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Moist von Lipwig
Oct 28, 2006

by FactsAreUseless
Tortured By Flan

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jony ive aces
Jun 14, 2012

designer of the lomarf car


Buglord

prefect
Sep 11, 2001

No one, Woodhouse.
No one.




Dead Man’s Band

A Wheezy Steampunk posted:

same except hard G

the creator of PNG says it's pronounced "ping" lol

in my head, i pronounce it "pung". in real life i say "pee enn jee"

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

jony ive aces posted:

also grats crapple on finally supporting a format from 10 years ago in your cutting edge browser

duTrieux.
Oct 9, 2003

Doc Block posted:

APNG and WEBM
Sitting in a tree
A tree called O-B-S-C-URITY

Workaday Wizard
Oct 23, 2009

by Pragmatica
why is webm popular? and why do you want it builtin in the web browser?

isnt video 1) annoying 2) resource heavy 3) attack vector of a billion free-xxx viruses?

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006
webm is popular because animes use it in their anime browsers.

Egan Yardley
Jun 11, 2010

WebM is a video container that is royalty-free and usable in browsers via HTML5 <video> tag. VP8 is an incredible video compression format, and VP9 is even better. WebM works with an audio track or without.

basically webm is the loving tits and its the future, hth

poty
Jun 21, 2008

虹はどこで終わるのですか? あなたの魂の中で、または地平線で?
its made by google so you know its full of spyware and tracks the poo poo out of you

poty
Jun 21, 2008

虹はどこで終わるのですか? あなたの魂の中で、または地平線で?

PleasureKevin posted:

the format has been declared dead due to the lack of official adoption. Firefox provided support for APNG

poty fucked around with this message at 19:22 on Sep 29, 2014

Kirk
Sep 22, 2003
yo does apng do transparency and does webm also do that

dragon enthusiast
Jan 1, 2010
vp8 is poo poo

Egan Yardley
Jun 11, 2010

yeah both webm/vp8 and apng support alpha channel, but for tiny little animated images webm is overkill

Sharktopus
Aug 9, 2006

https://wiki.mozilla.org/APNG_Specification

some stupid spec posted:

`num_frames` indicates the total number of frames in the animation. This must equal the number of `fcTL` chunks. 0 is not a valid value. 1 is a valid value for a single-frame APNG. If this value does not equal the actual number of frames it should be treated as an error.

nooooooooooooooooo

guess i can still just set a cap on # frames and stream them anyway if the playback happens during loading

Moist von Lipwig
Oct 28, 2006

by FactsAreUseless
Tortured By Flan
apng is bad

dragon enthusiast
Jan 1, 2010

Egan Yardley posted:

yeah both webm/vp8 and apng support alpha channel, but for tiny little animated images webm is overkill

it's smaller than gif in terms of filesize for animations like video clips so that's p cool I guess

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
what so the same file in apng and gif would be bigger in apng


waht the poo poo

Egan Yardley
Jun 11, 2010

dragon enthusiast posted:

it's smaller than gif in terms of filesize for animations like video clips so that's p cool I guess

yeah, i've seen webms with 20 minutes of 720p with audio at less than 50mb

i've seen 3 minute silent webm shorts at less than 2mb

the quality/file size ratio is webm's biggest asset

A Wheezy Steampunk
Jul 16, 2006

High School Grads Eligible!

Egan Yardley posted:

yeah, i've seen webms with 20 minutes of 720p with audio at less than 50mb

i've seen 3 minute silent webm shorts at less than 2mb

the quality/file size ratio is webm's biggest asset

much like your posting!!!

Widdiful
Oct 10, 2012

poty posted:

its made by google so you know its full of spyware and tracks the poo poo out of you

i hope not because i saw a video of a guy sucking a giant dick and then loving said dick

big scary monsters
Sep 2, 2011

-~Skullwave~-
apple ping

Workaday Wizard
Oct 23, 2009

by Pragmatica

Widdiful posted:

i hope not because i saw a video of a guy sucking a giant dick and then loving said dick

GameCube
Nov 21, 2006

finally the tek-9s tag will play properly on iphone

GameCube
Nov 21, 2006

that tag is almost as old as the iphone itself

A Wheezy Steampunk
Jul 16, 2006

High School Grads Eligible!

Werthog 95 posted:

that tag is almost as old as the iphone itself

also it was the last time anyone cared about gang tags

jony ive aces
Jun 14, 2012

designer of the lomarf car


Buglord

echinopsis posted:

what so the same file in apng and gif would be bigger in apng


waht the poo poo
depends

a cool thing about apng is you can have 24 bit colour and 8 bit transparency, but if a apng is hosed down to just 8 bit colour like a gif then it has a chance of being a smaller file (it still might not though lol)

Kirk
Sep 22, 2003

why do ppl like this bad show

jony ive aces
Jun 14, 2012

designer of the lomarf car


Buglord
why do ppl like this bad file format

Asymmetric POSTer
Aug 17, 2005

PleasureKevin posted:

rest in piss goddamn idiot fucker

Asymmetric POSTer
Aug 17, 2005

APNGs own and the sooner everything supports it the sooner image threads can be a million times better

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

jony ive aces posted:

depends

a cool thing about apng is you can have 24 bit colour and 8 bit transparency, but if a apng is hosed down to just 8 bit colour like a gif then it has a chance of being a smaller file (it still might not though lol)

apart from a small extra amount of overhead this implies that apng uses WORSE compression than gif


what

jony ive aces
Jun 14, 2012

designer of the lomarf car


Buglord
idk based off comparison of 8-bit static images png is usually better most of the time but not quite always, but it depends on your data and also not using piss software for idiots!!

Bloody
Mar 3, 2013

yeah but zjeifs look like garbage from a butt

Bloody
Mar 3, 2013

WOULD YOU LIKE SOME DITHERING, M'LADY

Doc Block
Apr 15, 2003
Fun Shoe
an 8-bit APNG will have the same dithering issues. it only goes away if you go to 24-bit APNGs, but then there goes your file size.

Moist von Lipwig
Oct 28, 2006

by FactsAreUseless
Tortured By Flan
where's my 16 bit image format

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006

Egan Yardley posted:

WebM is a video container that is royalty-free and usable in browsers via HTML5 <video> tag. VP8 is an incredible video compression format, and VP9 is even better. WebM works with an audio track or without.

basically webm is the loving tits and its the future, hth

webm is a lovely container, vp8 is garbage, and vp9 will be trash too.

mp4 and h264 and later h265 would be the way to go if you want to use the video tag

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006

mishaq posted:

APNGs own and the sooner everything supports it the sooner image threads can be a million times better
lmao upgrade your browser

Mathhole
Jun 2, 2011

rot in hell, wonderbread.

PleasureKevin posted:

get the hell on my snap chat:

pleasure_kevin

i sent you a dickpic

i'm mathhole

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EMILY BLUNTS
Jan 1, 2005

gif itself is garbage and nothing will change that but at least everything supports it so enjoy, it's just "good enough" to last until forever

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