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Flameingblack posted:CLG, please snipe Kerp and Kev1n from Millenium so I don't have to watch EU LCS Despite the fact I just defended Dexter, if CLG poached Kerp/Kev1n/KottenX they'd probably be in much better shape. Actually, gently caress it, bring Creaton too.
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I don't think KottenX is better than Dexter, but I think all of the rest of Millenium's players are probably better than their CLG counterparts. I think Jree in particular is slept on. He has a lot of really great games. I think I might be the only person who likes watching Millenium in the thread though.
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Sep 4, 2014 17:44
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Libertine posted:
Nope, I enjoyed them this split as well. I think pick comps are fun to watch, and that's really all they could play
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Killed By Death posted:Despite the fact I just defended Dexter, if CLG poached Kerp/Kev1n/KottenX they'd probably be in much better shape.
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Sep 4, 2014 17:48
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I just can't stand watching the EU LCS unless it's changed dramatically in the past split. The style of play that I watched was always this agonizingly slow fight-avoiding model.
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Sep 4, 2014 17:50
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Libertine posted:I don't think KottenX is better than Dexter, but I think all of the rest of Millenium's players are probably better than their CLG counterparts. I think Jree in particular is slept on. He has a lot of really great games. I like Millenium  I'd like them more if they would stop breaking my heart  And I agree on Jree, but I felt like I had to leave one person from the current CLG, and I like Aphro the most, so... Flameingblack posted:Millenium's members were for the most, top 5 in every position in their fantasy points. Creaton and Kerp made top 5 overall.
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Sep 4, 2014 17:57
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Vermain posted:I just can't stand watching the EU LCS unless it's changed dramatically in the past split. The style of play that I watched was always this agonizingly slow fight-avoiding model. EU LCS generated more Fantasy LCS points than their NA counterparts, so yeah it had more happening than NA
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Sep 4, 2014 17:58
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Flameingblack posted:CLG, please snipe Kerp and Kev1n from Millenium so I don't have to watch EU LCS this would own massively and I'd be #1 CLG fan if this happened
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Sep 4, 2014 18:02
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Libertine posted:I don't think KottenX is better than Dexter, but I think all of the rest of Millenium's players are probably better than their CLG counterparts. I think Jree in particular is slept on. He has a lot of really great games. I liked watching Millenium but I knew their season would end in sadness. Picking up Kev1n would be pretty massive for CLG though.
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Sep 4, 2014 18:06
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Killed By Death posted:Dexter got to Worlds on a team that didn't even have a team house, what has Link ever done? Furthermore, the reason that Dexter and Link don't get along is that Link doesn't take practice seriously. That's a huge red flag imo. Is it that he doesn't take practice seriously or is it that he's put off by how hard Dexter tries and hounds on teammates to try? You can't just say "he doesn't take practice seriously" without there being an underlying reason, and I wouldn't be surprised if Dexter was tryharding to the point where Link hates practice because of it. It's great that Dexter wants to improve but I think if it's at the cost of team morale and attitude that needs to be looked at.
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Sep 4, 2014 18:07
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Hypocrisy posted:I liked watching Millenium but I knew their season would end in sadness.
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Sep 4, 2014 18:08
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Flameingblack posted:Millenium are the Dignitas of Europe. Very solid players who seem just kind of aloof all the time Flameingblack posted:Dignitas Flameingblack posted:aloof 
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Sep 4, 2014 18:13
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I hope someone brings out Gnar and just destroys everyone into permaban status.
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Invalid Validation posted:I hope someone brings out Gnar and just destroys everyone into permaban status. Cabochard played him for NiP the other day in one of the earlier rounds of the Black Monster Cup. It was pretty bad though. Didn't end up working out for him. I still think he's undertuned but if they were to buff him too considerably he would just end up being a ridiculous overbearing monster (which I guess is thematic?)
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He's probably just a little too squishy out of rage form. Oh hey, its whats his face that used to cast with Joe, I didn't even know they still did anything.
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Sep 4, 2014 18:28
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Libertine posted:Cabochard played him for NiP the other day in one of the earlier rounds of the Black Monster Cup. It was pretty bad though. Didn't end up working out for him. Cabochard is bad though, so we can still hold out hope on the Gnar front for now
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Sep 4, 2014 18:36
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Sep 4, 2014 18:57
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The M5 neverending team fight is the single best LOL competitive clip of all time so I'm glad Kaplan put it up on stream to fill time. Here it is for anyone who hasn't seen it before: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVE5sQssZi4
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Sep 4, 2014 19:10
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I'd happily forgotten the times where Olaf was king poo poo of toplane/jungle. Oh hey I'm gonna stack a ton of defensive items and then I'll run you down with my CC immunity and neverending slows and murder you with true dmg and free armor pen.
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Libertine posted:The M5 neverending team fight is the single best LOL competitive clip of all time so I'm glad Kaplan put it up on stream to fill time. They didn't even swing by dragon to say hi. 0/10
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Sep 4, 2014 19:22
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Poor Kaplan just sitting in a basement casting by himself while his buddy Joe went onto the big leagues.
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Sep 4, 2014 19:24
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I really want the fart clip.
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Sep 4, 2014 19:36
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Doesn't CLG have to keep 3 of their current players for next split by the rule Riot made when NIP was trying to buy Lemondogs' LCS spot?
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Invalid Validation posted:Poor Kaplan just sitting in a basement casting by himself while his buddy Joe went onto the big leagues. Dare I say it, he's really, really improved. I couldn't stand him last season but I think he's gotten a lot better.
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SKP is still a really strong looking challenger team. I would be pretty shocked if they're not in the LCS next season.
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Hypocrisy posted:SKP is still a really strong looking challenger team. Yeah, they are just making GBS threads on UOL at this point.
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Sep 4, 2014 20:51
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Hypocrisy posted:SKP is still a really strong looking challenger team. I posted this the other day too, but I'm legit worried for Gambit. SK Prime looks like the best of all the EU Challengers.
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Sep 4, 2014 20:53
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Libertine posted:I posted this the other day too, but I'm legit worried for Gambit. SK Prime looks like the best of all the EU Challengers. Gambit ended up last place? Yeah, this is a really scary promotion tournament for them. Though, they'll have a second chance for next split and who knows if a challenger team will choke or not?
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Hypocrisy posted:Gambit ended up last place? Yeah, this is a really scary promotion tournament for them. Though, they'll have a second chance for next split and who knows if a challenger team will choke or not? I think they were seventh, but they chose SKP over H2K.
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"ARE YOU DUMB????"
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I agree with you about a lot of things Libertine but KottenX single-handedly saved Millenium from the bottom of the bargain bin and had top jungler fantasy points in the LCS for pretty much the entire season. I'm not saying he carried the team the way Bjergson did for TSM, but he synergized perfectly with them when Aranea abandoned ship and suddenly they were winning games and you could tell the other EU teams didn't see it coming at all. Dexter's basically the exact opposite of that.
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Sexpansion posted:I think they were seventh, but they chose SKP over H2K. Huh. Maybe they saw SKP play like this as opposed to game 1.
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Libertine posted:The M5 neverending team fight is the single best LOL competitive clip of all time so I'm glad Kaplan put it up on stream to fill time. Best team of all time
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Liquid did an AMA & interview with Travis and in the interview he states that he would be looking for a minimum of $75k if he has to sell CRS Academy should they qualify for LCS. Interesting to think about the valuation and pricing of an esports team. I'd love FORBES to do valuations like they do with every other sport. Is TSM the scenes first million dollar franchise?
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Jerkface posted:Liquid did an AMA & interview with Travis and in the interview he states that he would be looking for a minimum of $75k if he has to sell CRS Academy should they qualify for LCS. Interesting to think about the valuation and pricing of an esports team. I'd love FORBES to do valuations like they do with every other sport. Is TSM the scenes first million dollar franchise? CoL sold their Call of Duty team (the best in the world) to EG for 80k iirc.
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Worth noting how most eSports organizations aren't even close to being self-sustainable, I'd be surprised if coL's CoD team booked a profit. League might have the most exceptions to that - I think Riot gives each LCS team roughly 85k$ per split. For a low tier/new LCS team, that goes a long way in paying player salaries before everything else, and it certainly means even the worst LCS team is probably worth a decent lump of money.
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Jerkface posted:Liquid did an AMA & interview with Travis and in the interview he states that he would be looking for a minimum of $75k if he has to sell CRS Academy should they qualify for LCS. Interesting to think about the valuation and pricing of an esports team. I'd love FORBES to do valuations like they do with every other sport. Is TSM the scenes first million dollar franchise? MVP reportedly sold to Samsung for ~1 million right before Season 3 worlds, but there's no way to confirm that as far as I know. Probably bigger deals in the BW days also. Flash was making hundreds of thousands/year as far as I know back in the day also.
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Ihki posted:Worth noting how most eSports organizations aren't even close to being self-sustainable, I'd be surprised if coL's CoD team booked a profit. League might have the most exceptions to that - I think Riot gives each LCS team roughly 85k$ per split. For a low tier/new LCS team, that goes a long way in paying player salaries before everything else, and it certainly means even the worst LCS team is probably worth a decent lump of money. The curse owner (Liquid112) estimated approximately 50k in seed money if you 'want to do it right.' Trigger warning - reddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/2faoml/ama_steve_liquid112_arhancet_owner_and_gm_for/ck7j12i Given that level of investment you'd have to figure that a successful club would be worth substantially more.
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