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Hello, also confirmed.
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mfcrocker posted:No avatar no trust You could fix that you know. If only you had a generous heart.
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Sep 29, 2014 18:51
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tithin posted:Ask not for whom the bone bones, it bones for thee Are you... are you coming on to me?
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Sep 30, 2014 00:27
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Normally I would advocate against a no-lynch but with so many powerful town roles it would really suck to accidentally cap someone really useful (Sheriff, Investigator, etc.) On the other hand town literally being 100% power roles/there being third parties being detrimental to the town that are not Mafia I'm not opposed to getting a lynch done. Magnus asking TT to create a case seems kind of unreasonable though because it's day 1 - all there is to go off of is meta-judgments (which frankly I can't make with this being my second SA game). I am currently ill at ease voting for anyone currently voted for and I'm not finding a lot to base any kind of case off of except Magnus's fervor for lynching TT who evidently votes no-lynch D1 fairly frequently based on what I'm seeing/hearing? I dunno if that's enough to build off of. (tearshed has barely loving posted though what's up with that)
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Oct 1, 2014 04:16
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I'm not personally for the idea, but I will admit that there's no clear choice(s) to lynch. ##vote No Lynch
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Oct 1, 2014 07:17
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Somberbrero posted:I don't like Epsilon hedging his vote here. I just wanted the day to end. With how everyone was voting/the lack of any good leads a no-lynch was obvious.
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Oct 2, 2014 16:24
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Excellent life choices. So, who did you target and what was your reasoning?
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Oct 2, 2014 18:28
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Magnus Gallant posted:Nope it was smart. If only the way the roles worked wasn't stated in the OP C'mon. Obviously this was a poor choice; roles have literally been in the OP since day one. Reading them was the first thing you did. Try just admitting it was dumb! We'll forgive you.
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Oct 2, 2014 19:22
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An excellent question! Magnus would be a pretty obvious choice but I'm undecided on him - he could have just made a poor choice with his roleclaim, but now that we're cooling a bit on him he may be getting away scot-free. The only way to know 100% is if someone comes forward as a sheriff or investigator, which I would not recommend. I'm not a super great mafia player so making a call is difficult. I also want to know why he's not pushing TT again as he was So Sure on the previous day. Mostly I'm suspicious of anyone who didn't vote D1 - mfcrocker, Opopanax, Pinterest Mom and Poison Mushroom didn't vote. Pintrest Mom is dead, Opopanax is talking a bit, PM is quiet but could be at work or something? Not sure how I feel about that. If you forced me to guess I'd pick Magnus Gallant, Opopanax, Poison Mushroom and Somberbrero (maybe not all mafia - one could be an arsonist or something I dunno). Ask me again D3? Also since we're engaged in a dialog: mfcrocker posted:So you don't think any other good could come out of D1 that you wanted it over that quickly? Pretty much! I'm here to play, not dither around while inevitable votes slowly trickle in. I was on the fence for lynch/no-lynch to begin with. The only person I would have wanted to vote was Magnus but it was obvious that wasn't going to happen.
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Oct 2, 2014 19:51
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Why do I need to die?
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Oct 2, 2014 20:04
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Somberbrero posted:Your opinions are inconsistent and wishy-washy. Your posting seems forced and fake. It's how this player plays the game  I like to take a wait and see approach on all things in my life. We've got 48 hours to work with, so I might as well mull things over.Somberbrero posted:Even if you're town you are a massive liability. I don't want you around in lynch-lose. This is some reasoning I can get behind, however - if Magnus starts poisoning people along with lynches and nightkills, we're gonna bleed dry pretty quick. Even if only on odd nights, it's a risk. ##vote Magnus Gallant
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Oct 2, 2014 20:22
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Somberbrero posted:Epsilon it is weird that you hemmed and hawwed over whether or not to vote Magnus and hovered around to see what the popular opinion would be, especially when you make a very good point in regards to Magnus & TT. Honestly, you made a better point than I did. I didn't think about a lynch-lose situation. If you don't want people following you, try being stupid like me. Somberbrero posted:It's weird that you assume one of your scumlist would be a third party, unprompted. What about anyone there indicates third-party behavior? It's weird that you think I'm scum when I don't match your previously established criterion, which is not having voted day one. Statistics? I'm assuming there's 4 scum, 2 third parties and 7 town (or maybe 3/2/8 I dunno). I know neutral roles are in the game so I "budgeted" for it. More important, I was asked who I think is suspicious - not who I think is scum. Third parties can harm the town and we should be on the lookout for them! I think you're potential scum given your posting, plus a bit of gut feeling. I'm not pointing a finger; I think it's too early to do that.
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Oct 2, 2014 20:50
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Day 1 was dead and done before I even voted. I like to think things through but when the only real option is to vote no-lynch I'll take it. The only person I wanted to pull for was Magnus but that obviously wasn't happening.
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Oct 2, 2014 21:29
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How did someone not protect the investigator What the gently caress happened there God drat it guys. If you're a sheriff, for gently caress's sake don't come forward. Unless you're Tearshed. Tearshed, what have you been up to? What are your thoughts, your feelings? Grace us with your presence, fucker. CapitalistPig posted:I think I believe her. I believe her, too, at least with regards to the busdriver/getting blocked part. My rear end is lucky to be alive.
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Oct 4, 2014 06:59
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It's less outrage and more of an incredulous giggle but whatever arms your crusade I guess
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Oct 4, 2014 19:32
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Somberbrero posted:'Crusade' is silly hyperbole. Who is scum, Epsilon? Enemies of the Communist Party. If you want me to actually analyze people and make a case to present to you, it'll need to wait; I work until about midnight EST assuming no weirdness at my job. Please do not brutally lynch me beforehand!
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Oct 5, 2014 00:02
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Who I Think Should Die, Or At The Very Least Who Should Apologize Profusely, a book by Epsilon Plus Tearshed: tearshed posted:Man, short day yesterday. Only 12 hours. Tearshed is barely posting and the one post of serious importance is disagreeing with Somberbrero, who made a lot of very good points and who was probably the main reason Magnus was lynched so effectively. I feel like they are just dodging scrutiny via inactivity (but! to be fair, they could just be busy - god knows I'd rather do things on my break than try to re-read pages of this game whilst on the crapper at work). Capitalist Pig: Posting, but not much content. Being vouched for by Tearshed with no real context. Bonus Content! I don't have a third pick for scum because frankly I'm not picking up on a whole lot to work with because, surprise, Somberbrero has been up my rear end since Magnus died and frankly I feel like I'm the only "scum" being hunted. Somberbrero: Somberbrero posted:Epsilon is also scum, by the by. Somberbrero posted:Even though Epsilon is scum, we need to lynch Magnus anyway. I don't really care what order we do that in, either is kind of unfortunate since both those players are active. These two gems where you attempt to discredit me without any attempt at explanation, followed up with Somberbrero posted:Epsilon it is weird that you hemmed and hawwed over whether or not to vote Magnus and hovered around to see what the popular opinion would be, especially when you make a very good point in regards to Magnus & TT. It's weird that you assume one of your scumlist would be a third party, unprompted. What about anyone there indicates third-party behavior? It's weird that you think I'm scum when I don't match your previously established criterion, which is not having voted day one. where you believe I'm scum for... agreeing with you? You legitimately made a good point that I, in my inexperience, overlooked - that a reckless poisoner is a liability. Similarly, what I had posted earlier didn't have any particularly strict criteria; only that I was vaguely considering a group of people. Forgive me for not adhering to strict scientific rigor when replying to what I thought was a basic question! Following that up you confuse two spots of humor (sorry!) for some kind of horrid scum tell. I am very sorry I used the word "crusade" when disregarding your complete lack of an actual case presented. I think Somberbrero just picked up on one bad statement I made and is honing in on it, or possibly an Executioner with lynching me as his goal. Magnus was much more critical, but even when attempting to discredit Magnus he was working me over. Also if anyone gives a poo poo I'm the escort. Night one I roleblocked Magnus Gallant because he was hellbent on TT and I was concerned that TT might not make it through the night (statistically, TT is/was more likely to be town than scum). Night two I roleblocked mfcrocker because both Somberbrero and mfcrocker were gunning for me, but Somberbrero's actions made me feel that he was more than likely either a town role just trying to be helpful or an Executioner who needed me dead to claim personal victory while mfcrocker was more interested in just having me dead. If mfcrocker was going to protect tithin, well... poo poo! Sorry dudes. With what appears to be two roleblockers, a jailor and who else knows what's going on I probably didn't think that through and I do apologize. I would also be concerned if mfcrocker immediately came back saying "yes I was going to protect him, ergo Epsilon is scum", though, so... I'd really like to hear what people other than Somber and mfcrocker have to say, however. If I'm to be lynched, I'd at least like to see everyone's opinion so that you know who to trust after my corpse is hoisted.
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Oct 5, 2014 04:18
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I also had less people actively looking to lynch me then, and now I have a (claimed) PR to justify and pick targets for. It's not just based on a binary town/scum state.
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Oct 5, 2014 06:05
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Poison Mushroom posted:Do you actually think these people are scum, or are you just mad at them for voting you? I think Somber is town or at least a benign third party. mfcrocker I have no solid grasp on. Tearshed and to a lesser extent CPig are who I actively suspect.
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Oct 5, 2014 06:44
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If you can't see why having a poisoner running around killing people at random is a bad thing I am not sure how to explain it more effectively than previous players have. We technically lynched a townie, but someone killing without direction is a liability regardless of alignment. If he had kept silent until later to try and coordinate a potential scum kill, that would have been reasonable.
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Oct 5, 2014 07:01
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##vote tearshed
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Oct 5, 2014 07:07
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Why PM? She is making reasonable points.
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Oct 5, 2014 21:58
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Stupid newbie question: how the hell does TT being a survivor end the game the next day?
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Oct 6, 2014 14:11
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Yeah, I'm the roleblocker. I blocked Opopanax last night because his posting all game has been straddle-the-fence poo poo - the most he's ever really done is explain someone else's actions without contributing much else beyond that except votes. I feel like he's being too quiet, especially for Day 3 and 4 with no scum dead. I really want to know what you've been up to. Also ##vote Poison Mushroom
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Oct 7, 2014 06:07
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If I was scum, and I'm as bad a player as you seem to think I am, don't you think one of my scumbuddies would have told me to shut up and sit down?
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Oct 7, 2014 06:19
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CapitalistPig posted:Then you're an idiot Well with evidence like that
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Oct 7, 2014 18:44
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Poison Mushroom posted:I have no idea who to believe anymore. This game is absurd and it's entirely our own fault.
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Oct 7, 2014 23:52
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CapitalistPig posted:Please lynch the liar epsilon. Okay. Lampsacus posted:OK so unless PMush is lying and the real driver turns up - my result on Opop was accurate. ##unvote ##vote Lampsacus
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Oct 8, 2014 00:17
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Really though, I was making a joke based off of those two statements. Even if I'm scum and my scumbuddies all vote for Lamp the dude is in no danger of being lynched. Let me go over the day when I get home and I'll get back to you. ##unvote
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Oct 8, 2014 00:30
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Currently I think that TT is some kind of neutral role we honestly don't need to worry about - his posting style has made it pretty clear that he's disconnected from the game. CPig has counter-claimed me, which I of course find inherently suspicious having claimed the same role previously. So far I've got these players, in order of most-lynchable to least-lynchable: 1. CPig 2. TT CPig claims night 2 that he was "completely ineffectual", shortly after PMush says she was roleblocked. I've already stated I roleblocked mfcrocker that night (although it was afterwards). His posting has been pretty lackluster all game but I assume he's doing it from his phone (look at those periods) or busy or some poo poo, so that's a non-issue. The only time he's really dug into somebody was with Magnus, though - but we appeared to be pretty much all in agreement at that point. I was suspicious of CPig the previous night but didn't have much to back it up at the time. PMush, I think you're either telling the truth and you're the bus driver, or it's (less) likely you're the Witch. However, you've not done a whole lot with your day phase - you mostly appear to be fighting with TT instead of doing anything particularly useful. Having you around as a bus driver is useful though; as we've not gotten any scum yet, even if you're just randomly swapping people you're getting more likely to nail scum (assuming scum don't do something ridiculous like target one of themselves on the off-chance you randomly select a scum). So: 1. CPig 2. PMush 3. TT Lampsacus seems to be coasting by on having claimed sheriff despite a wide variety of interesting posts! Lampsacus posted:##vote no lynch This is the exact same poo poo I've been slammed for previously. Similarly: Lampsacus posted:I don't understand agreeing that Mag is a town role AND voting to lynch them. This was after the reasons for lynching Magnus Gallant were pretty clearly stated. This is the same thing Teashed got lynched for (at least partially, in my opinion). Ras stated it more clearly than me with: Rascyc posted:I don't want these posts to vanish into the ether. There is something really wrong with this sequence. It goes from an over-explanation of strategies to "Is lynch all liars a thing on SA Mafia?" to "I misread Magnus" to "Lynch all liars". Also TT brought up the interesting gambit possibility, which I'm not sure if I buy but I'm definitely thinking about it. So now we stand at: 1. CPig 2. PMush / Lampsacus 3. TT I've already stated how I feel about Opop: 1. CPig 2. Opop 3. PMush / Lampsacus 4. TT mfcrocker's actions appear to contradict TT's, and I don't think TT has any real reason to lie about his role/his posting is a pretty clear tell for his role. He also claims to have used his night action on TT twice under belief that he was the jailor. Moreover, he states that TT interacted with Magnus that night, which doesn't mesh with the roles TT could feasibly be. So: 1. CPig 2. Opop 3. mfcrocker 4. PMush / Lampsacus 5. TT Finally Ras's posting doesn't have anything particular pointing out, other than disagreeing with me on CPig, which isn't really anything to build a case on. But still more likely to be scum than TT. So basically my list, after rereading the entire thread several times and confusing myself more than once is: 1. CPig 2. Opop 3. mfcrocker 4. PMush / Lampsacus 5. Ras 5. TT ##vote Capitalist Pig and I won't be changing that unless something compelling comes up. This is about all I can wring out with my limited experience. Feel free to ask me questions or call me a huge scumlord, whichever
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Oct 8, 2014 03:52
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Poison Mushroom posted:That is an admirable effort at a fake effort port. I sure wish I knew what that meant.
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Oct 8, 2014 06:06
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Yeah but here's the thing, there could be framers and all kinds of fuckery. Cpig is claiming my role so he is 100% undoubtedly scum. Opop could still not be due to actions.
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Oct 8, 2014 21:06
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yeah I roleblocked cpig and was roleblocked in return. what a twist! also ##vote cpig
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Oct 10, 2014 15:06
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If you were so sure on Opop yesterday, why weren't you voting him instead of me?
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Oct 10, 2014 16:23
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I would like to thank my skumfriends for putting up with my atrocious posting and everyone else for not killing me
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Oct 10, 2014 21:49
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Somberbrero posted:Well done Epsilon. I can't believe you got away with that, but you did! Cap, shoulda claimed earlier on that one. I should have pushed it harder too. Yeah at least twice I offered for my team to kill me, I was seriously worried about sinking the game. TT is my new best friend.
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Poison Mushroom posted:GODDAMMIT I KNEW YOU WERE SCUM EP. WHY DID NONE OF YOU LISTEN TO ME. Yeeeah with every single non-scum player suspecting me for a few nights I'm not sure how I survived.
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