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Juanito
Jan 20, 2004

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CapitalistPig posted:

Because you were right, it was the alignment thing.

The alignment flavor names aren't in the op and it isn't necessarily a given that scum will get town flavor name it's happened before and it will again.

So yeah you and Juanito not noticing the world aligned was a giveaway to me. I felt like it should have been obvious.
hardly. You should have asked as a direct question instead of lightly hinting at it and acting like trap sprung.

This is dumb though so I'm thinking cpig might be town now.

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Are you always this bad, Cpig? Yes. I can't decide if you're worth unvoting.

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CapitalistPig posted:

Pretty much any game I actually try to play in is like this. Why do you think I started shitposting and calling people idiots?

I get less heat doing that then actually trying as town and being bad at it.
Zzz you always get heat because you always shitpost. Everybody is town and bad at it at first (or always).

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MildManeredManikin posted:

I think we can do a little better than executing a dude we think is town.
I agree. :cool:

##unvote

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CapitalistPig posted:

Oh whatever Mr high and mighty mafia man.

I play how I like to play, gently caress anyone who doesn't like it.

Literally everybody doesn't like it. They like you, and I like you, but you usually don't come through for town.

I can't complain too much since the strategy is pretty similar to mine. :)

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Oh Cpig. :allears:

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Somberbrero posted:

Yeah I'm leaving my vote on Pig.
Leaving it on him, why? Do you think he's scum or unhelpful town?

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Somberbrero posted:

Isn't it though?

I should confess that I have a restriction that prohibits me from voting several players from day to day. None of them are really on my scum list but that narrows the field considerably. I can talk about this more but I don't think it'll be hugely productive, especially with deadline coming up.

You and Juanito have been active and if either of you are town we'll be shooting ourselves in the foot.

Jedit doesn't play often/is new, right? I don't want to kill him day one.

Juanito says not to vote Hal.

I really don't know where to go from here.
Jedit doesn't get a noob pass :colbert: he's been around awhile.

I don't really think he's a good choice though.

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Somberbrero posted:

That's not wrong. I'd prefer to talk less about who I can't vote and more about who I should vote if that's possible though.
Unless you can't.. why wouldn't you share details at this point? We don't have to discuss it. But you've hinted enough at your role that you should tell us why you can't vote certain people. That is odd, and an enormous handicap for a town player.

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Somberbrero posted:

Sure, why not. It's not like anything else is happening. I'm in an unconfirmed mason group with Winson, Grandi, Meinberg, and Maltose. I can't vote any of them today. It should be temporary and it's related to other stuff. I have had pretty good interactions with Meinberg and Grandi and I feel fairly confident they're town. If I had to guess that one player in my group it'd be Winson, based on something he said about how he was planning on exercising as much caution as possible which struck me as odd. Could easily be Maltose though, dude has hardly been around.
Scum must be in that masonry group, because I can't imagine them putting 5 town together. That's a huge masonry for an 11 person game. It's really not worth worrying about though. I'm guessing they can't vote each other.. so I think that makes it unlikely that any of them could get lunched today.

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Somberbrero posted:

No, I'm pretty sure that's just on me.
Then nevermind :downs:

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fiery_valkyrie posted:

There is nothing to go on, but I don't get a scum vibe off CPig or MMM and I don't really want to lynch an active player in a low volume game.
Do ya want to no lynch or wat



So Grandi is participating in the doc, and yet he hasn't posted in the thread in 2 days...

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Somberbrero posted:

Juanito I sort of want to vote Hal though.
O rly.

He's not a good target. He isn't posting enough here, like some other players, but you should look elsewhere.

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Jan 20, 2004

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I like speculation, but us being scum together would be really dumb.

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fiery_valkyrie posted:

No, I don't want to no lynch but I also don't want to make half the game off limits because one person has a vote restriction.
True, I was mostly wondering if you had any specific scummy targets.

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Winson_Paine posted:


I thought defending yourself was scummy? I remember that being the case.
Not really, although it does depend on how much you flail.

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fiery_valkyrie posted:

I made a case and have a vote down.

Who are your scummy targets?
I guess I'd seen it and forgotten.

This is Maltose's third game. But I seriously don't have any good targets.

I'd thought Cpig, but his alignment trap sprung gambit was too ridiculous to be scum, I think.


I actually am not all that crazy about MMM. I'd probably be okay voting him. I don't like the "I can't care or get into this game" in a game that had just started and everybody had a role.

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MildManeredManikin posted:

I guess I could see grandi or Juanito?
Knowing Grandi, he does get lurky at times, but it is annoying that he's been participating in a doc, and not posting here. People in the doc seem to get a town vibe from him though.

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Jan 20, 2004

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Everybody freak out.

Just kidding, it's Friday afternoon, I almost doubt we can lunch anybody.

I think I'd go for Jedit.

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What does the masonry think about Somber? Is he legit?

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Hey guys, had been away last few days but back to my computer and sweet, sweet internet.

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Jan 20, 2004

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maybe fiery can tell us why it failed.

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Winson is town, I agree.

Why are Meinberg and Jedit town? Just curious.

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Since my poo poo got blown up, I might as well claim.

I can investigate or send a message to someone every night.

Night 0, I investigated Hal, and by coincidence he recruited me to his gang. He is world aligned.

Night 1, he recruit Somber, and I investigated Somber, but my investigation failed, although he got recruited successfully. The fact that Hal's action succeeded and mine failed made us a little uneasy about Somber.

Night 2, I don't know who Hal recruited because nobody was posting in the mason doc since I was traveling, and Hal hadn't been around much. I investigated Winson and he's world aligned. Hal hasn't said who he recruited yet.

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Also check the first letter of every post I made during day 1 to see my ~breadcrumb~

starts at
http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3662053&userid=47848#post434383137

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yeah.. I'm sharing all my results, and our thought process, that's all.

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Jedit posted:

I'd love to know how you managed to get one night action to fail on Somber but not another. On me, no problem, but Somber didn't have my immunity.

Grandi, your process of elimination revolves around Juanito claiming two Town investigations but no scum - something scum can do quite easily as they know who the not-scum are - and Winson telling the truth about who he drove on Night 1. It doesn't work and I won't vote Valkyrie because of it.
We'd love to know as well. I'm guessing that I was blocked, or something.

Also if I were scum and this were my crazy plan, why wouldn't I just say that I investigated Somber as town, instead of saying it failed?

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I don't think all of the recruiters can be town, so I think Jedit is most likely to be scum.

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Somber said he'd confirmed someone as town, but didn't tell us who. Did he tell you guys? (maybe you've already said, and I missed it).

He mostly wanted to go for MMM, and Cpig, but also would have voted FV.

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Cool.

Winson is world aligned. I investigated him.

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fiery does seem like the best option.

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I'm a brainer and I ##scan people, so maybe I don't travel to the person.

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Anybody else going to claim brainer? Nope, I'm the one guy with psychic powers.

I'm hardly a town MVP in this game though so if I die, it'll just confirm two other people.

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heh, oops. well if it's a result or two that you have to correct, just send a correction PM to that person..

and then deal with the people who threaten to quit ;)

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I could go for Jedit or fiery, but I think I prefer fiery today..

##vote fiery

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I investigated Meinberg last night and he's world aligned.

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Hal and Meinberg are confirmed town to me.

It's possible there is a godfather, but I'm not real convinced. I think it's more likely that an action would just fail.

I think Cpig is town.

So it really comes down to Jedit and Grandicap for me.

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So there is probably a godfather? Also with 6 alive, is this LYLO?

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I got recruited by Jedit last night, but I dont' think he uses the doc at all now.

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If we're going to assume there is a godfather.. I don't think Hal is it.

I mean, he even missed when Somber had claimed his masonry.

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