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Not trying to bash legal brothels or anything with this question. You said a lot of brothels do get run by crime organizations. How common is it to hear about girls being pushed into the position to do it, or is it well regulated enough that it happens less then one would think it does? Are drugs a big no no? Like if some one wanted to add a little extra fun with ecstasy, Viagra, coke etc would it be something that got you fired or kicked out. Are any girls super good at certain things? Last one. Collection of toys on hand? Joke question. Goon discount?
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Darth Freddy posted:Are drugs a big no no? Like if some one wanted to add a little extra fun with ecstasy, Viagra, coke etc would it be something that got you fired or kicked out. So this story about the "Party Package" is less than a week old. I'm sure it's not indicative of the industry as a whole but it's certainly not unheard of.
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Hydrolith posted:Well, I know that laws on prostitution vary from state to state... Brothels are legal in NSW, VIC and apparently Queensland. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_in_Australia). We're a fully licensed brothel, but as a business we decided on the services that would be offered. Advertising is a completely separate and bullshit set of rules and regulations. A brothel or sex worker can not advertise (in print or online) services available. Anal and vaginal sex are still considered completely separate (and both are not allowed in my current workplace), and are charged at much different rates by the girls. Those that I know offer anal in the industry don't offer it to all clients, and charge a premium rate. House Louse posted:Blowjobs, too, in some states. GWBBQ posted:How do zoning laws in Australia work with this kind of thing? Who owns the house, is it taxed as business or residential property, do you have restrictions on parking? There are a few regulations, ie: nothing within 200m of schools, child care, hospitals and religious buildings, taxed as a business property, a max of 6 rooms, must have showers installed in each room. A lot of these regulations don't apply to inner-city brothels (in terms of property placement and number of rooms) especially if they existed before the Sex Work Act 1994.
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Darth Freddy posted:Not trying to bash legal brothels or anything with this question. You said a lot of brothels do get run by crime organizations. How common is it to hear about girls being pushed into the position to do it, or is it well regulated enough that it happens less then one would think it does? Drugs on the premises are highly illegal (in Vic alcohol is also illegal), and girls caught using are told to leave. What happens in the rooms generally stays in the rooms, though. We don't know what the clients are bringing in with them, and if a girl chooses to partake we don't know about it, although it is generally discouraged, because it can make the girls hard to work with. I do not and will never supply drugs to clients or girls. Clients who ask are asked to leave the premises. "All our girls are very good at their jobs". But seriously, I dunno. They all have different personalities, so some are great at a teasing/light hearted sort of service, some are more sultry, some give a great "girlfriend experience" (GFE). In terms of who give the best blowjobs? I dunno, I can't afford it. The shop has a few lengths of rope, and a mini vibrator, everything else is left up to the girls to supply. A few have repeat clients that like certain outfits (school girl/nurse/whatever - one reeeeaaaalllllyyyyy likes one of our girls in super tight gym pants - loves the camel toe look). Some clients bring toys with them (always new, sealed in packaging - the girls won't used opened toys) and the girls get to keep the toys after. And no, if I could offer a Goon discount I'd never be rid of your fuckers. I always wonder if I have come across anyone before, though. There's a few clients I've suspected. (Others are obvious 4chan-ers. Ugggghhhhhh) Aryan Jesus posted:So this story about the "Party Package" is less than a week old. I'm sure it's not indicative of the industry as a whole but it's certainly not unheard of. Definitely not indicative of the industry, at least down here. NSW has some of the most relaxed laws in regards to sex work, and there are a lot more shops than in Vic, so I can't talk for the state of the industry up there. In terms of what I think of that article and the claims against the brothel, if they are offering that, I'm loving disgusted. It's one thing to turn a blind eye to what the client is bringing in, at least until it causes trouble, but if they're supplying drugs to clients and their girls, particularly when it's leaving girls unconscious and/or dead, that is hosed. Absolutely hosed. I hope the business owners end up in prison for it, if that's the case.
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Sep 3, 2014 06:35
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Poopy posted:Others are obvious 4chan-ers. Ugggghhhhhh Now you can't say something like that and not elaborate.
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Sep 3, 2014 06:58
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Poopy posted:(Others are obvious 4chan-ers. Ugggghhhhhh) I shudder to think. 
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Sep 3, 2014 11:19
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Are any of the clients women?
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Sep 3, 2014 19:40
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Have two people ever come in for one session or is that even allowed? Something like a guy/girl come and want the guy tugged while the girl watches or guy/guy and they both get tugged. It's weird that I picture your building on a street with dense trees all around.
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Sep 4, 2014 01:42
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darth cookie posted:Now you can't say something like that and not elaborate. Grimlook posted:Are any of the clients women? BouncingBuckyBalls posted:Have two people ever come in for one session or is that even allowed? Something like a guy/girl come and want the guy tugged while the girl watches or guy/guy and they both get tugged. Putting these two together. Sometimes, not very often. Ladies tend to head to full service parlours, or places that have male workers. We do get the occasional lady, and they're always chill. It's more common for one guy to book two ladies,but we do occasionally get couples in, and they always have a good time. Only had one argument about pricing with a couple where they didn't want to pay the full booking price for each of them, but that's just how it works. Never had two guys come into be serviced together, they might come in together but will book separately. Their egos seem to be too fragile to see another dudes dick. And that's totally not weird at all, because that is essentially what we have. Just a repurposed house with a huge bushy hedge out the front.
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Also, can I just say one thing? If you ever go to a brothel and are asked to shower before hand (most places will have this as a requirement) please, for the love of all things good and sexy, wash your mother loving rear end crack. This is the major complaint about clients from the girls. They go in and shower, the girls get up on the table and start the service, only to be assaulted by the rank smell of sweaty, unwashed rear end crack. 90% of clients don't seem to wash their butts. What the gently caress, guys?
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Sep 4, 2014 02:46
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Poopy posted:Also, can I just say one thing? Poopy indeed.
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Sep 4, 2014 02:48
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Have you ever had to kick any one out for being too unclean?
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Sep 4, 2014 04:47
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If it taint getting rimmed it taint getting cleaned. Ok bad rhyme. Thanks for all the great answers, really interesting to hear from places where its been common and accepted for a while.
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Sep 4, 2014 08:11
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Thanks for the answer. Did any girls ever quit because of something too disgusting or filthy and that was the last straw? Any client ever banned?
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Sep 4, 2014 16:17
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How long does the average employee work there and how long do they spend in the industry overall?
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Sep 4, 2014 18:33
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Tasty_Crayon posted:Have you ever had to kick any one out for being too unclean? I kick clients out for better reasons than being a bit dirty. Grimlook posted:Thanks for the answer. Have banned a couple, mostly for things like repeatedly trying to skip out on paying extras to the girls, and one guy for being a creepy stalker. Best Friends posted:How long does the average employee work there and how long do they spend in the industry overall? In terms of staying with us at the one shop, we have a lot of long-timers. Over 3/4 of our staff have been with us for 2+ years, and the newer girls are all looking likes they're going to hang around too.
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Extremely interesting thread thank you. Just a few quick questions if you don't mind. Do the guys get to pick the girl they want services from ,and how does this selection work? Do the girls just line up? Are you licensed for specific services and that's it or can clients request whatever if the girl is keen and the money is right?
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Sep 5, 2014 11:29
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Do you get enough girls applying or do you have to seek employees? What do they do when they age out of the business? Is it a concern?
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Sep 5, 2014 22:03
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Do any of the girls enter into relationships with their clients? Ie. are there any rules against it. Who's weirder: The girls or the clients (or the management?) tia
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If you're not allowed to advertise how do you get new customers or an established base of costumers? Word of mouth?
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I think you're allowed to advertise, but you can't advertise your services.
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Deadclown posted:Extremely interesting thread thank you. Just a few quick questions if you don't mind. We're fully licensed, so legally pretty much anything goes, but as a business we have restrictions on what the girls can offer, so, as mentioned earlier, no sex (that includes anal), but within reason pretty much anything else goes, if the girl is game. Kuiperdolin posted:Do you get enough girls applying or do you have to seek employees? Thankfully we have a fairly strong roster of regular girls, and interview new girls every few weeks. I probably make one interview appt a week, but probably only 1/4 of the girls that call up actually end up coming in. The girls that call up and have never been in the industry before are the most likely to flake, they call up looking for work because they're broke and desperate, and they chicken out, which is totally understandable, this job is not for everyone. Ageing out of the business isn't really an issue. Some girls only plan to work with us while they're studying, or working out what they want to do, some just do it as a second job for a bit of extra income. The women that do this long term are amazing. They have regular, loyal clients, who are the best. They follow these girls from shop to shop until the girl settles at one, and they stay with her. There's one woman I work with who is in her 40s, has been doing this for 17 years, and has clients who have been seeing her since day one. She has no plans to stop, but when she does, she'll get by. She earns a hell of a lot, she and her husband have built a gigantic house, have a lot of cats and crazy parties. When she leaves the industry it will be because she wants to, not because she's too old. Lief posted:Do any of the girls enter into relationships with their clients? Ie. are there any rules against it. We're all pretty weird. I've walked out to the back room to find three 30+ year old women standing on chairs singing Backstreet Boys into hairbrushes. Honestly, we get some weird clients, weird girls, and I'm certainly not normal, but all in all it's pretty tame. You get the odd client with a non-standard request, but not very often. Agean90 posted:If you're not allowed to advertise how do you get new customers or an established base of costumers? Word of mouth? Lord Windy posted:I think you're allowed to advertise, but you can't advertise your services. We have a website, and are listed on sites like Punter Planet. People know how to use google, and so they find us.
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Poopy posted:We can advertise but there's pretty strict regulations around it, can't use certain words (massage, remedial) can't advertise age. Can't use any avenue other than print media and web (no video, no radio, tv etc). Strict regs on size of advertisements. It's ridiculous. And what is the relationship between strip clubs and brothels? Do strip clubs refer people to brothels? Do many women work at both? Tiggum fucked around with this message at 14:53 on Sep 8, 2014 |
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Is there any specific reason your place doesn't offer full service? Sounds like it's just a choice that was made but isn't it also just cutting off a lot of potential profit? What's the minimumm age for clients? Ever have teens try to use a fake ID or show up and try? Tiggum posted:And what is the relationship between strip clubs and brothels? Do strip clubs refer people to brothels? Do many women work as both? Are there any businesses that combine strip clubs and brothels? Or is that not even possible with laws/regulations.
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Tiggum posted:So brothels can't advertise on billboards and those trucks that just drive around with ads on them like the strip clubs do? There are a few girls that have done both, not many do both at the same time. Some strip clubs will refer clients, but generally to full service places in the city. We had a full service shop refer a couple of clients to us though. I have friends that work in strip clubs and they're mostly okay with the other side of the industry, but most have no interest, and some women can actually be quite horrible about it. Marf Revus posted:Is there any specific reason your place doesn't offer full service? Sounds like it's just a choice that was made but isn't it also just cutting off a lot of potential profit? We make plenty of money without it, so it's not a big deal. Like, by that idea, a women's clothing shop is cutting off a lot of profit by not also offering a men's line, or a burger joint is cutting out profit by not offering fish and chips, but it's not what the business owners want to offer, and if people want men's clothing or fish and chips or full service, they can find it elsewhere and the people that want what we offer can come to us and everyone is happy. Minimum legal age is 18, I've carded a few young looking guys (all except one were older than me, whoops), and after 8 years of checking ids I'm pretty good at picking fakes, and haven't had any. Nope, strip clubs can and do have alcohol, where brothels are 100% not allowed at all under any circumstances at all ever at any time never. Seriously, if I went shopping before work and grabbed a bottle of wine to take home after work and had it on the premises, even locked away in a cupboard or in my handbag unopened and we had an inspection and it was found? Massive fine. Also the licensing and regulations are completely different and in a lot of ways incompatible. So no, they're not combined. There is a push to licence strip clubs the same way as brothels (no alcohol, advertising regulations, stricter licensing practises, etc) but I don't think it's helpful or necessary, but if they did, I think there would be a lot of strip club + brothel venues.
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Is oral without a condom an extra you can get?Poopy posted:after 8 years of checking ids I'm pretty good at picking fakes, and haven't had any. How do you know you're good at it then? This doesn't make sense.  Cool thread tho!
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Do you ever give "Bonuses" to the sluts you are manipulating?
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Sep 13, 2014 07:26
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How do you sleep at night knowing you're charing 120AUD for a simple handy?
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Volume posted:How do you sleep at night knowing you're charing 120AUD for a simple handy? ... on a mattress stuffed with $100 bills?
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Doctor Malaver posted:Is oral without a condom an extra you can get? I'm pretty sure that's illegal in Australia and New Zealand because of safety concerns. There's really not that much difference between oral penetration without a condom and vaginal penetration without a condom.
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Volume posted:How do you sleep at night knowing you're charing 120AUD for a simple handy? Why, how much are you charging?
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Doctor Malaver posted:Is oral without a condom an extra you can get? E whoops forgot the second question. I haven't had a fake in the place I'm working in now. I've seen a lot of fake ids in the last 7 years, I used to sell alcohol and cigarettes and had to card people all the time. Kaal posted:I'm pretty sure that's illegal in Australia and New Zealand because of safety concerns. There's really not that much difference between oral penetration without a condom and vaginal penetration without a condom. Poopy fucked around with this message at 09:41 on Sep 14, 2014 |
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Sep 14, 2014 09:38
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Are at least handies preformed skin on skin, or do the girls carry gloves?Volume posted:How do you sleep at night knowing you're charing 120AUD for a simple handy? Poopy posted:Why, how much are you charging? 
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Doctor Malaver posted:Are at least handies preformed skin on skin, or do the girls carry gloves? It's extra if you want the gloves. Otherwise they just use this. 
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Doctor Malaver posted:Are at least handies preformed skin on skin, or do the girls carry gloves? No condom (or gloves) required for handies. Barriers are generally only required for insertion.
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darth cookie posted:Haggling over that sort of thing is gross. why? If the ethos here is just "it's a service industry, treat it like a service industry like everything else", then why is contract negotiation gross? Unless you're objecting to the whole principle of haggling, in which case that sounds pretty racist.
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Tim Raines IRL posted:why? If the ethos here is just "it's a service industry, treat it like a service industry like everything else", then why is contract negotiation gross? Unless you're objecting to the whole principle of haggling, in which case that sounds pretty racist. Wait, objecting to haggling is racist?
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Poopy posted:Not really, our girls are pretty good at what they do, haha. Oh this reminds me of a question: Since advertising is legally limited, does your company (or other area companies) do other standard marketing practices? I mean things like offer package deals, memberships, coupons, discounts, daily specials, etc. You mention that you don't offer discount rates for regular clients, but why not? They seem to work well for some industries, but since legalized sex work remains fairly distinct from other legal industries I wonder. Plus I'm not sure how I'd feel if I was a sex worker and saw a billboard outside the building that read "Teabag Tuesday 20% OFF" or whatever. Maybe I'd feel cheap, or maybe I'd think, "Hey that's good business!" I don't really know. 
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What would you say to someone who said that what you're doing is degrading to women and aiding in the objectification of females by men? Do you think that prostitution is something that can be empowering to women? I'm not being sarcastic. This is an honest question and I'm curious to hear your response.
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Captain Mog posted:What would you say to someone who said that what you're doing is degrading to women and aiding in the objectification of females by men? Do you think that prostitution is something that can be empowering to women? I'm not being sarcastic. This is an honest question and I'm curious to hear your response. lol
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