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The Saddest Rhino
Apr 29, 2009

Put it all together.
Solve the world.
One conversation at a time.



ok, i'm legit interested in the hotel setting. i even enjoyed the schlock that was 1408 .

was freakshow any good or was it as bad as coven? i stopped somewhere just after the clown got killed by a deus ex machina

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haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal

The Saddest Rhino posted:

ok, i'm legit interested in the hotel setting. i even enjoyed the schlock that was 1408 .

was freakshow any good or was it as bad as coven? i stopped somewhere just after the clown got killed by a deus ex machina

Not as bad as Coven, still not deserving of the title "good".

Last Chance
Dec 31, 2004

I really struggle with the question of which was worse: Coven or Freak Show. They're almost exactly parallel in their terribleness. Coven might have had more cringeworthy stuff though. I'm going to watch this next season though. I don't know why

Spoeank
Jul 16, 2003

That's a nice set of 11 dynasty points there, it would be a shame if 3 rings were to happen with it
Freak Show had Twisty.

Coven had...? Stevie Nicks?

Andrew_1985
Sep 18, 2007
Hay hay hay!
Coven was much worse. Freakshow was just very underwhelming and kinda boring. At least the characters were consistent in FS. Mostly.

Tired Moritz
Mar 25, 2012

wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

(n o i c e)

Chris James 2 posted:

Darren Criss is in Hotel


Can't wait for more creepy shots over his body.
Also, is Coven at least funny bad? Freak Show was really boring except Dandy.

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




Andrew_1985 posted:

Coven was much worse. Freakshow was just very underwhelming and kinda boring. At least the characters were consistent in FS. Mostly.

Yeah but Coven was at least hilarious as gently caress every single episode. Freak Show was so boring I stopped watching it with three episodes to go and only finished it just the other day.

Not to say Freak Show didn't have some merits or funny poo poo in it, but Coven was comedy gold the whole way through.

ultramiraculous
Nov 12, 2003

"No..."
Grimey Drawer
Coven was just a complete, ridiculous train wreck. Watching my friends get really into all the shady bitchiness all season and then get hit with a major "WTF was this entire show" when it ended was especially hilarious. By the second to last episode "YAS QUEEN" had devolved into "yas...queen? what".

Power of Pecota
Aug 4, 2007

Goodness no, now that wouldn't do at all!

The first third of Freak Show (and whenever Dandy was on screen) was legitimately good, which is way more than you can say for Coven.

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




Power of Pecota posted:

The first third of Freak Show (and whenever Dandy was on screen) was legitimately good, which is way more than you can say for Coven.

I won't argue with this. Freak Show definitely started out strong.

TheBizzness
Oct 5, 2004

Reign on me.
Id put Coven slightly ahead of Freekshow.

Covens plot was god awful but it still had a lot of really cool elements and a lot of humor.

Freak show had a handful of neat ancillary characters but the plot was... Well I don't even remember or care about the plot if there was one, it was boring as all hell and had lots of terrible music numbers.

I couldn't tell you one interesting thing That happened in FS that didn't involve Twisty, NPH, Mordrake, or Dandy. The first 3 were in barely half the season combined.

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


News from TCA:

Oct 7 is Hotel's premiere
Lange wanted a year off to do a play
Elise Lam's hotel story inspired the season
Murphy: "True AHS fans love season 1, drama types love season 2, youths love season 3, artsy people love season 4, and Hotel goes back to season 1 feeling with honest, primal fears"
Much more noir-y apparently, and "The horror is sneaking out of the hotel" - Falchuk
Takes place in downtown LA
Characters: Paulson plays "sexy drug addict", Gaga is Elizabeth the owner and has relationships with Bomer and Bassett and Cheyenne Jackson, O'Hare's character is named Elizabeth Taylor, Bates plays hotelrunner Iris, Bomer is Donovan and has "interesting relationships" with the women, Bassett's Ramona (a "sexy actress" fighting over Gaga with Witrock, Chloe Sevigny is Alex Lowell (wife of Wes Bentley's character, and murder investigations bring them to the hotel), Witrock's a male model, Jackson's a fashion icon
The set's their most magnificent yet, has a working elevator, Bates says it's jawdropping
Classic characters start appearing midway through the season


Chris James 2 fucked around with this message at 17:59 on Aug 8, 2015

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!

According to Gaga, today was the first day of filming.

King Vidiot
Feb 17, 2007

You think you can take me at Satan's Hollow? Go 'head on!
Wait wait waitaminute, Dennis O'Hare plays a character named Elizabeth Taylor? Am I reading that right?

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal

King Vidiot posted:

Wait wait waitaminute, Dennis O'Hare plays a character named Elizabeth Taylor? Am I reading that right?

Looks like it. He's the only actor with that name listed and a few googled reports all say the same thing.

Add to the cast list Madchen Amick, as "the mother of a boy who becomes ill".

King Vidiot
Feb 17, 2007

You think you can take me at Satan's Hollow? Go 'head on!
It'd be great if she became a regular fixture of the series, she was one of the best parts of Twin Peaks. Of course that'd come down to me actually watching future seasons of AHS.

I don't know. As much as I love to hate on the show, even at its worst it's so self-indulgent and messy that I can't look away even while I'm hating myself for watching it.

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


King Vidiot posted:

Wait wait waitaminute, Dennis O'Hare plays a character named Elizabeth Taylor? Am I reading that right?

Yep.

In contrast, Lily Rabe is playing actual Aileen Wuornos in the Halloween special.

Highly Unnecessary
Dec 24, 2009

I'm very excited to see this working elevator

the_american_dream
Apr 12, 2008

GAHDAMN

ultramiraculous posted:



Is this an actual thing or just some sort of homophobic remark?

Is there some kind of history with gay people and meth?

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




Chris James 2 posted:

Yep.

In contrast, Lily Rabe is playing actual Aileen Wuornos in the Halloween special.

Goddamnit, she's only doing a quick role again this year?

Tbh the lack of Lily Rabe took me out of Freak Show more than anything.

e: gently caress yes shelly johnson tho

ultramiraculous
Nov 12, 2003

"No..."
Grimey Drawer

Highly Unnecessary posted:

I'm very excited to see this working elevator

Odds of it being massively-overused somehow due to it probably not being cheap?

the_american_dream posted:

Is there some kind of history with gay people and meth?

Unfortunately...Party and Play is a thing and some homophobes are aware of it.

Trash Trick
Apr 17, 2014

Elevator will be cool if they somehow do one long tracking shot of a character going between multiple levels with hosed up poo poo happening.

a new study bible!
Feb 2, 2009



BIG DICK NICK
A Philadelphia Legend
Fly Eagles Fly


Coven was way better than Freakshow. Coven was, at least, entertaining, which is the ultimate goal of any TV show. Sure it was scatterbrained and dumb, but it was entertaining throughout. Freakshow was the most boring thing I tried to watch last year. Turns out that killing off almost every interesting character early in the season is a bad idea...

RIP Patti LaBelle

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal

Ryan Murphy's Twitter posted:

Last night I had a dream that the HOTEL cast went to Gaga's house and at midnight swam in her pool that she dyed blood red just for us.

Wait a minute, that was no dream...THAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED

Doltos
Dec 28, 2005

🤌🤌🤌

WeLandedOnTheMoon! posted:

Coven was way better than Freakshow. Coven was, at least, entertaining, which is the ultimate goal of any TV show. Sure it was scatterbrained and dumb, but it was entertaining throughout. Freakshow was the most boring thing I tried to watch last year. Turns out that killing off almost every interesting character early in the season is a bad idea...

RIP Patti LaBelle

It's sad that this might be true. Coven was so bad that it at least had a trainwreck entertainment factor. Freakshow was just... bad. Like not even ironically bad.

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




Doltos posted:

It's sad that this might be true. Coven was so bad that it at least had a trainwreck entertainment factor. Freakshow was just... bad. Like not even ironically bad.

I have more fun watching Coven for sure, like Freak Show started out with potential to be a little more like Asylum before ultimately proving so boring I didn't finish it til a couple weeks ago.

Coven is awful but makes me laugh my rear end off and is full of glorious scenery chewing.

Chex Warrior
Oct 26, 2007

ultramiraculous posted:

Unfortunately...Party and Play is a thing and some homophobes are aware of it.

Jesus, let me reiterate that I am gay, I live in Texas and when I jokingly blamed Murphy's failings on meth, I was thinking about an actual tweaker I know who is a fat old lady who loves the poo poo out of AHS.

The Fuzzy Hulk
Nov 22, 2007

ASK ME ABOUT CROSSING THE STREAMS


I can't wait for the first few episodes of next season, before it starts getting terrible and stops making sense.

Tired Moritz
Mar 25, 2012

wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

(n o i c e)
I don't see how we were supposed to sympathized with the freaks considering they drugged and rape someone in the first episode.

Spiky Ooze
Oct 27, 2005

Bernie Sanders is a friend to my planet (pictured)


click the shit outta^

Tired Moritz posted:

I don't see how we were supposed to sympathized with the freaks

You're not really. That's what gets boring about this show most seasons is there's just the parade of jerks, and they're not Breaking Bad style "reasons" jerks... but caricatures.

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


Mare Winningham is returning as the laundress who works with Evan Peters

She previously played Pepper's sis on Freak Show and Evan's abusive mom on Coven

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal
A bunch of set photos (and video) of Lady Gaga in costume.

Zeroville
Aug 21, 2015

by Ralp
Maybe it's an age thing, but I loved Coven. It reminded me of growing up watching Buffy and Kevin Williamson movies. I hated freak show and never finished it. Also someone on Reddit claimed that Taissa and Ryan Murphy had a falling out. Has anyone heard anything about that? And is AHS Hotel set in modern times or is it a period piece because some of the story points don't really make sense in modern times.

QuickbreathFinisher
Sep 28, 2008

by reading this post you have agreed to form a gay socialist micronation.
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Zeroville posted:

Maybe it's an age thing, but I loved Coven. It reminded me of growing up watching Buffy and Kevin Williamson movies. I hated freak show and never finished it. Also someone on Reddit claimed that Taissa and Ryan Murphy had a falling out. Has anyone heard anything about that? And is AHS Hotel set in modern times or is it a period piece because some of the story points don't really make sense in modern times.

This is exactly why I loved Coven. It has that great 90s feel to it for some reason. It's basically a long The Craft fever dream.

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




QuickbreathFinisher posted:

It's basically a long The Craft fever dream.

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal
It's basically room service delivered by a deranged mutant

Sometimes it's getting sexily choked by Lady Gaga

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!

At least the teasers are okay.

Freak Show had good teasers too.

Why am I still going to watch this drat show?

Rageaholic
May 31, 2005

Old Town Road to EGOT

Waffleman_ posted:

At least the teasers are okay.

Freak Show had good teasers too.

Why am I still going to watch this drat show?
Because it could potentially be as good as it used t--no it won't who am I kidding

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!

I'm thinking best-case scenario, it's good til the Halloween episodes.

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Parasol Prophet
Aug 31, 2012

We Are Best Friends Now.
I don't know why I'm even watching this again

*Peruses casting news*

Why do I even still like this show

*Looks up teasers*

Maybe I don't

*Takes note of premiere date*

Maybe I should stop

*Posts in TVIV thread*

What am I doing to myself

*Buys snacks for premiere night*

I'll give it three episodes.




*Watches all the episodes, complains every week*

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