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It turns out we, the fans, were the real monsters all along.  Wanna visit that squirrel world tho.
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I did appreciate the whole writer thing with the new mcguffin and meta idea that they are Chuck's favorite show. Also, Amara loving keno made me giggle.
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Apr 26, 2019 14:26
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Wow, that was solid. Kind of bummer about Chuck, he was my favorite depiction of the Almighty.
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Apr 27, 2019 10:39
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Yea, it's a terrific way to underscore how we know NOTHING and cannot actually be sure of anything from the show's history now. Chuck controls reality, if he decides salt doesn't stop ghosts anymore? gently caress it, doesn't work anymore. He wrecks this reality? He just creates a new one. Guy can do a hell of a heel turn. Terrific actor. I think the best part is it turns out he basically announced his character when he was introduced. "Well, there's only one explanation. Obviously I'm a god... I'm definitely a god. A cruel, cruel, capricious god."
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Apr 27, 2019 10:59
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I also liked God actually doing something powerful for once and undoing the truth-telling chaos across the world. In this show, supposed Gods are often no different than other monsters but with added telekinesis and teleportation.
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Apr 27, 2019 15:50
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God (capital G) is kinda terrifying. The other gods are all kinda just... low level mid boss monsters. I still love the Christmas ones though.
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Apr 27, 2019 18:59
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I was kind of taken aback that this was the finale. Don't they usually have more episodes in a season? I'm not going to lie, 15 seasons later and I still get a rush when Kansas kicks in.
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Apr 27, 2019 20:50
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Turns out in the Supernatural universe the Gnostics were right. Chuck isn't a benevolent spiritual deity, he's a demiurge. Creation is always and forever hosed up no matter what he does because Chuck is hosed up.
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Apr 27, 2019 21:11
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Medullah posted:I was kind of taken aback that this was the finale. Don't they usually have more episodes in a season? Yea, they had a shorter season cause the bros wanted to spend more time with their families. CW and the stars were like "Sounds good, keeps em wanting to do the show longer!" Then they announce that next season is the last season anyway.
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Apr 28, 2019 01:30
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Please don't tell me theres still people not satisfied with the length of the show as it is. I mean it's still good in some respects but this show has been a horse dragging around a dead carcass for 10 years now.
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Apr 28, 2019 01:42
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RenegadeStyle1 posted:Please don't tell me theres still people not satisfied with the length of the show as it is. I mean it's still good in some respects but this show has been a horse dragging around a dead carcass for 10 years now. Oh don't get me wrong, I wasn't asking out of disappointment, just surprise. I'm pretty much at the point where any show can be cut down to 15 episodes max and it will improve it.
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Apr 28, 2019 04:09
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Haha, Chuck literally lays it out for them (and us) in his first appearance: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtETl-FyOAM "I am a cruel and capricious God." And the name of the episode? "The Monster At the End of the Book." 
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Apr 30, 2019 01:54
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Astroman posted:Haha, Chuck literally lays it out for them (and us) in his first appearance: Either way, this clip is A+ foreshadowing or inspiration.
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Apr 30, 2019 07:31
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Facebook Aunt posted:Turns out in the Supernatural universe the Gnostics were right. Chuck isn't a benevolent spiritual deity, he's a demiurge. Creation is always and forever hosed up no matter what he does because Chuck is hosed up. Psychepath posted:It'll be interesting to find out if there were ever ideas like this set in motion by the original 5 seasons' creators and writers for Chuck to be the big bad.
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Apr 30, 2019 16:50
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Tiggum posted:It's never made sense for him not to be, because if he created everything then he made monsters. You could explain away the bad things done by humans as free will in action, but on top of that he made a bunch of things that are just evil by default. And basically all of the angels' complaints are valid as well. He just left things to (metaphorically) go to hell because he either couldn't be bothered any more or because that's what he wanted to happen. Eve, seemingly the goddess of Purgatory, made all the monsters. It's in season six.
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Rando posted:Eve, seemingly the goddess of Purgatory, made all the monsters. It's in season six.
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Apr 30, 2019 17:41
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Tiggum posted:Except the gnostics said there was an actual good proper god above the bad one and it was possible to get out of this terrible world and be with the real proper god in heaven. There's no indication here that there's any level above Chuck. The boys are very much trapped in the material plane, they've never gone looking for a higher spiritual plane. Knowing there was another level wouldn't help them kill monsters. It does make the Heaven we've seen darker. It's pleasant, but it's just part of the trap keeping spiritual energy from escaping to the divine. You're blissed out reliving your happiest moment, but you're all alone. (Unless you wake up, break out, and go visit your friends in their personal heavens/cells.) Sophia (or someone) created Chuck and then was ashamed of what she did and locked him in a box, and even he doesn't know there's a higher level. He's filled his box with his flawed creations and thinks he's hot poo poo. None of which matters, except that people were annoyed about the Judaeo-christian mythos being the 'correct' religion. Clearly Chuck is not a benevolent creator. All of creation, including infinite alternate universes, is just entertainment for a spoiled child. There is no plan. Yeah, there is a heaven and hell but the christians are completely wrong about what gets you into heaven. And getting into heaven is not that great anyway, it's just better than the alternatives. When you die you don't get to go be with Chuck, you get stuffed in a happy box and used as a battery to power angel lasers.
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Apr 30, 2019 23:15
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Yep. Even the supposedly great heaven ending for Mary where she gets to be with John is fake. She really isn't with John probably, John could be in Hell, Purgatory, or 3 doors down from her, but that's probably just a illusion of John, and she's just living a loop of Happy Time over and over. Real Heaven is kinda lovely, from what we've seen. It's pointless like Hell, just without torture.
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Apr 30, 2019 23:25
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My favorite part of the episode was a lady, unable to lie, shouting "I am the Stapler Queen" Yeah girl, you are. Undeniably. Gimme a Queen of Staplers spinoff.
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May 2, 2019 17:29
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The boys being Chuck's 'favorite show' does explain a lot about the Jews though. Being Chuck's 'chosen people' is awful. 
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May 2, 2019 23:04
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Facebook Aunt posted:The boys being Chuck's 'favorite show' does explain a lot about the Jews though. Being Chuck's 'chosen people' is awful. Chuck: "Oh yeah, I TOTALLY love the Jews! They're like my peeps! I mean, I'm not giving them what they were promised in the end, but man, I love messing with them and giving them crazy rules and stuff! They'll do anything I tell them! And boy can they put up with some poo poo!" *clap!*
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May 2, 2019 23:27
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Finally caught up with the season hitting Netflix. Woah. That's quite the setup for a final season. I think I feel as excited as I did at the end of S4 to see where they go with the end of the world.
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May 8, 2019 06:28
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Same, just caught up. That early foreshadowing is good. It is just simply very, very good. I'm looking forward to how weird S15's going to get. Reminds me of this:  Except there needs to be another square for Supernatural: MAN vs. AUDIENCE
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May 10, 2019 19:50
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The last 15 mins of the final episode is just gonna be Chuck giving a monologue to the audience through the camera, and then flipping channels to something else that looks interesting to him. Gabriel had it right when he showed up in Changing Channels.
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May 10, 2019 20:02
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I honestly half expected when Chuck said "story over" for him to snap his fingers and to just get a "screen turning off" visual and then black. Obviously Chuck wants a bigger show.
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May 10, 2019 20:24
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My money is on the nothingness. All the angels, demons and monsters combined to form Captin Planet... But seriously if Jack can call Cass back , why not Crowley and the rest.
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May 12, 2019 22:33
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Show wise, I'd say it's cause he never knew him. Actor wise, it's cause they really pissed off Sheppard when they killed him off and he's written the show off.
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I powered through every episode over the last couple months (and then rewatched like 6 sessions after I finally convinced my mom to tune in) and now that I finished it last night, I...don't even know what to do with all my free time anymore. Started watching Lucifer but the angels are mega lame and the lore sucks. Might be suffering withdrawals.
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I'd have a tough time with anyone else playing Lucifer On Modern Earth at this point to get into another show. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCJsSA6ISa0 
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May 14, 2019 02:49
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That scene got a good chuckle out of me. 'Lucifer' would definitely be improved with Mark Sheppard as the lead. And also less lovely writing.
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May 14, 2019 03:09
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Lucifer improves a lot in the Netflix season, and the leads definitely have a ton of charisma/charm as it continues.
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I would absolutely watch a Supernatural spin-off where Crowley's trapped in the wrong universe then moves to LA to solve crimes.
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Accretionist posted:I would absolutely watch a Supernatural spin-off where Crowley's trapped in the wrong universe then moves to LA to solve crimes. He'd prefer he come back to Doom Patrol and be drunk constantly.
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May 14, 2019 05:57
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Anybody live in Vancouver and in need of some flannel shirts? https://twitter.com/SuperWiki/status/1143896698718048256 (12,000, holy poo poo)
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Jun 26, 2019 18:24
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Fire sale before they've shot the final season?
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Jun 26, 2019 18:29
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Well they ended the last season in a graveyard surrounded by zombies so the final season is just them holed up in a house with some rear end in a top hat in the basement.
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Bump for Big News for next season: https://screenrant.com/supernatural-season-15-adam-winchester-return/amp/ Probably the second most asked for piece of fanservice besides John returning. Personally I think it will be lame as gently caress if Crowley doesn't come back as well.
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Astroman posted:Personally I think it will be lame as gently caress if Crowley doesn't come back as well. The producers of the show seem to hate the actor, and from what I've heard he only got killed off due to behind the scenes drama. Wouldn't hold my breath on that one. (I want it to happen too)
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Sirotan posted:from what I've heard he only got killed off due to behind the scenes drama. I've never seen any actual evidence of that, but it would explain why they suddenly decided to kill him after going out of their way to keep him in the show for so long.
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I've never read any reason for it either, but I follow enough of the actors/writers/producers on Twitter etc to see that he's essentially become persona non grata. Doesn't get mentioned, doesn't get invited to those dumb conventions (where one of the features actors played a character who was on the show for 2 episodes).
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