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Hav
Dec 11, 2009

Fun Shoe

Bloody Hedgehog posted:

Word on this. I think the first revelation when playing a flight sim with Track-IR comes when you realize that instead of getting in turning fights and following a little red blip at the edge of the screen indicating the enemies direction., you can simply look over and visually watch the enemy as you slew your plane around to bring them into sights.

It makes very complex compound rollovers extremely easy, but that brings with it the risk of flat spins and other comical things like the wings falling off. I'm n'thing the 'couldn't do without my expensive tracking peripheral now'.

Also, the Cobra III has excellent above canopy visibility in E:D, making the full speed swoops around stations all the better, although it looks less cool when you plow into the back of a Lakon.

Is the multiplayer on BoS just a free for all, or have we organised at all?

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Ralith
Jan 12, 2011

I see a ship in the harbor
I can and shall obey
But if it wasn't for your misfortune
I'd be a heavenly person today
Until dedicated servers and the mission editor are out, we're limited to the options the public servers give us. Some have fairly elaborate scripted PVP missions, others just have dogfights. Even then it's still fun to play as a group and coordinate, though.

Rocksicles
Oct 19, 2012

by Nyc_Tattoo
What's the cheapest price at the moment?

Thief
Jan 28, 2011

:420::420::420::420::420::420::420::420::420::420::420:
Is there a plan for an eventual co-op campaign in BoS? It would be really fun, from fighters to multiple players hopping in a single bomber.




One of my favorite things from Rise of Flight was that when you start a single player campagin career thingie, you could make a profile for your pilot and join a squad. There you would follow the squad on day to day missions that varied and I am guessing that they were all based on actual historical records because spergy things like weather and recon missions would pop up depending on where you were.

In that squad, you could see supposed real life pilots and then you could also see other players that just so happened to choose your group (there are a lot) and what their personal stats are. It was an interesting way to connect players that don't play online. It's not really any different than a high score table but the way it was presented was interesting for a games like this.

Teeter posted:

Thief, you always post the best videos here but then again I am heavily biased because Aesop is my favorite artist and he's been in like four of yours.

:ninja::respek::pilot:

Finally got around to reinstalling some proper video editing software so I'll probably be spamming the plane threads with videos in glorious 60fps.

ethanol
Jul 13, 2007



So I bought CoD. Something is really annoying me, I can't ever get landing clearance....it always says landing_denied.

Fender
Oct 9, 2000
Mechanical Bunny Rabbits!
Dinosaur Gum
Planes porn! Just single player though; I am still a scrub.

Was flying in my IL-2 w/Yak escort and came across 4 Stuka with some 109s escorting. Attacked and despite my lumbering plane and heavy bomb load, got 3 Stuka.
This was a lesson in how to use the rudder as those heavy rear end bombs really pulled my nose down in any sort of turn.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGwlRjDarEc

MrOnBicycle
Jan 18, 2008
Wait wat?
Finally had time to try this out after buying it on steam sales. Still have to fine tune opentrack and all the controls, but I flew through the tutorial and did the first mission. Intercepted bombers, shot both down. On the way back I stumbled on a big fight and engaged the stukas that thought they were safely heading back. I really enjoy that "random encounters" bit of it all.

I'm pretty new to flight sims, so having any sort of campaign is nice. The game looks great as well.

Vahakyla
May 3, 2013
My BoS launcher is crashing. Goddamnit.

Sentinel
Jan 1, 2009

High Tech
Low Life


Is there any way to unlock modifications without completing the missions in that aircraft? I only ask because i want all of the He-111's for some added firepower when i decide to do a quick mission against them.
But god im awful at anything besides dive bombing.

However im proud to have every Yak-1 and il-2 skin and mod.. :ussr:

pthighs
Jun 21, 2013

Pillbug

Sentinel posted:

Is there any way to unlock modifications without completing the missions in that aircraft? I only ask because i want all of the He-111's for some added firepower when i decide to do a quick mission against them.
But god im awful at anything besides dive bombing.

However im proud to have every Yak-1 and il-2 skin and mod.. :ussr:

It's funny you ask! They just announced that unlocks will be removed (not counting skins) for Premium purchasers, or those who own both expansions planes. For a mere $30, that can be you!

Ralith
Jan 12, 2011

I see a ship in the harbor
I can and shall obey
But if it wasn't for your misfortune
I'd be a heavenly person today

777 Studios posted:

Owners of Premium accounts will be able activate all modifications without unlocking them in Campaign mode. You have a Premium account if you bought Premium edition, or Standard edition plus both additional planes: La-5 and Fw 190 A-3. Activating modifications cannot be reverted so you must make a considerate and thoughtful decision before you click the button. Note that this button doesn’t activate unlockable plane skins which remain obtainable through the Campaign.

What else is coming to BOS this spring? Of course, I’m talking about full mission editor and dedicated server software which will become available to every player. We’ve overcome some temporary difficulties, and now we’re working actively on the user version of FME. It should be ready this spring, in April or May 2015. And as the development goes, Loft and I will be sharing the most interesting details about it with you.

And now a few words about what is coming to BOS within the next few months. Keep in mind, that I’m about to tell just a part of current plan that the team is working at right now. I’m keeping some good news for the next announcement.

We are going to add 2 new versions of the Stalingrad map - summer and autumn maps, and also new campaign chapters telling the history of earlier phases of the Battle in the 3rd quarter of 2015. The maps will be available to all current and future owners of the game in all possible modes.

tl;dr: Mission editor and server coming in a few months, summer/fall versions of the main map and more campaign coming later.

In other news, a sequel entitled "Battle of Moscow" has been announced, which will include a new map and another ten planes, including the I-16 type 24. Presumably it'll be multiplayer-compatible. Looks like 777 is keeping their word about the business model for this franchise.

The Premium planes are on sale for 50% off until February 20th, and if you buy both you have the option to instantly get all the unlocks just like a Premium owner.

Ralith fucked around with this message at 19:09 on Feb 13, 2015

EvilJoven
Mar 18, 2005

NOBODY,IN THE HISTORY OF EVER, HAS ASKED OR CARED WHAT CANADA THINKS. YOU ARE NOT A COUNTRY. YOUR MONEY HAS THE QUEEN OF ENGLAND ON IT. IF YOU DIG AROUND IN YOUR BACKYARD, NATIVE SKELETONS WOULD EXPLODE OUT OF YOUR LAWN LIKE THE END OF POLTERGEIST. CANADA IS SO POLITE, EH?
Fun Shoe
Holy poo poo that's a long work for the editor and server. Glad you can skip the grind, though.

Snaxx
Apr 5, 2009
Version 1.009 was released today. Full notes here. Notable parts below.

Zak posted:

Dear pilots!

Today we’re updating the game to version 1.009. The change log was published in the previous dev blog last Friday, you can also find it below.
The most expected are numbers 55, 56 and 57, of course :)

55. Full mission editor added
56. Dedicated server added
57. Remote control console for the dedicated server added

Essobie
Jan 31, 2003

WHAT? THIS IS MY REGULAR SPEAKING VOICE.
Is this better?
Now all that needs to happen is this goes on sale with a fairly deep cut, and multiple goons in this thread confirm that now that dedicated servers are up that this is the definitive way to play WW2 fighting planes online with other goons. And then I'll jump in with both feet.

Racing sims and Elite have been treating me right over the last few months, but I may be done with Elite for good, and I'm down to maybe one race a week... so I could stand to use my nerdpit for something else.

EvilJoven
Mar 18, 2005

NOBODY,IN THE HISTORY OF EVER, HAS ASKED OR CARED WHAT CANADA THINKS. YOU ARE NOT A COUNTRY. YOUR MONEY HAS THE QUEEN OF ENGLAND ON IT. IF YOU DIG AROUND IN YOUR BACKYARD, NATIVE SKELETONS WOULD EXPLODE OUT OF YOUR LAWN LIKE THE END OF POLTERGEIST. CANADA IS SO POLITE, EH?
Fun Shoe
Maybe, just maybe, its time to revive IL2 goons.

Galdarion
Apr 13, 2014
Is it alot better than war thunder?

Fender
Oct 9, 2000
Mechanical Bunny Rabbits!
Dinosaur Gum

Galdarion posted:

Is it alot better than war thunder?

Imagine playing War Thunder sim, but good and you can actually spot planes.

Ralith
Jan 12, 2011

I see a ship in the harbor
I can and shall obey
But if it wasn't for your misfortune
I'd be a heavenly person today
The flight model doesn't suck, it's prettier, the planes are more accurate and detailed, the bulk of the content isn't locked away behind a grind you can host your own servers and make complex missions...

Really, all it's missing is player-controlled tanks, and they've actually demoed an (extremely basic) proof-of-concept of that a year or two ago. Doubt they'll invest resources in it, but you never know.

Teeter
Jul 21, 2005

Hey guys! I'm having a good time, what about you?

Fender posted:

Imagine playing War Thunder sim, but good and you can actually spot planes.

Exactly what I've been looking for. Buying this at the next sale

Snapshot
Oct 22, 2004

damnit Matt get in the boat

Fender posted:

Imagine playing War Thunder sim, but good and you can actually spot planes.

You can spot planes? Death from below is no longer a valid tactic?

EvilJoven
Mar 18, 2005

NOBODY,IN THE HISTORY OF EVER, HAS ASKED OR CARED WHAT CANADA THINKS. YOU ARE NOT A COUNTRY. YOUR MONEY HAS THE QUEEN OF ENGLAND ON IT. IF YOU DIG AROUND IN YOUR BACKYARD, NATIVE SKELETONS WOULD EXPLODE OUT OF YOUR LAWN LIKE THE END OF POLTERGEIST. CANADA IS SO POLITE, EH?
Fun Shoe
Hahaha if anything was going to wake you up it'd be the dedi for BoS coming out.

Death from below can still be a thing, sometimes, but to be honest, flying high and clean seems to have way more advantages. Ralith and I played a bit on full realism servers and I found this to be the case, at least.

Ralith
Jan 12, 2011

I see a ship in the harbor
I can and shall obey
But if it wasn't for your misfortune
I'd be a heavenly person today
Does anyone know what the scripting support in the mission editor is like?

Snapshot
Oct 22, 2004

damnit Matt get in the boat

EvilJoven posted:

Hahaha if anything was going to wake you up it'd be the dedi for BoS coming out.

Death from below can still be a thing, sometimes, but to be honest, flying high and clean seems to have way more advantages. Ralith and I played a bit on full realism servers and I found this to be the case, at least.

Give me a month, and I'll be in.

EvilJoven
Mar 18, 2005

NOBODY,IN THE HISTORY OF EVER, HAS ASKED OR CARED WHAT CANADA THINKS. YOU ARE NOT A COUNTRY. YOUR MONEY HAS THE QUEEN OF ENGLAND ON IT. IF YOU DIG AROUND IN YOUR BACKYARD, NATIVE SKELETONS WOULD EXPLODE OUT OF YOUR LAWN LIKE THE END OF POLTERGEIST. CANADA IS SO POLITE, EH?
Fun Shoe
Once the weather gets nice if you start spending your Sundays flight simming with us instead of riding that kick rear end bike of yours to Port Dover for fish & chips I'm personally coming back to beat some priorities in you.

And then get fish and chips.

Snapshot
Oct 22, 2004

damnit Matt get in the boat

EvilJoven posted:

Once the weather gets nice if you start spending your Sundays flight simming with us instead of riding that kick rear end bike of yours to Port Dover for fish & chips I'm personally coming back to beat some priorities in you.

And then get fish and chips.

That's certain Fridays usually. Come back anyways. I just need the time to source a good desk for gaming and maybe build a pc. How taxing is it on graphics? Think a GeForce 660m is going to chug?

Snapshot fucked around with this message at 01:08 on Feb 26, 2015

Dandywalken
Feb 11, 2014

Thief posted:


One of my favorite things from Rise of Flight was that when you start a single player campagin career thingie, you could make a profile for your pilot and join a squad. There you would follow the squad on day to day missions that varied and I am guessing that they were all based on actual historical records because spergy things like weather and recon missions would pop up depending on where you were.

Seaplane Co-op flights in RoF over the Channel with 3 buddies in there helping keep lookout were amazing. 2 hours of nothing, then chaos.

Well, either amazing or autistic, Im not sure which but gently caress it was nice to do exactly once and never again just to say you did.

Looking forward to Battle of Moscow for the Mc202. Idk why but I love Italian WWII aviation :shrug:

EvilJoven
Mar 18, 2005

NOBODY,IN THE HISTORY OF EVER, HAS ASKED OR CARED WHAT CANADA THINKS. YOU ARE NOT A COUNTRY. YOUR MONEY HAS THE QUEEN OF ENGLAND ON IT. IF YOU DIG AROUND IN YOUR BACKYARD, NATIVE SKELETONS WOULD EXPLODE OUT OF YOUR LAWN LIKE THE END OF POLTERGEIST. CANADA IS SO POLITE, EH?
Fun Shoe
Nah that'll be fine.

Galaga Galaxian
Apr 23, 2009

What a childish tactic!
Don't you think you should put more thought into your battleplan?!


Dandywalken posted:

Looking forward to Battle of Moscow for the Mc202. Idk why but I love Italian WWII aviation :shrug:

Wait, did they announce they're doing the Mc 202?

pixelbaron
Mar 18, 2009

~ Notice me, Shempai! ~

Ralith posted:

Does anyone know what the scripting support in the mission editor is like?

I imagine it's pretty robust considering it's exactly like RoF's editor, which unfortunately means it's a nightmare to make a custom mission compared to 1946.

Dandywalken
Feb 11, 2014

Galaga Galaxian posted:

Wait, did they announce they're doing the Mc 202?

Yes sir, and P-40E. Both premiums I think.

Galaga Galaxian
Apr 23, 2009

What a childish tactic!
Don't you think you should put more thought into your battleplan?!


And a Lend-Lease P-40? Very nice. Not that I have the game. yet

Ralith
Jan 12, 2011

I see a ship in the harbor
I can and shall obey
But if it wasn't for your misfortune
I'd be a heavenly person today

Galaga Galaxian posted:

Wait, did they announce they're doing the Mc 202?
Battle of Moscow plane list:

I-16s :allears:

pixelbaron posted:

I imagine it's pretty robust considering it's exactly like RoF's editor, which unfortunately means it's a nightmare to make a custom mission compared to 1946.
I mean, do they have a real scripting language? Some in-house abortion of one? Or an ungainly mess of hacked-together automation you can only set up through the mission editor GUI?

Dandywalken
Feb 11, 2014

Galaga Galaxian posted:

Not that I have the game. yet

Exact same here :P

Will wait for a good sale, once I see how the mission editor etc has worked out. Maybe we'll see a Dynamic campaign ala Pat Wilson's Campaign generator from RoF?

pixelbaron
Mar 18, 2009

~ Notice me, Shempai! ~

Ralith posted:

I mean, do they have a real scripting language? Some in-house abortion of one? Or an ungainly mess of hacked-together automation you can only set up through the mission editor GUI?

I think it's the last one but I never got too deep into it because my eyes glaze over any time I try and do something in it.

You gotta like attach triggers and poo poo to nodes and planes and blah blah blah it's complex.

Ralith
Jan 12, 2011

I see a ship in the harbor
I can and shall obey
But if it wasn't for your misfortune
I'd be a heavenly person today

pixelbaron posted:

I think it's the last one but I never got too deep into it because my eyes glaze over any time I try and do something in it.

You gotta like attach triggers and poo poo to nodes and planes and blah blah blah it's complex.

Well, there go my hopes of setting up awesome gimmicky custom gamemodes. :negative:
Why do flightsim devs have to be so russian?

Rocksicles
Oct 19, 2012

by Nyc_Tattoo

Dandywalken posted:

Yes sir, and P-40E. Both premiums I think.

SOLD! P-40 is my very very favourite plane.

This was my il2 squad personal plane. Skinned by me.

Vahakyla
May 3, 2013
We flew some with Shanakin and Burno. Mostly time was spent on navigation.

Essobie
Jan 31, 2003

WHAT? THIS IS MY REGULAR SPEAKING VOICE.
Is this better?

Dandywalken posted:

Exact same here :P

Will wait for a good sale, once I see how the mission editor etc has worked out. Maybe we'll see a Dynamic campaign ala Pat Wilson's Campaign generator from RoF?

Week long deal on Steam has this at 50% off. I might just pick this up before the 8th.

How's the single player campaign?

Snaxx
Apr 5, 2009

Essobie posted:

Week long deal on Steam has this at 50% off. I might just pick this up before the 8th.

How's the single player campaign?

An instant mission generator that shows a few cut scenes after you reach a defined number of wins. The sky feels alive, yet the missions are sterile.

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Essobie
Jan 31, 2003

WHAT? THIS IS MY REGULAR SPEAKING VOICE.
Is this better?
Thanks. I picked it up regardless in the hopes that my Sim Goon Friends will start up some poo poo occasionally now that dedicated servers are a thing. I need to spend time getting my controls in order first, of course.

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