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bird with big dick
Oct 21, 2015

You can come over to my house

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KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD
Jul 7, 2012

I'm moving into a place where I can't have a dedicated home theater. I am also really against having a giant TV in the living room. I have been an OLED zealot since they came out, and was considering putting one in the living room and having a piece of art on tracks that moves out of the way to reveal it. But now I am contemplating a projector instead.

How does the quality of high-end projectors these days compare to an OLED? I know I won't be getting the infinite blacks, but what about the colors? I assume I will be paying through the nose to get something that approaches OLED quality right?

wolrah
May 8, 2006
what?
You also won't be getting the popping colors with any projector most of us would consider "affordable", and even then you're going to need controlled light to get the best out of it.

In a living room application a projector is never going to be as good as an OLED.

That said have you considered a Samsung "The Frame" TV? I don't know what they do differently but when in their "art" mode you could easily not notice that it's a TV at all. I've only ever seen that on those TVs and the Google Nest Display thing. They're not OLEDs of course so they're not going to be as good when actually using them as a TV but it's still going to look a lot better than a projector in a normally lit room while blending in to the decor better when not in use.

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!
I love projectors and think they’re pretty excellent nowadays but they’re not going to pop like an OLED unless you’re spending a *lot more money

You could consider putting an OLED tv on a tasteful stand (Samsung makes some for their TVs that look excellent and there are a few third party models that I also really like), either easel-style, tripod-style, or as a cart with wheels. If you have Bang and Olufsen money you could look at some of their wheeled/freestanding OLED TVs.

Even something like a modern AV cart of the sort a school/university/office might have can look fine in the right decor space if you want a convenient and relatively secure way to have a big TV that you can tuck into a corner and/or roll out.

masterpine
Dec 3, 2014


wolrah posted:

That said have you considered a Samsung "The Frame" TV?
When setting up a few 'stylish' conference rooms at our office I grabbed a few of the 85" 'The Frames' with some fake teak borders. The main reason they look good when off or in art mode is that they use highly matte finished screens, when most TV's are glossy. Helps them blend in and just look like, well, picture frames. They're pretty low quality and low brightness panels though, they do not compare to modern or price equivalent normal QDLED or OLED displays.

Excellent for what they are. We also got a 65" 'Serif' as a portable display and it's great, kind of looks like an art deco 60's retrofuture television. The strange plastic shell on it is useful for resting presentation laptops and gear on top of. Very odd lineup of TV's but cool they exist.

BrainDance
May 8, 2007

Disco all night long!

So I'm not sure but I'm thinking it might be time to replace the bulb in my TH685. I noticed it seems a little more dim than usual? Even in the dark. Maybe it's just the games I'm playing I dunno but I noticed it on a show, too the other day, though maybe that just started making me pay more attention. According to the projector My light usage time is about 2000 hours, and something called "Equivalent Lamp Hour" is 7700 hours.

Either way, it doesn't seem too expensive so I thought why not. I went to go look up replacement bulbs online. I found what I think is the original bulb.


650RMB is like 95 US dollars

But when I was looking I found a bunch of other bulbs that say they work with the TH685 but are somewhat cheaper


Or much cheaper


I don't know how much it matters though. Do I absolutely not want to get the cheaper bulbs? Will they just likely be overall worse? Or, would I be a sucker to be buying official, more expensive, replacement bulbs? For all I even know maybe the non-original bulbs are even better, I dunno, newer light technology?

SCheeseman
Apr 23, 2003

Any new mid-range 4K low latency projectors planned for 2024? My BenQ W1080ST's HDMI port is on the fritz.

N.Z.'s Champion
Jun 8, 2003

Yam Slacker
I'm looking for a 4k projector for a room with ambient light

  • budget about $5k NZD ($3k USD)
  • for watching movies/TV (not gaming so I guess I don't need 60fps+)
  • already have a screen 230cm/90″ diagonal 16:9
  • ceiling mounted 2.4m/7.8ft away in middle of screen, so need vertical keystone but not horizontal keystone
  • there is some ambient light so more ansi lumens please sir. maybe 3500+ ansi lumens are needed?
  • would prefer laser or cheap replacement bulbs

Ones I'm looking at

Any recommendations?

N.Z.'s Champion
Jun 8, 2003

Yam Slacker
Ok I purchased an Epson 5050UB (TW8400) as for my price range it's apparently the best

Cabbages and Kings
Aug 25, 2004


Shall we be trotting home again?

N.Z.'s Champion posted:

Ok I purchased an Epson 5050UB (TW8400) as for my price range it's apparently the best

was this based on digging around on AVSForums or similar? Asking because I hope to be in the same boat in a couple months, upgrading from a BenQ HT2050 I got in 2016. At that time the advice from AVSForum etc was to buy that specific thing if you weren't trying to spend > $5000 USD, which I was not (2050 was $800ish in 2016). I'd like to go to 4k on something a bit brighter and it seems like it's finally affordable to do that.

I'd rather spend closer to 2k than 3k but the last one has run 7 years (w/1 bulb replacement); if I can get the same or better here that seems fine given how much media (mostly other) people in this house seem to consume.

e: digging into this; that's a 4Ke projector, so smack dab between 1080 and true 4k. The LS12000 gets there at $5000 US; I'll have to ponder this. I looked into it a couple years ago and at that point true 4k looked like a ~10k proposition, so prices have come down more than half in that time frame, considering inflation. Maybe if I wait another year or two they will do that again :sigh: As long as the current thing works, it is very much a want and not a need.

I wish I could look at the same image projected on the same screen, at 4Ke vs 4k. I think it's entirely possible that even with my glasses on I can't tell the difference on a 12' screen from 17' away.

Cabbages and Kings fucked around with this message at 22:59 on Apr 27, 2024

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N.Z.'s Champion
Jun 8, 2003

Yam Slacker
I got advice from reddit (😞)

https://www.reddit.com/r/hometheater/comments/1bjsg2t/ceiling_movie_projector_recommendations_for_3k/

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