's story, but you could read a let's play or something of the first game's story.

Butt Ghost
Nov 23, 2013

I think P4A2 may include P4A1, but I'm not too sure on that. Either way, the story is pretty dumb, so you won't really be missing much aside from some fun goofy bits.

Shadow Ninja 64
May 21, 2007

"I stood there, wondering why the puck was getting bigger...

and then it hit me."


I was surprised to see that Rise has some pretty decently damaging combos after all: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQlXspxIZIs

Good screen carry, too.

Gutcruncher
Apr 16, 2005

Go home and be a family man!

apple posted:

Speaking of Rise, her rhythm game super is hilariously lenient

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0rWgiIjjRU

Astral Heats/Instant Kills are one thing, but I never thought I'd see a normal super take more time than SF4 ultras :regd09:

Is the timer still counting down? If so, this is perhaps the greatest super in any game ever

djB0N3RZ
Feb 24, 2011

Which DECIDE matches you?
The timer does indeed keep going during the super and if you time out during it then the game just stays in the super animation for about 10 extra seconds for some reason before just ending the round. Also since the super doesn't do damage until the end you could totally screw yourself by timing yourself out with a health deficit.

In Training
Jun 28, 2008

I'm very excited to see someone win a high stakes match by timing out their opponent with the super animation.

Squallege
Jan 7, 2006

No greater good, no just cause

Grimey Drawer
Junpei Iori "He may have a beard, but he's not a pervert" :v:

WilltheMagicAsian
Dec 11, 2011

Butt Ghost posted:

I think P4A2 may include P4A1, but I'm not too sure on that. Either way, the story is pretty dumb, so you won't really be missing much aside from some fun goofy bits.

You can buy the story from the first game to play in P4U2

BreakAtmo
May 16, 2009

WilltheMagicAsian posted:

You can buy the story from the first game to play in P4U2

Isn't there a special 'P1-GP' mode in the base version of Ultimax, though? What I read was that P1-GP is a streamlined, 'canon' version of Arena's Story Mode that plays all in one go (in other words, all you really need before playing Ultimax's story), while the arena Story Mode DLC is the original Story Mode in its entirety with nothing cut. Is this untrue?

Captain Baal
Oct 23, 2010

I Failed At Anime 2022
There is no P1-GP mode in base Ultimax, if there is then it's the most difficult thing to find ever because I still haven't seen it. The entire P4 Arena story is in the game files however and I know it's available on PSN for like 1500 yen in Japan to get the entire story.

BreakAtmo
May 16, 2009

Beef Waifu posted:

There is no P1-GP mode in base Ultimax, if there is then it's the most difficult thing to find ever because I still haven't seen it. The entire P4 Arena story is in the game files however and I know it's available on PSN for like 1500 yen in Japan to get the entire story.

Yeah - it also comes with the Premium Newcomer Package in Japan, right? Have we heard anything about the Story Mode DLC coming to the US?

Captain Baal
Oct 23, 2010

I Failed At Anime 2022
It will be purchaseable too separately for like 15 bucks too. I mean they're already giving Adachi and Marie away for free so I don't imagine they'll be as nice about stuff you don't already own.

BreakAtmo
May 16, 2009

Beef Waifu posted:

It will be purchaseable too separately for like 15 bucks too. I mean they're already giving Adachi and Marie away for free so I don't imagine they'll be as nice about stuff you don't already own.

Really? It's just that I've looked all over the place for information about the Story Mode DLC being made available outside of Japan and found zilch. Was this confirmed somewhere?

Dred Cosmonaut
Jan 6, 2010

There once was a tiger-striped cat.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xTjrDevsZg

oh my god they recast margaret too? this dub is poo poo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkDA8dKZDEY

lol naoto sucks too

Dred Cosmonaut fucked around with this message at 18:36 on Sep 1, 2014

Captain Baal
Oct 23, 2010

I Failed At Anime 2022

BreakAtmo posted:

Really? It's just that I've looked all over the place for information about the Story Mode DLC being made available outside of Japan and found zilch. Was this confirmed somewhere?

I doubt ArcSys is going to miss an opportunity to milk people for more money and since the entire first game's story mode is already translated wh would they not add it for the English version either? Like all of the DLC is coming to America, it always does, this game will not be different.

Excels
Mar 7, 2012

Your plastic pal who's fun to be with!
Yeah the dub is pretty bad across the board for this one. Is there any confirmation on dual-audio files for Story Mode?

Captain Baal
Oct 23, 2010

I Failed At Anime 2022
Why would there not be when the Japanese version had it and the English version of Arena had it?

WilltheMagicAsian
Dec 11, 2011

Yeah, just set the English voices to JP.

Squallege
Jan 7, 2006

No greater good, no just cause

Grimey Drawer
Even Igor's voice changed. He's only appeared once so far in the story but the character select voice is still the same?

Captain Baal
Oct 23, 2010

I Failed At Anime 2022
Yes the character select voice is the same, Igor's only changed because Dan Woren wasn't there to rerecord lines.

Butt Ghost
Nov 23, 2013

I kind of like Igor's new voice. That's what I imagined he sounded like before I heard his old voice.

Captain Baal
Oct 23, 2010

I Failed At Anime 2022
Adachi's out now and he's a neat character that I will probably never play.

ACES CURE PLANES
Oct 21, 2010



So, someone figured out that Adachi has some weird combo routes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OA6j-RCAdnQ

Most of it revolves around cancelling the second part of 2C (the upwards Magatsu dash/grab) with shorthop, and using j.C to send the opponent back down straight to you. It's twice as awkward in execution as it sounds, but damned if it isn't cool.

Excels
Mar 7, 2012

Your plastic pal who's fun to be with!

S-Alpha posted:

So, someone figured out that Adachi has some weird combo routes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OA6j-RCAdnQ

Squallege
Jan 7, 2006

No greater good, no just cause

Grimey Drawer
Adachi's out in Japan and he's pretty cool. The way he walks backward is great.

Oxxidation
Jul 22, 2007

Dred Cosmonaut posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xTjrDevsZg

oh my god they recast margaret too? this dub is poo poo

You're seriously mourning Margaret's old voice? She sounded like a coma patient.

THE AWESOME GHOST
Oct 21, 2005

drat Adachi sort of reminds me of Axel with that long range pullback stuff. Basically the Persona functions as his chain. Anyone else see it ?

Captain Baal
Oct 23, 2010

I Failed At Anime 2022
Adachi is Jank the Character.

apple
May 18, 2003

Jose in the club wearing orange suspenders
Speaking of Adachi

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npW4LB3Anys

He has unblockable resets

They hurt

Shadow Ninja 64
May 21, 2007

"I stood there, wondering why the puck was getting bigger...

and then it hit me."


How burst safe is it? It would suck to spend 75 meter and give up the corner just to have them burst at the first available opportunity. That's sort of the problem with Shadow Rise's shenanigan of blockstring -> Shadow Rampage -> stuff into SB Arrow Rain into stuff into DDR super to force the unblockable, too. Shadow Rise gives up a lot more for less reward there if bursted, though.

apple
May 18, 2003

Jose in the club wearing orange suspenders

Shadow Ninja 64 posted:

How burst safe is it? It would suck to spend 75 meter and give up the corner just to have them burst at the first available opportunity. That's sort of the problem with Shadow Rise's shenanigan of blockstring -> Shadow Rampage -> stuff into SB Arrow Rain into stuff into DDR super to force the unblockable, too. Shadow Rise gives up a lot more for less reward there if bursted, though.

The second combo in the video is pretty clearly burst-safe: you're either silenced, in a grab (doesn't let you burst), or too far to hit Adachi with the burst. All these combos silence you through most of their duration anyway, so bursting is still extremely risky since there's only a small window where you CAN actually try to burst.

Shadow Ninja 64
May 21, 2007

"I stood there, wondering why the puck was getting bigger...

and then it hit me."


apple posted:

The second combo in the video is pretty clearly burst-safe: you're either silenced, in a grab (doesn't let you burst), or too far to hit Adachi with the burst. All these combos silence you through most of their duration anyway, so bursting is still extremely risky since there's only a small window where you CAN actually try to burst.

Thanks for answering my question; I forgot Silence doesn't let you burst.


Unrelated, but this guy using custom firmware to play Marie made a neat video showcasing her ability to convert AoA into some really strong damage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3NVr-_a6vk

He also has a long, unedited stream archive sorta video where he just messes around and tries to figure stuff out with her: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYy2VuRIl2Y

The_Frag_Man
Mar 26, 2005

Has anyone heard of when this will be available in Europe? I'm guessing if I import I wont get the free/any dlc.

Captain Baal
Oct 23, 2010

I Failed At Anime 2022
The free DLC is going to be free on the store for the whole week of the game's release. There's no code or anything, it's just gonna be Adachi and Marie free on the store.

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The_Frag_Man
Mar 26, 2005

Beef Waifu posted:

The free DLC is going to be free on the store for the whole week of the game's release. There's no code or anything, it's just gonna be Adachi and Marie free on the store.

Maybe on the NA store but not (yet) on the EUR one, I dunno if you can even use a import one with EUR dlc whenever it does come out. I guess it doesn't matter though, I'll import it anyway.

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