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Astoundingly Ugly Baby
Mar 22, 2006

"...crying bitch cave bitch boy."
- Anonymous Facebook user

I upgraded to a 12 mini a few days ago and I pretty much have no cellular service indoors now. My X had 3 or 4 bars consistently, but I'm lucky to get even 1 with the 12. So it's wifi in the house or nothing at all.

What's the deal? Bad sim or something? I'm on Verizon.

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Laserface
Dec 24, 2004

THERE IS NO PLANET B


Bizarro Kanyon posted:

If that is true, then drat, they are being serious. That is definitely something to watch in the future to see how well it is implemented when major apps like Facebook try to find ways around it.

remember how facebook used a loop hole to have the microphone all the time because it was a 'voice recording' app?

~Coxy
Dec 9, 2003

R.I.P. Inter-OS Sass - b.2000AD d.2003AD

Messenger also used to gate their version of "find my friends" behind grating location permission to "always", (for all I know they still do.)

FCKGW
May 21, 2006



Laserface posted:

remember how facebook used a loop hole to have the microphone all the time because it was a 'voice recording' app?

no?

Despite popular myths, Facebook is not recording your conversations

district of thizz
May 9, 2006

How do, jerry bus.






I vaguely recalled something about the iOS Facebook app having some weird behavior with playing silent audio instead of running the microphone and found the following to refresh my memory: https://techcrunch.com/2015/10/22/facebook-says-it-fixed-a-bug-that-caused-silent-audio-to-vampire-your-iphone-battery/

The most favorable read of that is the app had a bug which unintentionally kept it running in the background despite any user configuration. Based on the companyís history, I would suspect the ďbugĒ was intentional.

Laserface
Dec 24, 2004

THERE IS NO PLANET B


FCKGW posted:

no?

Despite popular myths, Facebook is not recording your conversations

I was thinking of the District of Thizz's link.

japtor
Oct 28, 2005
WELL ARNT I JUST MR. LA DE FUCKEN DA. oh yea and i suck cocks too


Laserface posted:

I was thinking of the District of Thizz's link.
Or maybe this one about the camera:
https://9to5mac.com/2019/11/12/facebook-app-secretly-using-camera/

Bizarro Kanyon
Jan 3, 2007

Something Awful, so easy even a spaceman can do it!




Astoundingly Ugly Baby posted:

I upgraded to a 12 mini a few days ago and I pretty much have no cellular service indoors now. My X had 3 or 4 bars consistently, but I'm lucky to get even 1 with the 12. So it's wifi in the house or nothing at all.

What's the deal? Bad sim or something? I'm on Verizon.

I think it is Verizon. I have had issues for the last year or so where my X shows 3 bars of LTE but if the wifi is out, then I cannot do anything besides making a phone call. It even combat send text messages half of the time if they include a picture.

Duckman2008
Jan 6, 2010

TFW you see Flyers goaltending.

Grimey Drawer

FCKGW posted:

no?

Despite popular myths, Facebook is not recording your conversations

Maybe not, but I decided long ago the Facebook app was not worth having on my phone so I deleted it and just use the web browser. Highly recommend, although I currently still have Facebook messenger as an app, so it probably still didnít solve the issue.

phosdex
Dec 16, 2005




Have to work from the office today and we wear masks at our desks. Unlock from watch is so nice!

OldSenileGuy
Mar 13, 2001


phosdex posted:

Have to work from the office today and we wear masks at our desks. Unlock from watch is so nice!

It's really a gamechanger, even though I've found it only works correctly like 80% of the time.

There are numerous times when it won't recognize my masked face and I still have to enter the code. And, confusingly, there are other times when I'm holding my phone in my hand not using it, and suddenly I'll get a notification on my watch "iPhone was unlocked by Apple Watch". Weird

Henrik Zetterberg
Dec 7, 2007




FCKGW posted:

no?

Despite popular myths, Facebook is not recording your conversations

Yes, the app registered itself to iOS as an audio app, so it would stay active in memory when you went to another app. It was back on like iOS 3 or something like that before app-switching was a real thing.

namlosh
Feb 11, 2014

I blew up


Imagine giving Facebook any credit in 2021Ö

Just to chime in, my wife has an eSim in the US and loves itÖ but she just started and so has a pretty clear delineation of work and personal.
We thought it was pretty well done, actually. She can just pick which number she wants to use when starting a new message if she wants to override the default for the contact. But Iím sure there are edge cases and Iím not sure how iMessage works with it.

fourwood
Sep 9, 2001

Damn I'll bring them to their knees.

OldSenileGuy posted:

It's really a gamechanger, even though I've found it only works correctly like 80% of the time.

There are numerous times when it won't recognize my masked face and I still have to enter the code. And, confusingly, there are other times when I'm holding my phone in my hand not using it, and suddenly I'll get a notification on my watch "iPhone was unlocked by Apple Watch". Weird
I feel like I actually get more false positives and almost no false negatives. Itís been very reliable for me unlocking the phone throughout the beta period even. But yeah, every now and then Iíll get a watch notification that my phone unlocked when I donít even have a mask on and was not trying to unlock my phone.

nwin
Feb 25, 2002

make's u think


Fallen Rib

14.5 is out

OldSenileGuy
Mar 13, 2001


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nwin
Feb 25, 2002

make's u think


Fallen Rib


HahHa I havenít seen that in forever-whoops.

MrBond
Feb 19, 2004

FYI, Cheese NIPS are not the same as Cheez ITS

Henrik Zetterberg posted:

Yes, the app registered itself to iOS as an audio app, so it would stay active in memory when you went to another app. It was back on like iOS 3 or something like that before app-switching was a real thing.

Facebook also registered itself as a VOIP app so it could wake up and run in the background a lot
https://www.engadget.com/2019-08-06-ios-13-facebook-messenger-whatsapp-voip-changes.html

GATOS Y VATOS
Aug 22, 2002




holy poo poo

Laserface
Dec 24, 2004

THERE IS NO PLANET B


but yeah, facebook isnt listening to your conversations. take their word for it!

Astoundingly Ugly Baby
Mar 22, 2006

"...crying bitch cave bitch boy."
- Anonymous Facebook user

Bizarro Kanyon posted:

I think it is Verizon. I have had issues for the last year or so where my X shows 3 bars of LTE but if the wifi is out, then I cannot do anything besides making a phone call. It even combat send text messages half of the time if they include a picture.

I kind of figured it was a Verizon issue. The 12 won't drop down to 3G or even 1x when I'm out of range of LTE or wifi, so I assume it just straight up loses service in that case.

sleepwalkers
Dec 7, 2008




yeah, facebook absolutely does not need to listen to you to get the same info in a way that raises far fewer red flags to the end user.

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007




Grimey Drawer

Astoundingly Ugly Baby posted:

I kind of figured it was a Verizon issue. The 12 won't drop down to 3G or even 1x when I'm out of range of LTE or wifi, so I assume it just straight up loses service in that case.

My dad has the same issue with Verizon. Itís sucks because he doesnít even know when itís happened.

cage-free egghead
Mar 8, 2004

Ready to eat me, sir!


sleepwalkers posted:

yeah, facebook absolutely does not need to listen to you to get the same info in a way that raises far fewer red flags to the end user.

Theyíve been caught before so whoís to say itís still not happening?

Either way, they ask for every device permission under the sun so that should tell you all you need to know.

Just another friendly reminder that most social media is horse poo poo and should be avoided.

Rinkles
Oct 24, 2010

What I'm getting at is...
Do you feel the same way?


Iím guessing itís standard procedure to get a refurb as a replacement for a faulty phone (I donít mean the loaner)?

Jose Oquendo
Jun 20, 2004

At the end of 2018, a study was published by London Metropolitan University showing that certain bacteria, normally present only in intestinal tracts or feces, were found on McDonald's self-service screens.




Rinkles posted:

Iím guessing itís standard procedure to get a refurb as a replacement for a faulty phone (I donít mean the loaner)?

Yes. Thankfully Apple refurbs are virtually identical to brand new units.


edit: Any trick to forcing AirPods to update? I can't get my Pros to grab the new firmware from yesterday.

Jose Oquendo fucked around with this message at 14:50 on Apr 29, 2021

FCKGW
May 21, 2006



Laserface posted:

but yeah, facebook isnt listening to your conversations. take their word for it!

No one said to take Facebooks word for it.

This stuff has been studied by many security researchers and it would be fairly trivial to detect due to the amount of network traffic required to achieve it, not to mention potentially running afoul of wiretapping laws. It just isnít happening.

The scary part is that Facebook can get that type of hyper relevant ad tech without needing to tap your phone.

FCKGW
May 21, 2006



Didnít expect the McDonalds app to get hit with the 14.5 tracking limitations

Sri.Theo
Apr 16, 2008


If I use outlook.com/the outlook app for my calendar and want to share it with someone that uses gMail/the built in calendar is there a way to do that?

When I use the share options from Outlook.com it always wants them to log into Outlook.com

Clark Nova
Jul 17, 2004



"Please give us permission to share your data to show you relevant ads about theMcDonalds's food you love" may be the most dystopian sentence it is possible to construct in the english language

Weedle
May 31, 2006





Clark Nova posted:

"Please give us permission to share your data to show you relevant ads about theMcDonalds's food you love" may be the most dystopian sentence it is possible to construct in the english language

Data sharing has been automatically enabled to show you relevant ads about the McDonalds's food you love.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009



Does this mcdonalds app only show ads for mcdonalds products? Or do they run ads for anyone that gives them money? Their menu is like 10 items, how much personalization could they really be doing?

Basically that screenshot has me asking a lot of questions.

Protocol7
Jul 26, 2012

Cyber Hellcat is not amused


xzzy posted:

Does this mcdonalds app only show ads for mcdonalds products? Or do they run ads for anyone that gives them money? Their menu is like 10 items, how much personalization could they really be doing?

Basically that screenshot has me asking a lot of questions.

All of them can probably be answered by saying someone probably gives McDonalds tons of money for the data they can collect just by being McDonalds and now that someone upset.

cage-free egghead
Mar 8, 2004

Ready to eat me, sir!


Protocol7 posted:

All of them can probably be answered by saying someone probably gives McDonalds tons of money for the data they can collect just by being McDonalds and now that someone upset.

Bingo. Not to mention the data regarding device location including BLE beacons inside the actual restaurant. The app page states that your name, email and device ID probably get shared with advertisers so thereís likely a huge network of companies bidding or getting that info.

SweetMercifulCrap!
Jan 28, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

Wait... so that's why apps ask for Bluetooth permission? Huh. I never approve it.

cage-free egghead
Mar 8, 2004

Ready to eat me, sir!


SweetMercifulCrap! posted:

Wait... so that's why apps ask for Bluetooth permission? Huh. I never approve it.

From my understanding, beacons only tell a device what action to do if one gets within range. Iím not sure what actions those are though and if they even require an app to initiate.

sleepwalkers
Dec 7, 2008




smackfu
Jun 7, 2004



The watch unlock is pretty great. I went out of the house for the first time since the release and unlocked my phone in CVS and my watch buzzed for some reason and I realized it was workingÖ

Only bummer (or maybe a positive) is that it is only phone unlock by watch, it is not FaceID by watch. So financial apps wonít unlock.

jokes
Dec 20, 2012
jokes





I love this image so much. Why did he stand up? Why did he raise his arms? Why is the advertisement just a burger with absolutely nothing else on the screen?

What the gently caress lol

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FCKGW
May 21, 2006



jokes posted:

I love this image so much. Why did he stand up? Why did he raise his arms? Why is the advertisement just a burger with absolutely nothing else on the screen?

He's lovin' it!

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