Doctor Who series 8 (34): Eyebrows! Eyebrows since the dawn of Time!

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Trin Tragula: Apr 22, 2005

Right, so I PMed some mods about the issue of whether weekly threads are really necessary for us, they don't seem to care, and it is a bit of a song and dance doing a new OP every week, so. (If they do, someone can just change the thread title back and we'll carry on with weeklies, right?) Here's your thread for the rest of series 8 (34).

( Last weekly thread: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3662849 )

Here is an episode listing!

1). Deep Breath by Grand Moff Steven, directed by Ben Wheatley
2). Into the Dalek by Phil Ford & GMS, directed by Ben Wheatley
3). Robot of Sherwood by Mark Gatiss, directed by Paul Murphy
4). Listen by GMS, directed by Douglas Mackinnon
5). Time Heist by Stephen Thompson & GMS, directed by Douglas Mackinnon
6). The Caretaker by Gareth Roberts & GMS, directed by Paul Murphy
7). Kill the Moon by Peter Harness, directed by Paul Wilmshurst
8). Mummy on the Orient Express by Jamie Mathieson, directed by Paul Wilmshurst
9). Flatline by Jamie Mathieson, directed by Douglas Mackinnon
10). In the Forest of the Night by Frank Cottrell Boyce, directed by Sheree Folkson
11). Dark Water by GMS, directed by Rachel Talalay
12). Death in Heaven by GMS, directed by Rachel Talalay

On the subject of spoilers: this thread must by order of the mods be able to cater for those who somehow don't notice when every national newspaper, the Six O'Clock News, and half the internet leads with the headline "MARTHA JONES IS A RUTAN: CONFIRMED!" If you should feel the need to satisfy any weird and unnatural urges to discuss what might be about to happen next before it's been aired, there is a no-holds barred spoiler thread where you can pretend that you aren't all sad, broken people who hate fun and mystery. (Please also note that casting news is explicitly not a spoiler, especially not when the BBC devotes half an hour of primetime coverage to the announcement.)

And it seems like a quick restatement of the First Law of Doctor Who Fans is a necessary thing to have here, so. The First Law of Doctor Who fans says: "No substantive discussion group shall be entirely able to agree on the merits of any given story, not even the 'except X, that just plain sucked/rocked' corollary to this law." A great example of this is the four parts of The Trial of a Time Lord; we generally agree that one of them is a misunderstood classic, one is good harmless fun, and the other two are hideous smelly failures that we should never speak of again. What we can't agree on is the question of which story is which...

So please do bear this in mind before bemoaning THE THREAD HIVEMIND CONSENSUS, because people will make fun of you if you do that, and serve you bloody well right. (Wouldn't that make a great episode title? Or at least a great Big Bang Theory episode title?)

:siren:

RATINGS GO HERE, IF YOU DON'T CARE, SCROLL RIGHT DOWN :siren:

Full explanation of what all this means is in the Deep Breath thread. TL;DR, it's all fine, chill out, people are still watching and loving the show.

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Death in Heaven

Overnights: 5.45 million, a 23.3% share.  AI of 83.
Chart: 3rd for Saturday behind Strictly & The X Factor
Timeslot: Lost vs The X Factor (9.37 million)
Final rating: PENDING

Convictland: 620,000


Dark Water

Overnights: 5.27 million, a 22.4% share.  AI of 85.
Chart: 4rd for Saturday behind Strictly, The X Factor, and Pointless Celebrities
Timeslot: Lost vs The X Factor (7.45 million)
Final rating: 7.34 million

Convictland: 541,000


In the Forest of the Night

Overnights: 5.03 million, a 21.6% share.  AI of 83.
Chart: 3rd for Saturday behind Strictly and The X Factor
Timeslot: Lost vs The X Factor (7.34 million)
Final rating: 6.92 million, 20th for the week

Convictland: 566,000


Flatline

Overnights: 4.55 million, 19.5% share.  AI of 85
Chart: 4th for Saturday behind Strictly, The X Factor & Pointless Celebrities
Timeslot: Lost vs The X Factor (7.71 million)
Final rating: 6.71 million, 23rd for the week; pushed out by The Apprentice & Downton

Convictland: 971,000


Mummy on the Orient Express

Overnights: 5.08 million, 22.1% share.  AI of 85.
Chart: 3rd for Saturday behind Strictly and The X Factor
Timeslot: Lost vs The X Factor (7.7 million)
Final rating: 7.11 million, 14th for the week, beat an EastEnders episode

Convictland: 526,000


Kill the Moon

Overnights: 4.82 million, a 21.5% share.  AI of 82.
Chart: 3rd for Saturday, behind Strictly and The X Factor
Timeslot: Lost vs The X Factor (7.18 million)
Final rating: 6.91 million, 20th for the week

Convictland: 447,000 (against the NRL Grand Final)



The Caretaker

Overnights: 4.89 million, 21.8% share, AI of 83
Chart: 3rd for Saturday behind Strictly and The X Factor
Timeslot: Lost vs The X Factor (7.7 million)
Final rating: 6.81 million, 20th for the week

Convictland: 882,000



Time Heist

Overnights: 4.93 million, 23.8% share, AI of 84
Chart: 2nd for Saturday behind The X Factor (8.4 million)
Timeslot: Won vs The Chase (4.2 million)
Final rating: 6.99 million, 14th for the week

Convictland: 977,000


Listen

Overnights: 4.8 million, 23.5% share.  AI of 82.
Chart: 2nd for Saturday behind The X Factor (8.5 million)
Timeslot: Won vs The Chase (4.1 million)
Final rating: 7.01 million, 7th for the week

Convictland: 661,000


Robot of Sherwood

Overnights: 5.2 million, a 25.4% share.  AI of 82.
Chart: 2nd for Saturday behind The X Factor (8.7 million)
Timeslot: Won vs The Chase
Final rating: 7.28 million, 10th for the week

Convictland: 1.085 million


Into the Dalek

Overnights: 5.2 million, a 25.7% share.  AI of 84.  
Chart: 2nd for Saturday behind The X Factor (9.3 million)
Timeslot: Won vs The Chase (4.2 million) then maintaned audience vs The X Factor
Final rating: 7.25 million, a 30.4% share.  9th for the week.

Convictland: 1.1 million


Deep Breath

Overnights: 6.8 million, a 32.5% share.  AI of 82.  1st for Saturday.
Timeslot: Won, vs some awful poo poo on ITV that nobody watched
Final rating: 9.17 million (!!!), 2nd for the week (behind The Great British Bake-Off (!!! ))

USA! USA! USA!: 2.6 million, the highest rating ever for a premiere on BBC America, 
the most-watched cable show of its timeslot
Canuckistan: 1.4 million on Space, the highest-rated show on the channel so far this year
Convictland: 1.187 million on the ABC, the highest-rated drama of the day.

Now, if only there was some cromulent Patrick Troughton quote that might be used to express an opinion on this alteration of circumstances...

Trin Tragula fucked around with this message at 14:25 on Nov 12, 2014

# ? Sep 13, 2014 12:22

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# ? Apr 20, 2024 03:46

Jerusalem: May 20, 2004; Would you be my new best friends?

Trin Tragula posted:

Now, if only there was some cromulent Patrick Troughton quote that might be used to express an opinion on this alteration of circumstances...

Oh my giddy Aunt, a season thread!

I've only seen the preview at the end of the episode last week, but this looks like it is the annual appease the mighty spirit of Robert Holmes/terrify every child in Britain episode, and I appreciate that.

# ? Sep 13, 2014 12:25

Barry Foster: Dec 24, 2007; What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

New thread, don't like it, boom!

# ? Sep 13, 2014 12:35

KOGAHAZAN!!: Apr 29, 2013; a miserable failure as a person

an incredible success as a magical murder spider

We're going to stop making new threads!

To commemorate this, a new thread!

(Sorry Trin, it made me laugh.)

# ? Sep 13, 2014 12:38

Wheat Loaf: Feb 13, 2012; by FactsAreUseless

I don't know if I'm entirely optimistic about this evening's episode, but we'll see.

# ? Sep 13, 2014 12:48

Plavski: Feb 1, 2006; I could be a revolutionary

It's a Moffat episode, so I'm wary. But this looks like it could scare the poo poo out of some kids, so yay!

# ? Sep 13, 2014 13:22

Irish Joe: Jul 23, 2007; by Lowtax

Metal Loaf posted:

I don't know if I'm entirely optimistic about this evening's episode, but we'll see.

I've hated this episode since before it was written.

What do I win?

# ? Sep 13, 2014 13:34

PriorMarcus: Oct 17, 2008; ASK ME ABOUT BEING ALLERGIC TO POSITIVITY

I'm interested to see all of your reactions to one aspect of this episode in particular.

# ? Sep 13, 2014 13:37

SwimmingSpider: Jan 3, 2008; Jön, jön, jön a vizipók.
Várják már a tólakók.
Ez a kis pók ügyes búvár.
Sok új kaland is még rá vár.

I really like how 12 is shaping up so far. He comes off as a such a killjoy rear end in a top hat and it's just so endearing.

# ? Sep 13, 2014 13:39

CobiWann: Oct 21, 2009; Have fun!

Irish Joe posted:

I've hated this episode since before it was written.

What do I win?

The opportunity to be a sound tech on a Bonnie Langford serial.

# ? Sep 13, 2014 14:08

DoctorWhat: Nov 18, 2011; A little privacy, please?

Tim Burns Effect posted:

A little ways into the "Philip Hinchcliffe Presents" box set and apparently Big Finish's throwback to the Hinchcliffe era includes the casual racism

Oh dear, that's unfortunate. Care to elaborate?

# ? Sep 13, 2014 15:07

Throb Robinson: Feb 8, 2010; He would enjoy administering the single antidote to Leia. He would enjoy it very much indeed..

As for the DW ratings what does Convict land mean?

# ? Sep 13, 2014 15:33

DoctorWhat: Nov 18, 2011; A little privacy, please?

Throb Robinson posted:

As for the DW ratings what does Convict land mean?

Australia

# ? Sep 13, 2014 15:36

Wheat Loaf: Feb 13, 2012; by FactsAreUseless

Irish Joe posted:

I've hated this episode since before it was written.

What do I win?

I can't stand all the relentless negativity in this thread, :qq:

Trin Tragula posted:

Full explanation of what all this means is in the Deep Breath thread. TL;DR, it's all fine, chill out, people are still watching and loving the show.

May I ask, if anyone knows, why iPlayer is excluded from the ratings calculations?

Wheat Loaf fucked around with this message at 15:46 on Sep 13, 2014

# ? Sep 13, 2014 15:43

Burkion: May 10, 2012; by Fluffdaddy

PriorMarcus posted:

I'm interested to see all of your reactions to one aspect of this episode in particular.

Maybe it'll be cut like Rusty exploding!

We could be that lucky right?

Right?

# ? Sep 13, 2014 16:02

Bicyclops: Aug 27, 2004

This looks to me to be the requisite Moffat horror of the season. They're usually inoffensive at worst, if I can recall.

# ? Sep 13, 2014 16:05

DoctorWhat: Nov 18, 2011; A little privacy, please?

Burkion posted:

Maybe it'll be cut like Rusty exploding!

We could be that lucky right?

Right?

Please stop this poo poo. I'm trying to go into this (and E5) unspoiled. Don't be all coy, it's very irritating.

# ? Sep 13, 2014 16:06

Random Stranger: Nov 27, 2009

I'm continuing to work my way through the old series and I'm starting to recognize reused props and set dressing. Somebody help me before it's too late!

# ? Sep 13, 2014 17:10

Burkion: May 10, 2012; by Fluffdaddy

DoctorWhat posted:

Please stop this poo poo. I'm trying to go into this (and E5) unspoiled. Don't be all coy, it's very irritating.

I'm not saying anything about episode 5.

I'm talking about the fact that in the rough cut for Into the Dalek, Rusty blew itself up at the end, which just kind of made everything pointless. One of the big points I give to the episode is leaving Rusty alive so he can come back in the future!

Like Jenny! Who Moffat specifically asked to be left alive so she could...

...not ever return I guess.

# ? Sep 13, 2014 17:12

Hemingway To Go!: Nov 10, 2008; im stupider then dog shit, i dont give a shit, and i dont give a fuck, and i will never shut the fuck up, and i'll always Respect my enemys.
- ernest hemingway

I was surprised when Rusty did not kick the bucket at the end, that's how these kinds of tales usually go. Instead Rusty goes off on a venture.

I think Rusty has more possibilities than Jenny, and I kind of hope he stays in canon (daleks having memory alteration hardware and being okay with it, as I posted previously, actually makes a lot of sense and could do some interesting things... unlike whatever the hell was going on with Jenny)

I'll also mention that I saw 11's seasons first, so I did not know the trio didn't have an origin in 9 and 10's stories, and also have a bit of face blindness, so when Jenny showed up I wondered for a it if they were in fact the same person before realizing that made no sense.

# ? Sep 13, 2014 17:29

PriorMarcus: Oct 17, 2008; ASK ME ABOUT BEING ALLERGIC TO POSITIVITY

Burkion posted:

I'm not saying anything about episode 5.

I'm talking about the fact that in the rough cut for Into the Dalek, Rusty blew itself up at the end, which just kind of made everything pointless. One of the big points I give to the episode is leaving Rusty alive so he can come back in the future!

Like Jenny! Who Moffat specifically asked to be left alive so she could...

...not ever return I guess.

I wonder what happened to her? I'm surprised she didn't get a tie in novel or reappear. Maybe one day.

# ? Sep 13, 2014 17:29

Cliff Racer: Mar 24, 2007; by Lowtax

Burkion posted:

I'm not saying anything about episode 5.

Yes you are, apparently there's something awkward or controversial about it. Thanks for telling us all that, jerk.

Cliff Racer fucked around with this message at 18:22 on Sep 13, 2014

# ? Sep 13, 2014 17:43

Plavski: Feb 1, 2006; I could be a revolutionary

Rita Repulsa posted:

I was surprised when Rusty did not kick the bucket at the end, that's how these kinds of tales usually go. Instead Rusty goes off on a venture.

I think Rusty has more possibilities than Jenny, and I kind of hope he stays in canon (daleks having memory alteration hardware and being okay with it, as I posted previously, actually makes a lot of sense and could do some interesting things... unlike whatever the hell was going on with Jenny)

I'll also mention that I saw 11's seasons first, so I did not know the trio didn't have an origin in 9 and 10's stories, and also have a bit of face blindness, so when Jenny showed up I wondered for a it if they were in fact the same person before realizing that made no sense.

Nicholas Briggs probably got down on his hands and knees and begged Moffat not to kill him off so Big Finish could one day give him his own range.

# ? Sep 13, 2014 17:46

Trin Tragula: Apr 22, 2005

Airdate tonight is 7:30pm QOSTZ, Johnny Foreigners beware. That's about 25 minutes. We've also got another 50-minute episode.

Autonomous Monster posted:

We're going to stop making new threads!

To commemorate this, a new thread!

(Sorry Trin, it made me laugh.)

Why'd you think I did it? Come on, give me a bit of credit here.

# ? Sep 13, 2014 19:05

marktheando: Nov 4, 2006

I'll actually be at home to watch this live for once, but since I don't actually have my tv hooked up to an aerial I'll still have to watch it on iplayer. Watching tv in the future is strange.

# ? Sep 13, 2014 19:16

Solaris Knight: Apr 26, 2010; ASK ME ABOUT POWER RANGERS MYSTIC FORCE

It's almost time for 2 Spooky 4 Me: Doctor Who edition. :toot:

# ? Sep 13, 2014 19:20

Noxville: Dec 7, 2003

Trin Tragula posted:

We've also got another 50-minute episode.

How frequently Moffat's episodes run long does make me laugh in light of his comments about there being no stories that can't be told in 45 minutes.

# ? Sep 13, 2014 19:20

HD DAD: Jan 13, 2010; Generic white guy.; Toilet Rascal

This and the next one are directed by Douglas Mackinnon. Loved his direction in The Power of Three, was kinda meh on his take on Cold War. Let's see how this goes!

# ? Sep 13, 2014 19:27

Plavski: Feb 1, 2006; I could be a revolutionary

Just noticed that the show on before - somw dancing malarky - is produced by Andrew Cartmell :haw:

# ? Sep 13, 2014 19:30

Jerusalem: May 20, 2004; Would you be my new best friends?

Well that's off to a suitably creepy start.

# ? Sep 13, 2014 19:34

KOGAHAZAN!!: Apr 29, 2013; a miserable failure as a person

an incredible success as a magical murder spider

Wait, did Moffat just reinvent the Silence? :geno:

# ? Sep 13, 2014 19:34

Jerusalem: May 20, 2004; Would you be my new best friends?

In a clever twist, the horror of this episode is the horror of the awkward first date.

# ? Sep 13, 2014 19:36

KOGAHAZAN!!: Apr 29, 2013; a miserable failure as a person

an incredible success as a magical murder spider

Seriously, enough with the Doctor pissing on Clara please.

# ? Sep 13, 2014 19:38

Plavski: Feb 1, 2006; I could be a revolutionary

Capaldi just gets better every week

# ? Sep 13, 2014 19:38

SiKboy: Oct 28, 2007; Oh no!😱

Jerusalem posted:

In a clever twist, the horror of this episode is the horror of the awkward first date.

The Ambassadors... OF AWKWARDNESS.

# ? Sep 13, 2014 19:39

Cruel Rose: May 27, 2010; saaave gotham~
come on~
DO IT, BATMAN
FUCKING BATMAN I FUCKING HATE YOU

I thought she was asking "how long have you been drinking?" for a moment there.

# ? Sep 13, 2014 19:39

Kin: Nov 4, 2003; Sometimes, in a city this dirty, you need a real hero.

Autonomous Monster posted:

Seriously, enough with the Doctor pissing on Clara please.

Nope. More please.

# ? Sep 13, 2014 19:39

Chucat: Apr 14, 2006

I have a deskbed I can't identify with any of this.

# ? Sep 13, 2014 19:40

GonSmithe: Apr 25, 2010; Perhaps it's in the nature of television. Just waves in space.

That smile was absolutely fantastic.

# ? Sep 13, 2014 19:41

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# ? Apr 20, 2024 03:46

KOGAHAZAN!!: Apr 29, 2013; a miserable failure as a person

an incredible success as a magical murder spider

Chucat posted:

I have a deskbed I can't identify with any of this.

Mine was on stilts. I knew what was under there: mostly books.

# ? Sep 13, 2014 19:42

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