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pgroce
Oct 24, 2002
First: That was an awesome episode, F the h8rs. TARDIS going to Gallifrey was a little WTF, but it's not like that hasn't happened before in the last 18 months.

More interestingly (to me), both Moffat and Capaldi seem to be borrowing the new Doctor's characterization liberally from Hugh Laurie's Dr. House. I've often thought both roles had a lot in common (and both owed a lot to Sherlock Holmes) so I'm pretty cool with this.

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pgroce
Oct 24, 2002

Astroman posted:

"You're a beautiful woman. Probably."

Capaldi is nailing the alienness of The Doctor and if you want to see a bunch of misogyny up in this piece, it speaks more to you then the characterization.

No, the misogyny's there. This isn't the Doctor not knowing what's attractive, it's the Doctor regularly asserting that he does know what's attractive, and Clara isn't. The jokes are put-downs, and I find them irritating and unnecessary, too. If they were "I'm sure she's quite attractive, I wouldn't know," they wouldn't bother me.

I suspect this has to do with Moffat writing through a very dudebro lens. Vastra and Jenny have the same problem; they're really darned lesbian-by-way-of-straight-guy. (Note, I'm not saying Moffat is a terrible misogynist, just that those jokes pretty clearly are, and I understand why they make people uncomfortable. They make me uncomfortable.)

pgroce
Oct 24, 2002
I've watched this one three times, and I'll probably watch it at least once more. Don't get the complaints about pacing, I feel like it starts fast and stays that way and it's awesome. (Especially since, yeah, there are one or two things that will clunk a bit if you think too hard about them.)

Capaldi is definitely channeling Tom Baker (like when Psi says they'll regret it if the bomb kills them and he says "Well, not very long."), but there's a distinctive Twelve emerging, too, as when Clara asks if he's broken up about Saibra and he essentially says "She's dead, prioritize or you will be too." That whole scene, really, is not one I would expect from Smith or Tennant -- maybe Eccleston -- but if there's a "Classic Twelve" yet, that's it.

Jakiri's points about flaunting the genre convention are well-taken, but doing the heist setup at the beginning would screw up the twist at the end -- that they did the setup and recruitment themselves. (Admittedly not a tough twist to see coming, but still.) As it is, the setup establishes instant tension. It may be more accurate to say they didn't make a full heist episode, just the part they cared to make.

There's a whole second post I could make on how this reminds me of a form you saw more in Old Who. In particular, it reminds me of The Leisure Hive. Maybe I'll write that up later when people are annoying the hell out of me with Big Finish reviews. :)

Despite Clara not getting much to do (the non-Doctor action was spread between three people, which may have had something to do with it) I think this may have been my favorite of the season so far.

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