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Binary Logic posted:I wonder if Saul would agree with Carrie's decision to call for a strike. I think he would agree. Especially when you consider that Saul's chance of survival in his situation has to be like 1% right now. (well, ignoring the fact that Saul is a main character in a TV show)
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I was telling some co-workers who don't watch that poo poo better start happening this season else I was gonna bail. Outside the fairly strong first episode, I've been pretty lukewarm towards the show this season. Last episode, pretty god-damned redeeming.
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MetalFace posted:I think he would agree. Especially when you consider that Saul's chance of survival in his situation has to be like 1% right now. (well, ignoring the fact that Saul is a main character in a TV show) Mandy Patinkin is known for having no qualms about leaving a show when it no longer appeals to him or even rubs him the wrong way (see: Criminal Minds, Dead like me and even Chicago Hope IIRC), so I wouldn't be too surprised him ditching the show after they wroteBrody out and the quality seemingly took a nosedive after that. But then again, maybe s4 will surprise us all with a strong second half.
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He'll live. He still has to whisper those words from the opening credits that I didn't recognize from previous seasons.
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Geno posted:S1 of Homeland was easily its best and don't think it'll ever come close to that. Of course it won't. The trick is to view this as a straight up spy show spin-off of the original bottled-lightning that was Season 1. And that's much easier now that Brody has finally gone.
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Hand of the King posted:Saul thought the two guys that went in after killed the ISI dude. When he saw only those two leave, he thought, "well, wtf happened. ISI dude dead?" Then, Saul went into investigate only to find out he got played. He could have just waited outside to let someone else discover the body so that 1. he could avoid a potential trap 2. he could avoid someone seeing him discovering the dead ISI dude and being arrested on suspicion of murder. There was nothing to gain by walking in himself. You'd think a veteran spy would be more careful.
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Nov 5, 2014 14:11
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Saul 100% would have said to take the shot. The more interesting question is, if Saul and Carrie's positions were reversed, would Saul have taken the shot and killed Carrie (I'm going to assume that Carrie would also approve of taking the shot in that scenario as well). And re: Saul getting kidnapped. Stupid move to not stay in the public area, but also impossible that he'd ever travel alone in Pakistan. Not only due to his former position but his employer would certainly insist on it for insurance reasons alone.
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Nov 5, 2014 15:47
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It's weird if you think about it, that Carrie was totally disregarded while being the station chief/whatever, and that quinn overrode her at the end.
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I have no idea what would realistically happen in this absolutely ludicrous situation, but it didn't seem like a stretch to me that nobody in that room wanted to be answerable for blowing up the former director of the CIA Edit: Carrie, meanwhile, was an accessory to - or at least complicit in - the murder of the vice loving president, so
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Space Hamlet posted:I have no idea what would realistically happen in this absolutely ludicrous situation, but it didn't seem like a stretch to me that nobody in that room wanted to be answerable for blowing up the former director of the CIA Exactly. Space Hamlet posted:Edit: Carrie, meanwhile, was an accessory to - or at least complicit in - the murder of the vice loving president, so This I don't recall? Complicit how?
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I don't see why everyone's making a huge deal about Saul being a former Director of Central Intelligence when he was really an interim director by virtue of the terrorist attack at Langley and not officially appointed. If their positions were switched Saul would totally ice Carrie. 
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MetalFace posted:Exactly. Brody facilitated Nazir's plan to kill him in order to save Carrie. Carrie, then, kept the secret. I believe she also urged Brody to go through with it while she was still held captive. It's a bit of a gray area for sure but I don't think she comes out of that completely clear of wrongdoing.
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mcbexx posted:Mandy Patinkin is known for having no qualms about leaving a show when it no longer appeals to him or even rubs him the wrong way (see: Criminal Minds, Dead like me and even Chicago Hope IIRC), so I wouldn't be too surprised him ditching the show after they wroteBrody out and the quality seemingly took a nosedive after that. The quality took a nosedive in season 2, the current season has been the best one since the first. It's much easier to swallow the limited capabilities of the cia/us embassy when it involves agents that aren't supposed to be in pakistan, than taliban ninja-squads smack dab in the middle of the US. ditty bout my clitty fucked around with this message at 14:23 on Nov 6, 2014 |
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redreader posted:It's weird if you think about it, that Carrie was totally disregarded while being the station chief/whatever, and that quinn overrode her at the end. Sort of a Caine Mutiny situation. Expect there should be some fallout once this reaches her bosses. Maybe Quinn and Redmond will argue she's unfit to remain in charge...OTOH Lockhart (the new CIA director) might agree with her that they should have fired even if meant blowing up Saul.
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Binary Logic posted:Sort of a Caine Mutiny situation. The second half of the season is just Carrie aggressively accusing people of stealing stawberries from the embassy cafeteria.
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I just saw the preview for tomorrow's episode. It looks so drat good! I'm glad it was Saul that got captured and not some mook. The poo poo they are doing and probably going to do wouldn't make any sense unless it was someone at Saul's level and background.
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CalvinandHobbes posted:Everyone should definitely check out Hatufim (Prisoners of War) the Israeli show homeland is very loosely based on. Although Hatufim is less 24esque need to save the country (well the first season anyway) and more aftermath and reintegration after being abducted. Yeah I've been watching that recently. First season was awesome and I'm half way through the second.
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I am off my meds or did they get someone who looked liked Brody when he was hung?
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Whoever did the sound mixing for this episode deserves an Emmy. That was a fantastic episode. I had multiple heart attacks when Damien Lewis showed up.
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Man, they are loving with her HARD. And, with me as well because I was totally mindfucked.
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Great episode tonight. It really made you felt like you have schizophrenia as well. That whole thing with Brody was the greatest mind gently caress of all time, you wanted to believe he was real but then logic says it can't be this way, then your mind is saying this show just jumped the shark and it will sucks from this point on, but wait, it's not real! It' can't be! Holy poo poo. I enjoyed Saul's debate with a terrorist. They are both the good guys and the bad guys, they are both right and wrong. Good stuff. Also, fundamentalist muslim porn.
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The CIA is aware of her condition, right? Even with meds on board it seems about as responsible as letting Michael J. Fox become a neurosurgeon.
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Hahha man Carrie is such an unlikeable protagonist that I'm amazed they found a way to amp up the crazy
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In a more sane show, the Brody fakeout would have been less believable and so less meaningful. In Homeland though, for a few moments I was utterly willing to believe they had actually done it.
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damnit, why did he have to be fake
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That was very good. I dreaded the idea of another season after S3 but this season has been borderline fantastic so far.
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Hingehead posted:
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My Friend said that episode 11 is only starting filming right now  The latest episode was loving great.
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I could watch Carrie tripping balls all day long. And I chuckled when Saul had to watch Hakami having sexy times with his wife, considering that Sons of Anarchy gave us this little gem earlier that week: 
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So when Carrie was trying to talk to Aayan's friend, and Quinn posing as a guard grabbed her, was that all her tripping out on drugs? It totally faked me out.
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You thought that was really Quinn? In what world would Carrie be able to kick his rear end
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Seeing Brody again really made me miss Season one even more. Their hosed up relationship is the heart and soul of the series and without him, it just takes a major nosedive. Carrie is too insufferable a character to carry it solely on her own.
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I really want the next episode to be Carrie killing tons of people by pointing her fingers at them and saying 'pew pew pew!'
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Mu Zeta posted:You thought that was really Quinn? In what world would Carrie be able to kick his rear end That's why I was so confused. But I thought it was believable because it's easier to bash someone's head into a table than safely restrain them.
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"Who's Brody?" As if someone senior enough to sit in on what's basically a cabinet level meeting wouldn't know the name of the American terrorist that was publicly executed in the next country over, eighteen months ago.
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EricBauman posted:"Who's Brody?" that was linked to Carrie on a national manhunt post the explosion that killed 80 or so intelligence workers.
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Well played Homeland. It knows it's made enough questionable decisions for people to believe that they just might actually bring Brody back. Hell of a scene.
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This loving show won me back and then this poo poo happened. God damnit  e: Oh my god nevermind. :iamafag: the show came back
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Okay, first let me say I really liked this episode, everyone is basically mind-loving everyone else in some way. And Saul's got balls for speaking to Haqqani the way he did at the dinner table. BUT... that was some very high level 4th dimensional chess going on. 1. Get the ambassador's husband to switch Mathison's meds with some type of psychotic so that 2. She will become unstable and start tripping and then instead of seeking medical help or just sleeping it off she will 3.leave the embassy compound, trying to find Aayan's girlfriend and 4. eventually the 'bad' Pakistan intelligence agents will spot her on the street and they can grab her and 5. take her to Aasar Khan's home. Maybe they do this all the time and know how to make the old Rx drug switcheroo achieve this result but it seemed to me that a lot had to go their way for their plan to work. Binary Logic fucked around with this message at 02:47 on Nov 11, 2014 |
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