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We should just rewatch Numb3rs each week instead of this show. CBS, you done us wrong.
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Got around to watching most of the pilot but it is too dumb to finish. The ridiculous plot (and over the top action scenes which I saw only in a preview) could be fun but I really dislike the characters and their dialog is atrocious.
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Oct 1, 2014 06:59
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Josh Lyman posted:We should just rewatch Numb3rs each week instead of this show. CBS, you done us wrong. Or leverage. Episode 2 was so bad it actually made me angry.
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Oct 1, 2014 09:24
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TheChad posted:Or leverage. I got about half-way through episode 2 and just gave up. Badly written, badly acted and terrible plots. Sadly I think this means it will go for 7 seasons.
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Oct 1, 2014 13:29
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For a show about really smart people, it's really really dumb.
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Oct 7, 2014 02:18
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This hardass guy in charge is so terrible
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Oct 7, 2014 02:30
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Watched episode three out of morbid curiosity. my review: 
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Oct 7, 2014 06:18
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I want to like this show, but they're doing so much stupid poo poo. It isn't necessary to have every member of the team have something to contribute in every situation. That ends up looking contrived and dumb. Good thing the engineer was around to use the water bottle as a magnifier. Who knows what they would have done. Too much stupid CSI-style fake science. Who do they have consulting on this show? I feel like i'm watching Numb3rs, except numb3rs at least had likeable characters. Also, Scorpion can't decide if it wants to be goofy like Leverage, or serious like Person of Interest, and it's suffering for it. edit: The ending to ep 3 was cringe-worthy. Digital Prophet fucked around with this message at 07:18 on Oct 7, 2014 |
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Oct 7, 2014 07:11
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Gawain The Blind posted:I want to like this show, but they're doing so much stupid poo poo.
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Oct 7, 2014 07:36
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Given that Walter O Brian is a executive producer on this show it's not surprising his alter ego on the show is a fault-less super genius who's tragically flawed but always saves the day. Based on ratings, this show is going to stick around, continue making up completely ludicrous plots, and stroke O'Brian's ego to insane levels until Vice or someone else outs him for his lies. Episode 3 is generally as bad as the rest. Just as a broad idea, I really don't think essential services such as "the internet" can be taken out by one bomb in the right place. Not going to bother except Happy's fatal flaw is her temper (oh no!). So, for the list Walter- haunted by his sister's MS, promises to cure it, anti-authority streak Happy- anger, temper issues Calculator- is almost certainly autistic, loses money, easily panics and freezes up, OCD, etc. Brain guy- Compulsive gambler, probably borrows money off all friends and family, doesn't pay it back Waitress- Is constantly naive to the group's problems and has to be the one to "mom-talk" to Walter when his super-genius gets to be too much And let me just re-iterate, the actress playing Happy has the worst enunciation and dialect I've heard from a actress on TV. pentyne fucked around with this message at 09:36 on Oct 7, 2014 |
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Oct 7, 2014 09:34
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Gawain The Blind posted:I want to like this show, but they're doing so much stupid poo poo. This show has the person with the 6th high IQ in the world (Walter O'Brien) working as an executive producers who writes the base stories and consults on the technology aspects of the show. Atleast this episode did not have a flashback to child Walter, which is an improvement. The mainplot of course was terribly stupid again, but I have little hope that it will change. The worst moment was when they for some reason decided that the Homeland Security Nerd Herd should also be able to operate in IS occupied Syria and those Marines for some reason use breaching devices developed on the fly by female-chinese McGuyver? Oh and did you here about those shadowfiles that sit for 2 weeks on the routers of the internet? Yep, every router has enough storage capacity to save 2 weeks of throughput for some ~reasons.
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Oct 7, 2014 09:46
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GaussianCopula posted:This show has the person with the 6th high IQ in the world i think you mean 4th highest   oops wait that's not him  the resemblance is uncanny though.
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Wandle Cax posted:i think you mean 4th highest No he actually only claims to be 6th because his 193 IQ has a probability of about 1 in ~1.2 bil which means that 6 people on earth should be atleast as smart as him. It's also very funny that they changed it from "based on a true story" to "based on the life of Walter O'Brien"
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Oct 7, 2014 11:28
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He claims to literally have no emotional feelings because his left brain is dominant. Is that even real? Sounds like a James Bond villain.
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https://web.archive.org/web/20050204140002/http://www.iol.ie/~scorpion/start.htm I guess having a genius IQ doesn't help with web design. LOL From what I was reading online a large portion of his accomplishments/claim to fame are completely fabricated.
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Wandle Cax posted:He claims to literally have no emotional feelings because his left brain is dominant. Is that even real? Sounds like a James Bond villain. It's not but I guess you are right, he watched "The World is not Enough" where the villain gets a bullet in the head which made him immune to pain. O'Brien on the other hand seems to have built a persona for himself to promote his ventures. Keeping with the Bond villain theme have a look at his latest website (also poorly designed) http://www.conciergeup.com/ Highlights are "I want secret room in my house" (illustrated with a bookshelf triggered secret room) "I want to built a command center" "I want to pick winning racehorses based on their IQ and DNA" "I want to make a documentary movie" (yep, you can have your own </scorpion>) "I want a shark tank in my office" "I want to solve the problem of "fit" when buying clothes online" (why are you buying clothes online if you can spend cash on this hoax website?) "I want to built a casino overseas" (yep, even this tv villain trope had to fit in somehow) Just submit your wish and checkbox how much money you are willing to give them. Your options are $999 for a "consultation" or $10k-$100k, $101k-%500k and over $500k.
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Oct 7, 2014 12:38
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I'm gonna keep watching, but mostly because I like dumb TV. As long as they don't decide to take the depressing too far I'm OK with it. Plus I like some of the characters and actors. Eddie Thomas's guy is entertaining and I like Robert Patrick. The mechanic would be more interesting if they had her do more mechanical things, instead of "Here's a water bottle, let's use it as a magnifying glass but with an overly technical reason". While I'm not too fond of the ubermensch they make the main guy, I do get a kick out of how the actor was actually born in England and moved to NA as a kid. Probably makes his accent pretty close to what it should be. So did anyone else notice that this was probably the second episode, not the third? Looks like the execs moved around the airing order, which is a good indicator that the show won't get more than 1 season.
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Alkanos posted:So did anyone else notice that this was probably the second episode, not the third? Looks like the execs moved around the airing order, which is a good indicator that the show won't get more than 1 season. That does makes a lot of sense. There were a few things that had me wondering why it happened before you brought this idea up. Paige returning her uniform, repeatedly telling everyone she needs this job to pay after they got cash last episode, them being on test even though they saved the Gov. last week, the reference to the Bagdad Bombing from agent hardass but no mentioning of the sister.
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Oct 7, 2014 21:39
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This show is ridiculous. But it could be significantly improved if they found someone else to dub over happy's lines, she has the most annoying voice in the history of sound recording. I actually spent time looking for youtube clips of her in other stuff/interviews to see if it was the worst ever acting choice, or if she actually speaks like that, and yes, that is in fact her real voice. This is a very strong candidate for first show I'm going to drop when my TV load becomes too burdensome. I dropped the blacklist last season, and this show is worse than the blacklist. At least the blacklist had SmugSpader.
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GaussianCopula posted:So I did a bit of digging (well, really, I visited wikipedia) because I really liked the premise of the show (Numb3rs but with a team of smart people that do not only use math) but the show comes of really wrong, as if it has a hidden agenda. Well, it turns out that the real Walter O'Brien, who also works as executive producer on this show, seems to be full of poo poo. There are several claims of his that have been proven wrong (https://www.techdirt.com/articles/2...ty-genius.shtml has a good writeup). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_O%27Brien Read before the big "claims to" edit http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Walter_O%27Brien&oldid=627023606 quote:O'Brien claims to have founded Scorpion Computer Services in 1988, and through them sold more computers in Ireland than DELL and Gateway computers combined did, up to 1993.[6] This claim is unverifiable, as there is no publicly available information on a Scorpion Computer Services in Ireland, and both Dell and Gateway had not yet begun selling personal computers directly into the Irish market until several years later[7][8].
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pentyne posted:So, for the list Yeah this is the problem I have. Basically Walter flip flops between hyper capable in a panic or a blubbering mess when required, but is also the voice of reason to the rest of his team (or Paige is if he suddenly breaks down so she can have lines in the script). Happy is boring; I don't even hate the actress/her voice but she doesn't really provide her expertise into much of anything, except once ever in the pilot. She's also the least fleshed out of all of them. Human Calculator is the only consistent one of the bunch because at least he is almost always a blubbering mess when he has to do something outside his comfort zone. He's also not really fleshed out but at least he's consistent. The psych dude they try to pass off as sympathetic (like at the end of the second episode when his ex calls him back) but he is pretty much an rear end in a top hat through and through. I guess he is supposed to double as a grifter or something? Let's not get started on the fact that they all have an expertise and none of them use it 4 out of 5 times, because Walter is the computer genius so he just does computer things to make the plot continue. Because computers.
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The Lord Bude posted:This show is ridiculous. But it could be significantly improved if they found someone else to dub over happy's lines, she has the most annoying voice in the history of sound recording. I actually spent time looking for youtube clips of her in other stuff/interviews to see if it was the worst ever acting choice, or if she actually speaks like that, and yes, that is in fact her real voice. This, on the other hand, pretty much has no redeeming qualities.
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Sober posted:Yeah this is the problem I have. Basically Walter flip flops between hyper capable in a panic or a blubbering mess when required, but is also the voice of reason to the rest of his team (or Paige is if he suddenly breaks down so she can have lines in the script). Someone touched on it earlier, the bulk of "solving" always seems to be computer related, when everyone mans a terminal while Walter strolls around barking orders and acting like its a serious drama, then it'll try some "action" scene where each person gets to use their specialty, like psych dude profiling the bomber and using magic software to erase people from video and instantly ID'ing the guy on security footage. Not only is this show just bad in general, it's all over the place writing wise in order to force reasons for each main cast member to be essential to the plot at least once an episode, including waitress mother who has to dispense basic life lesson common sense and speak for the group because they don't know how to talk to people to help crack the case. On the plus side, the ratings dropped from a 3.1 to a 2.5 in the demo for the last episode. Hopefully its the start of a slide into cancellation.
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5 minutes in and I can't make it another second. The team is going to ~Vegas~, so obviously psyche guy's fatal flaw will be a big part. Walter originally tells him he's not going since his gambling addiction will be an issue, then waitress "common sense mom talks" to him and relents and tells psyche guy he can come. The meet the pretty daughter of the Casino owner and she starts spouting numbers and casino win/loss percentages and Walter is surprised "she knows her numbers", so either they hook up or she's the culprit. I expect the next episode to take place in slaughterhouse where computer guy has to be embedded as a cleaner so he can infiltrate and quickly memorize beef feed ratios, then after that engineer girl has to sneak into some good old boys organization and put up with the sexual harassment without snapping. Oh, no, Corbin Bernsen, they dragged you into this 
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So Happy is a "mechanical prodigy" what is that supposed to mean? Her accomplishments seem to be using a welding torch, repairing a motorcycle and knowing it's stupid to shoot a keypad lock. "I can't see any reason I'll ever need a crossbow again"? I can think of a lot of uses for a crossbow or its parts in various gadgetry and I barely know how a toaster works, those various high-tension/high-stress parts are handy. I was hoping this show would fill the Numb3rs/Leverage hole in my life. Then I was watching it because there's nothing else in the timeslot I cared about, same reason I'm hoping Gotham starts being good. Now I think I'll just download NCIS:LA on another day and make Mondays a TV-free evening.
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Oct 14, 2014 06:07
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Tonight's episode was better but still not good. The problem is there wasn't any fancy math/science going on, so it could have been an episode of any procedural.
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pentyne posted:5 minutes in and I can't make it another second. Obviously I know your suggestions are utter hilarity and would result in complete poo poo but it's if the writers didn't think of it or because REAL WALTER O'BRIEN decided no one except him gets more than their 15 minutes, I don't know what. I mean, it's pretty basic story design and character development if they at least had a single episode where one of the main characters had some emotional attachment to the case at hand, but I guess the show would rather suggest they are inhuman robots incapable of empathy and sympathy and just vomit out pure logic as the plot dictates. I mean, there were a few times I thought they were gonna actually do it, but the show seemed to just step back from it and either wash their hands of it or just do it completely half-heartedly and made it feel dishonest or have no real payoff. Also I guess cause it wasn't a government job they were on there was a bit of a tone change to be a little more light at times, which was probably for the better. Bruceski posted:So Happy is a "mechanical prodigy" what is that supposed to mean? Her accomplishments seem to be using a welding torch, repairing a motorcycle and knowing it's stupid to shoot a keypad lock. "I can't see any reason I'll ever need a crossbow again"? I can think of a lot of uses for a crossbow or its parts in various gadgetry and I barely know how a toaster works, those various high-tension/high-stress parts are handy.
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Oct 14, 2014 08:16
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Bruceski posted:So Happy is a "mechanical prodigy" what is that supposed to mean? Her accomplishments seem to be using a welding torch, repairing a motorcycle and knowing it's stupid to shoot a keypad lock. "I can't see any reason I'll ever need a crossbow again"? I can think of a lot of uses for a crossbow or its parts in various gadgetry and I barely know how a toaster works, those various high-tension/high-stress parts are handy. Her literal role? The tough chick. Making up her role as mechanical prodigy is almost secondary to her being gruff and unfriendly to people. Waitress is the people-smart (but not really) semi-head of the group so she always has to be full of compassion and empathy, and anytime Walter makes a decision she gets all concerned mother and makes him change his mind. I was amused how she took charge of the group once Walter was arrested. This episode wasn't as bad as previous, but without its super genius gimmick its just a really weak procedural when the field is packed with better ones.
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Oct 14, 2014 09:49
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Josh Lyman posted:You should go back to The Blacklist. It's really quite enjoyable. I think you'd need a scat fetish to enjoy this show.
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Oct 14, 2014 14:00
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Wait, that was one of the BETTER episodes? I watched this out of curiosity, it would take me an hour to detail everything wrong with it, but just from a TV show perspective having not a single likeable character is probably flaw #1. I get that these dudes all have IQs of like 200 but the show is writing these characters as though they have IQs of 4000. There's a scene where they turn $1000 into $250k in two hours through gambling because they're just that good. Math guy obviously knows nothing about sports but somehow within one hour he knows everything about sports betting because he can "Moneyball the hell out of it" cause he's so drat smart. Soon he's saying things like "what's the spread on the Giants in the 4th", never mind that an entire football game takes three hours and they only had two. Meanwhile big gambool dude is making a fortune at poker, and you wonder why they have real jobs at all. So they get $250k but they need $500k so dude just gambooools and throws it all on red WHILE THE WHEEL IS SPINNING, he just throws racks of $100 chips down, AS IF ANY CASINO IN THE HISTORY OF CASINOS WOULD ALLOW THIS. He loses and Walter gets all angry with him for "screwing it up" due to his complusive gambling, despite the fact that they NEEDED $500,000 in 2 hours to bail him out (because Walter was such an insufferable dick in the courtroom for literally no reason, WHERES YOUR SUPERHUMAN INTELLIGENCE NOW??), so really that was the only option wasn't it?? Either way the premises of the episode was alright, I thought "we are losing money at high-roller blackjack" was a good angle but they solved that by saying "one dealer is dealing slow" which you would think would be LITERALLY the first thing the casinos would look at, never mind the fact that it doesn't explain why they are LOSING money, but hey it's Walter so PROBLEM SOLVED. Like the show gives you no time to ponder this "explanation" but it doesn't make sense for a dozen different reasons. But the "real" plan is actually way dumber, apparently the idea to steal $10 million from inside a casino involves framing a team of people who are literally the smartest people on Earth, and they would've gotten away with it too if Walter hadn't just happened to share a cell with a guy who just happened to recall some incredibly relevant information from 30 years ago. Look, I'm all for this kind TV show when it at least displays some sort of self-awareness with respect for its own ridiculousness but this seemed to have absolutely none whatsoever. And the other episodes are WORSE!? tl;dr - gettin mad about TV shows
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Oct 14, 2014 15:36
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JAMOOOL posted:Wait, that was one of the BETTER episodes? No, that's pretty much it. I mean, no one ever really seriously gave a show like Leverage any poo poo about some of their asspulls for the plot, because it was fun to watch the cast do cool heists and they were all fun to watch. And frankly I really care so little about the how someone gets a clue or gets out of predicament in most cases if they can make up for it elsewhere. Obviously the better written stuff doesn't miss a beat either way but basically no one on the cast is particularly fun to watch because they all seem like variations on Dr. Sheldon Cooper anyway. I'm pretty close to dropping it because I don't think it's really going anywhere with anything in any aspect of the show.
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Sober posted:Obviously the better written stuff doesn't miss a beat either way but basically no one on the cast is particularly fun to watch because they all seem like variations on Dr. Sheldon Cooper anyway. You take that back! You can't compare Jim Parson's performance to anything on this show.
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Oct 14, 2014 18:00
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Sheldon works better because it's a sitcom but I feel like they missed the point and decided to make them all behave like Sheldon would, because hey nerds have trouble interacting with people, right?
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Oct 14, 2014 18:11
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I dropped my wife off at the airport the other day, and immediately realized that drinks on the plane were too expensive. So as the plane took off, I drove underneath it and they lowered down a straw into a drink I had in my cup holder and it all worked out great. Thanks, </scorpion>, or <scorpion/> really.
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Oct 14, 2014 18:23
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Also this is probably getting pedantic but they needed to free Walter that day because the courthouse would be closed over the weekend, meaning it was Friday, right? But then they show the math dude and he's clearly betting pro football.
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Oct 14, 2014 18:30
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JAMOOOL posted:Also this is probably getting pedantic but they needed to free Walter that day because the courthouse would be closed over the weekend, meaning it was Friday, right? But then they show the math dude and he's clearly betting pro football. The real reason the casino is losing money is because they run sports book on reruns of games.
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This show is what happens when writers create characters smarter than they are. Critics see through this kind of bullshit all the time, but obviously this all goes over the heads of 90% of the viewers. I'm pretty sure no one on the show understands what's being said, either. Of course, even without the techno-babble the show would still be poo poo. The plots are incredibly flimsy, nothing they do or face is actually possible, and I just can't find it in me to care about any of the characters, no matter how poorly they're porrrayed. Ugh what a massive disappointment this show is, though I'm not sure why I expected a CBS procedural about socially awkward geniuses to not be poo poo. The controversy over the real guy being full of poo poo does make the show also being full of poo poo a little bit more fun. Makes me believe there's any sense of karma in the world. e: oh and I can't wait until real Walter decided fake Walter should "get the girl" and start dating the mom because he's literally the center of this show's attention and so he gets anything he wants e2: the more I think about it the more I want to see something inspired by the actual life of Walter O'Brien, where only in his mind does he do all the poo poo he claims and in reality he's just a smart con man spinning a new hoax for everyone uublog fucked around with this message at 05:15 on Oct 15, 2014 |
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Josh Lyman posted:I had to stop after 15 minutes. I didn't even bother this week. There is far too much stuff for me to watch, I'm sorry scorpion you failed to make the cut.
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The Lord Bude posted:I didn't even bother this week. There is far too much stuff for me to watch, I'm sorry scorpion you failed to make the cut. Don't be sorry! This show suuuuucks
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