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precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
One major problem with goths, and I know/have known way more goths than anyone ever should probably, is that in my experience they won't listen to music that clearly sounds like it shares the goth aesthetic but isn't a band that literally looks/labels themselves as "goth".

My two go-to examples, these are songs that I have never met a goth who even knew what they were, despite both bands being fairly well-known among certain circles:

Black Heart Procession: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuLB-LOut7w

(Some of) Labradford: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-Sh90Po1bA

I mean, there are dozens, maybe hundreds more bands I could name that goths "should" like but that they just don't because they aren't either 30 years old or belong to a specific visual or perceived aesthetic. It's relatively maddening.

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precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
Yeah, Clan of Xymox was extremely good. Some dudes I went to high school with called Cut Rate Box did a great remix of one of their songs, it's on some compilation on Spotify. They made it quite a bit more industrial than goth, though.

Re: Dead Can Dance, I agree their newest stuff isn't their best, but I would be highly suspect of anyone who couldn't find something to like on their excellent live album Toward the Within. Spiritchaser was actually a very good album too, not sure why it went over like a wet fart with their hardcore fans.

I mean, check this poo poo out:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLblOSaUmWU

I did a "Goth Primer" for the NMD Genre Thread a while ago, it's far from complete but I think it's an alright playlist:

http://open.spotify.com/user/1242610333/playlist/0i5D75NLgqDYEIFBtLdjQv

e: The Legendary Pink Dots are hands down the best "we're not a goth band but all our fans are goths" band ever. They have around 50 or 60 albums going back to 1980 and very, very little of them are bad. Their recent stuff has gotten kind of tame, but albums like Crushed Velvet Apocalypse, The Maria Dimension, Hallway of the Gods, The Whispering Wall, From Here You'll Watch the World Go By... totally gold.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwU27t2DHcw they do folky hippie stuff

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wE1mSJTO1yE they do creepy noise stuff

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2W7ICfDB7tE they do epic psychedlic rock jams

precision fucked around with this message at 20:25 on Oct 12, 2014

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
I just want to put this out there: Love and Rockets are better than Bauhaus ever was.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bo3R3LBjDek

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UB4WA4XRisU

Much less recognizably "goth" than Bauhaus was, granted.

precision fucked around with this message at 20:54 on Oct 13, 2014

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

Gorgar posted:

Speaking of Pink Dots side projects: I like some of the Silverman solo stuff, and the Niels Van Hoorn album (though that's not much like LPD). Tear Garden also good.

I have never heard of this before. :stare:

I've seen the Pink Dots three times, '97 and '98 (these shows were two of the best shows I've ever seen any band do, ever), and then on the 25th Anniversary Tour (which was strangely underwhelming and low-key). Niels was always the best part of the show apart from Ka-Spel, always wearing some kind of ridiculous flashy outfit and chatting with the fans before the show.

At the anniversary show (at the tiny Earl in Atlanta) at one point I yelled out for "Soft Toy", a song I had no reasonable assumption they would play. I was right up front and Ed looked at me funny. I figured out why a few seconds later: it actually was the next song on their setlist, haha.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
"Coin Operated Boy" is probably the only song Amanda Palmer has ever done that I don't viciously hate. It also got played at every loving goth night I DJ'd in the mid 2000s.

Still pretty awful that Dresden Dolls would cover "Two-Headed Boy" and Palmer wouldn't even tell the audience it was a cover song. I know so many people who thought she wrote it.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
That's true, none of her stuff is what I'd call "goth" at all, despite her fans often being in there.

I'd say Voltaire is just as bad though. I hate that guy. So much.

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precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

Slaughterhouse-Ive posted:

Who else is like Dead Can Dance? I like them a lot but I feel like every group I've heard that's supposed to be similar is just straight up world music instead of being kinda between post-punk and world/neoclassical

You should check out In Gowan Ring.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z87ZnRqKkpw

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