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I could kinda see a merk/Rarity gambit, but for now it seems more likely to treat it as the more probable situation that they're both town who were able to contribute. I cannot come up with a convincing narrative for contributing only 5 as a town player - it seems to make a hell of a lot more sense as a scum play. I'm kinda not comfortable with how quickly everyone's jumped on Rascyc though when Magnus only contributed one more and had volunteered earlier.
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Magnus Gallant posted:I decided to join because I wanted to be one of the four. I know I'm town and I knew I submitted what I submitted so if there was a failure id be able to at least have some view into the points and only have three different people to check out to see if I believe them. So what do you think of Rascyc's play? I don't really see how your play makes much sense even from an information gathering perspective. We could have and nearly did fail the check not from (overt) sabotage but simply from not contributing enough. If that had happened, what information would we have gained?
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Sep 25, 2014 21:26
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apostateCourier posted:Merk- how many points did you get? Nope.
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Sep 25, 2014 21:27
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Rarity posted:Firstly, 5 is nowhere near 1/4 of 27. Now you saying that you assumed people could contribute enough to make up for it doesn't vibe with this at all.
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Sep 25, 2014 21:29
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Kerro posted:I could kinda see a merk/Rarity gambit, but for now it seems more likely to treat it as the more probable situation that they're both town who were able to contribute. Ras has been on alert from the moment I first said one of the other three was scum. His explanation for his contribution is weak and contradictory. While I think Magnus's contribution is also pretty lame, his reasoning that it would give him insight into other players sounds more reasonable and it's a move I can easily see him making.
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What is contradictory? That's the first time you've mentioned that word.
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Rascyc posted:I'm not going to reveal all my scores to you, sorry. I think my previous answer speaks enough for what I was going for here. I didn't ask you to reveal your scores and I'm not sure why you think that I was. I was pointing out the most logical thought processes arising from whatever your possible scores are.
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Rascyc posted:What is contradictory? That's the first time you've mentioned that word. Rarity posted:Firstly, 5 is nowhere near 1/4 of 27. Now you saying that you assumed people could contribute enough to make up for it doesn't vibe with this at all. You do know what paraphrasing means, right?
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Sep 25, 2014 21:33
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Rarity posted:If you had an 8/9, which is what you'd need to have to think you could get away with submitting 5, then you wouldn't think of 5 as 'pretty good'.
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Rascyc posted:This is basically asking me to corroborate my highest scores. Not even close. There are two possibilities: 1) Your highest score is 8 or 9 so you think it's ok to volunteer with 5. In that case you wouldn't think 5 was 'pretty good'. 2) Your highest score is 7 or less in which case 5 is pretty good but you wouldn't want to risk submitting it for a total of 27 from 4 people. Whatever your highest score is, your stated thought processes don't follow a logical town reasoning.
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Sep 25, 2014 21:37
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Rarity posted:You do know what paraphrasing means, right?
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Sep 25, 2014 21:38
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Rascyc posted:Yes what's the contradiction? Elaborate more. Holy poo poo are you even reading my posts? I literally just explained it. Rarity posted:Not even close. There are two possibilities: Do I need to add glowing sirens?  Rarity posted:Not even close. There are two possibilities:
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 Rarity posted:Not even close. There are two possibilities:
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I still don't get it. Can you break it down more?
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Sep 25, 2014 21:41
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5 + 6 + 8 + 8 = 27 what am I missing?
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Sep 25, 2014 21:41
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RAS I'M NOT SURE IF YOU NOTICED THAT COULD YOU CONFIRM PLEASE?
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Rascyc posted:5 + 6 + 8 + 8 = 27 what am I missing? Ah yo veo la problema. No hablas ingles! Rarity posted:Ni siquiera cerca . Hay dos posibilidades:
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Sep 25, 2014 21:45
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merk posted:Nope. Why not?
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Sep 25, 2014 21:45
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Rarity posted:Ah yo veo la problema. No hablas ingles!
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apostateCourier posted:Why not? It doesn't help Town out at all to publicly reveal my remaining points.
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Sep 25, 2014 21:51
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merk posted:It doesn't help Town out at all to publicly reveal my remaining points. I meant points reward for the challenge.
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Rarity posted:Ah yo veo la problema. No hablas ingles! Much rear end grassy rear end
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I think it's obvious that Rascyc is scum. His contribution makes absolutely no sense as Town.
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Sep 25, 2014 21:52
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Bus is a lil obv rar
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Sep 25, 2014 21:53
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apostateCourier posted:I meant points reward for the challenge. I assume I got two points, like it says publicly in the thread. I did not get a PM.
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I just realized what you did. That's a pretty lovely / game-breaking way to confirm me as Town. You should probably restart this setup after that post. I know apostate is Town and he knows I am Town because you didn't discuss whether you would send out PMs to players who won challenges with their point totals.
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Tremendous Taste posted:Bus is a lil obv rar I'll ask for scumtips when I'm scum, thanks 
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merk posted:I assume I got two points, like it says publicly in the thread. I did not get a PM. Oh. I feel dumb now. I completely missed that in the OP.
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Oh, wait, I did get a PM and forgot about it.
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merk posted:I just realized what you did. That's a pretty lovely / game-breaking way to confirm me as Town. I got a PM though 
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Sep 25, 2014 21:56
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...and apostate didn't even volunteer so the gambit wouldn't have made any sense at all. Disregard everything I said in the last five posts.
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Lol
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merk posted:...and apostate didn't even volunteer so the gambit wouldn't have made any sense at all. Disregard everything I said in the last five posts. I was wondering what the hell you were talking about!
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Sep 25, 2014 21:58
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merk posted:...and apostate didn't even volunteer so the gambit wouldn't have made any sense at all. Disregard everything I said in the last five posts. SA's best mafia player, ladies and gentlemen.
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merk posted:...and apostate didn't even volunteer so the gambit wouldn't have made any sense at all. Disregard everything I said in the last five posts. Nah. ##vote merk
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5ROhf5Soqs Anyway. I like Rarity's explanation and merk is  .
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Also, Kerro's line of posts up there at the top of the page is too nudging for me. Too much caution, not enough actual accusation. Way too safe in my opinion. ##vote Kerro
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That was pretty funny merk
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If I didn't get two things fundamentally wrong, it would have been gamebreaking.
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merk posted:If I didn't get two things fundamentally wrong, it would have been gamebreaking. Merks definitely town after that
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