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emocrat
Feb 28, 2007
Sidewalk Technology
Projector people, I was hoping you might be able to offer some insight on a problem I am having.

I have a Sony VPL-VW70 projector. Generally speaking it works great. I am having an issue with my Roku 3 though. For all my sources the display is fine, full 1080p no problem. However with the Roku 3, when it is set to output 1080p the projector displays what looks like a 4/3 standard def picture. Switching the Roku to 720pand it works fine. All other sources 1080p is fine. Its just 1080p on the Roku somehow gets wrecked.

Any thoughts?

Edit: the 1080p from the Roku works fine when connected to my HDTV.

emocrat fucked around with this message at 05:54 on Jan 1, 2015

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emocrat
Feb 28, 2007
Sidewalk Technology
Any of you projector gurus have any insight on basic calibration? I really have no idea what I am doing with this and if you have advice or links to even basic guides about the principles involved I would appreciate it. I spent some time last night messing with settings and I was constantly flip-floping on what I thought looked good. I am not really up for paying hundreds for a pro, and I don't need perfect, but some basics for a balanced viewing experience would be awesome.

emocrat
Feb 28, 2007
Sidewalk Technology
Thanks for the input guys. "Dicking around with settings" is exactly what I have been doing. I don't really care about it matching an abstract value of perfect, more that I would get it somewhere and be like, that looks great! and the scene would change and then I would be like, nope its blown out. Or too dark or whatever. Basically I dont really know the relationships between the various settings, so I don't have an understanding of what will happen in a differently lit scene when i adjust something.

I will check AVS and see about a getting a disc. Thanks.

emocrat
Feb 28, 2007
Sidewalk Technology

King Hotpants posted:

It's less about hitting "an abstract value of perfect" and more about preventing the thing you're talking about. We use test patterns and meters to calibrate displays because our eyes think different settings look good in different scenes. But then the scene changes and suddenly it all looks like crap.

I used to have a friend who insisted he could calibrate color just using his eyes. And yes, he could make a scene look really good, until the next scene came on or we switched movies or whatever. My favorite incident was when he calibrated everything by watching Casino Royale on Blu-ray, then wondered why every other movie looked sort of pink. Turns out the Blu-ray of that movie has a heavy green bias, so he was boosting the poo poo out of magenta.

I'll try to write up a basic overview of what the different settings do and add it to the OP. It seems like it would help.

That would be super helpful. Thanks.

emocrat
Feb 28, 2007
Sidewalk Technology
Hi thread, looking for some opinion on my current projector. I am selling my house, which has a theater, it is a distinct possibility that an offer would stipulate leaving the projector. So I am curios how it compares to what I can buy today.

I have a Sony VPL-VW70
http://www.projectorcentral.com/Sony-VPL-VW70.htm

Retailed for like 7k but I got this for a little over a 1k new in box. It was not one of the B level units that was on closeout at av forums.

It has been great for me and I love it, but if I have to unload it, what should I expect to pay for something as good today? Will I be getting better for less? Any idea of comparable new projectors?

emocrat
Feb 28, 2007
Sidewalk Technology
Hi thread, I am looking for some recommendations on a screen. Here is my situation:

I have a Sony VPLVW70 Projector. I recently moved to a new house and I am replacing my old screen, which was a low end elite screens motorized one.

The room this is in has a window but it will be blocked off. I will say I have a 97% light controlled room. The room is just over 20 feet deep. I am thinking a screen size of 120 is about what I want. Because of other uses of the room, I am committed to using some form of motorized screen.

So, I understand that tab tensioned is probably what I want, any specific recommendations? I have seen some that include 2 actual screens, one for 16x9 and one for 2.35:1, are those reasonable solutions, or do they have other drawbacks? Finally, any recommendations on screen color/gain? My last screen I was elite screens "maxwhite 1.1 gain" and I did not like it, seemed to bright too me.

I do not have have a set budget for this, but I am willing to spend what I need to to get something quality. Probably not super top of the line, but I will consider any suggestion.

emocrat
Feb 28, 2007
Sidewalk Technology

King Hotpants posted:

Re: light control -- are your walls/ceiling white? If they are, fix that. Fabric is best. Matte paint in a dark neutral color is better than nothing.

Tab tensioned is what you want if you're set on retractable. The big boys don't do the two-screen thing, they use masking. Stewart makes retractable screens with masking and I'm sure most of the other major manufacturers (Draper, Da-Lite, Screen Innovations) do too.

What size was your last screen? If you're going bigger this time, you'll need higher gain to keep the same image brightness. If you give me that info I can make a better recommendation.

So, in my old space the ceiling was flat black and the walls were a mid level red. I think one of my problems was that the walls, despite being a darker color, had a more shiny finish and reflected a decent bit of light.

Looking at the Stewart link, are there particular advantages to a vertical masking system vs horizontal? Horizontal seems more advantageous. It seems as though my limiting factor will be width, so I should maximize that, and then mask the height. But Maybe I am missing something there.

My last screen was only 92 inches diagonal.

This time around, I have a bigger space and I am planning on a 120 inch screen. I have not decided on how I will do the walls and ceiling yet, but I will definitely keep the cloth suggestion in mind.

emocrat
Feb 28, 2007
Sidewalk Technology

King Hotpants posted:


Vertical masking is better for most people, but not everyone. Most people are height-limited before they are width-limited. Also, you use vertical masking for constant image height (CIH), and CIH is how the vast majority of anamorphic lenses are designed to work. For your situation, it sounds like horizontal masking would be better.

Thanks, good to know.

King Hotpants posted:

Re: screen size and brightness. You mentioned that your 1.1 gain screen was too bright, but it was also only 92" diagonal. A 92" diagonal 16:9 screen is about 3,600 square inches. Moving up to a 120" screen brings area to 6,195 square inches -- quite a bit larger. The Sony VW70 was what, 800 lumens? A 1.1 gain screen sounds about right given that brightness and screen size. You'd be getting 32 fL from the 92" screen and 18 fL from the 120" screen -- so it's not surprising that you thought it was too bright, because it was way too bright.

Wow, OK, that makes a ton of sense, but it totally never occurred to me. Is there a guideline for how many FL I should be looking at (if my size etc changes as this starts)? Also, do you have a particular recommendation for screen material? For Stewart , I guess the Firehawk is the 1.1 material, any specific recomendations?

Thanks for your help.

emocrat
Feb 28, 2007
Sidewalk Technology
I don't know the answer to your questions, but I think you should probably ask it in the wiring thread in DIY:

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3090739

Several electricians in there, lots of good resources.

emocrat
Feb 28, 2007
Sidewalk Technology
Looking for some recommendations or general suggestions here.

I have a large outdoor screened in porch and I want to set up a screen and projector for summer movie watching. I think I am good on screen and sound, but I am not sure about the projector. The location is completely protected from rain. The area is roofed and only open on 2 sides, and the place where it would be mounted it is very protected.

So, on the one hand, I could just get a smallish projector and then take it inside when I am not using it. But that's kinda pain in the rear end to have to reset it and zoom the screen etc every time. So, are there any outdoor rated projectors that are built to withstand moisture? Any suggestions are fine. The actual quality of the projector isn't a huge deal, its for screwing around outside, I have a light controlled theater inside. Happy to take any suggestions or experience from people having done something similar.

emocrat
Feb 28, 2007
Sidewalk Technology

Ixian posted:

There are some PJs meant more for outside use but I don't think any of them are rated to be kept outside all the time. You'd probably need to build a box or something if you wanted to go that route, similar to what folks to for DYI outdoor TVs (you can find a ton of info online on that topic).

Cool, Ill look into that.

Ixian posted:

However don't overestimate how complicated it will be to move the PJ in and out and dial it in each time. In those cases manual focus/zoom may actually be easier to deal with. BenQ and Acer make good models that also have easy connections for outdoor speakers, etc.

Are you using a blow up outdoor screen with this?

Hmm, got any particular recommendations for easy to dial in projectors? I don't specifically need speaker support, I think I will be setting up some low cost but permanently wired gear for a simple surround sound and source control. As long as it can put out a decent 1080p picture I am fine, don't need anything too special for it.

I will be using some fairly cheap pull down projector. Luckily the space is set up in a manor that makes permanent installation pretty easy. I want outdoor speakers for music anyway, so why not include this stuff? Should be fun.

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emocrat
Feb 28, 2007
Sidewalk Technology

Ok Comboomer posted:

I knew a guy who had a projector and also a 4k TV on a wheeled stand that he would use interchangeably depending on situation/mood (this is a few years back when projectors were "bad for gaming" or whatever). Anybody here do that?

I guess the way he saw it, the projector was a "sometimes, not always" device and the TV could be more convenient to use (it had its own onboard speakers, for example, instead of relying on the HT system), but it seemed kind of nitpicky to the point of extravagance for me.

At my old home i had a tv on the wall and a motorized projection screen that came down in front of it. It wasn't gaming or anything just dont always want the huge screen and low lights if your just watching dumb tv or something. I am actually right now in the middle of renovating my current basement and will have a fixed frame projection screen but with a tv mounted on the side wall, with a swing arm type mount so that it tucks away to the side when not in use but can be pulled out in front of the same seating when i want it.

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