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Captain Baal
Oct 22, 2010




Type-Moon is a Japanese game company founded by Kinoko Nasu and Takashi Takeuchi. Mostly known for their visual novels based around more magic shenanigans than Harry effin' Potter, they have amassed a global fanbase because of the general unique ideas they present while also being completely loving insane. It's a blend of genres such as horror, action, romance, and supernatural that will either work or fall flat on its face in the most hilarious of ways. They were originally a Japanese indie company until 2004 where they made the transition to an actual organization with money. So what have they made?



Kara No Kyokai, a light novel series released only at Comikets in 1998 and 99 originally finally made its way to nation-wide publication in 2004 thanks to Kodansha with a final volume in 2007. The story follows the heiress of the Ryogi clan, Shiki Ryogi as she goes about her life dealing with the paranormal, being a body for her Detective Boss, Toko Aozaki, being an amnesiac, and understanding her identity with the help of Mikiya Kokuto. I feel weird starting with this because Kara No Kyokai is the only one of Type-Moon's big three properties I've never seen beyond crossovers, but I suppose I will have to do a new writeup later. Anyways, currently there exists 3 light novels and they have been adapted into 8 different movies and an OVA all handled by Ufotable. I believe they are recommended for those who want to see KNK instead of reading the light novels, but maybe someone could clarify.



Tsukihime, Type-Moon's first visual novel released for Windows at Comiket in December 2000. It follows the story of Shiki Tohno, some high school kid with the ability to see the Death in people in the form of lines, points, and other shapes. He lives in a sturdy manor with his sister Akiha, and the two twin maids who manage to keep the house together, Hisui and Kohaku. However he lived separated from the manor up until recent due to an accident he had eight years prior to the story. When their father died and Akiha became the head of the Tohno household, she called Shiki back to Misaki. The plot diverges depending on the choices the player makes into one of two different routes.

Near-Side, where Shiki meets Arcueid Brunestud, a vampire woman who awakens a certain murderous rage in Shiki that leads him to slice her into 17 pieces. She comes back the next day to confront him and instead of getting revenge, makes him her partner. As a vampire, Arcueid is targeted by many people: another old vampire who used to be her lover, Roa, a man whose body is made of 666 beasts, Nrvnqsr Chaos (Please for the love of god just call him Chaos), and even one of Shiki's classmates who is actually an agent of the Church, Ciel. The Near-Side route follows the stories of both Arcueid and Ciel with two separate endings for both heroines.

Far-Side, where Shiki holds in his desire to kill and never meets Arcueid or discovers Ciel. Instead this route focuses on the Tohno family and the mystery behind the household that Shiki lived in as a child. The far-side route follows the stories of Akiha, Hisui and Kohaku and also has two separate endings for every heroine except Kohaku has one.

There is a currently existing English-Translation patch online for Tsukihime with an All-Ages patch as well. There is a remake of sorts in the works that will update the visuals and sounds, include the discarded route of Satsuki Yumizuka, another classmate of Shiki's who gets turned into a vampire, and redesigns for the characters. It is unknown if it will be voiced or even when it comes out. It's been in development for a while, so no one knows. There is also a bad anime adaptation from 2003, an okay manga adaptation from 2003 that ended in 2010, and a sequel in Kagetsu Tohya that I know nothing about and someone else can talk about if they want.



Fate/Stay Night, Type-Moon's first commercial release and their most successful property to date released on Windows in 2004. Fate follows the story of two characters, Shiro Emiya and Rin Tohsaka. Shiro is a high-school boy with aspirations of becoming the hero his father spoke so highly of. When not at school he spends his time cleaning the Emiya Estate and practicing kendo. Rin goes to the same high-school as Shiro, but she lives with different aspirations and social standing, being seen as the peak of perfection at school and she's also a budding master magus. Both end up entering the Holy Grail War, a city-wide battle held by Magus that summon servants. Servants are heroic spirits of legend and the magus who summon them are their masters. Masters and their servants must defeat the others to obtain the Holy Grail and receive their one true wish. The story of Fate/Stay Night is split into three different routes:

Fate, where Shiro takes a progressive fight through the war with his servant, Saber. Having injured Rin's servant, Archer, Rin basically ends up being a third member of the team who has to teach Shiro the ropes and help him understand what the hell is happening. Throughout this Shiro meets many master and servant duos who seek to kill him such as Ilyasviel von Einzbern and Berserker, or are familiar faces from his everyday life such as Shinji Mato and Soichiro Kuzuki. As the war progresses, Shiro and Saber form an unbreakable bond and come to meet an old enemy of Saber's past. This route focuses heavily on Saber, what it means to be a hero, and Shiro's ideals of heroism and how they clash with Saber's own past.

Unlimited Blade Works, where Shiro uses a command seal to stop Saber from attacking Archer. Thanks to this, Archer takes a more active role in the war and his influence shows more on Rin and shiro. Their attacks on servants are planned more in advance, his clashing ideals with Shiro are much more apparent, and his origin becomes a major factor in Shiro's changes as well leading to a major battling of philosophies and wills. As the war moves on, Shinji becomes more involved to the point where he is lent a servant strong enough to destroy Ilya's Berserker. This servant goes on to take matters into his own hands and leads to the final showdown with Saber, Rin, Archer, and Shiro. This route focuses heavily on Rin and Archer, the ramifications of Shiro's ideal of heroism, what ultimately comes of it, and how the support of friends and loved ones can lead one's ideals from destructive to hopeful.

Heaven's Feel, where Shiro involves himself more in his classmate and friend, Sakura Mato's, personal life. This leads to Sakura taking a more active part in Shiro's life and thanks to that, Rin's life as well. This leads to many explanations about the origin of the Grail, the War, Magus', and Servants coming to light. The history of the three great families: Mato, Tohsaka, and Einzbern are all given a thorough look through their histories. Multiple servants are killed early into the war, Ilya is forced to retreat from the war as soon as it starts, and the overseer, Kirei Kotomine takes a more active role in the war as well leading to one final battle of clashing philosophies. This route focuses heavily on Sakura, Ilya, and Rider, the general history of FSN's background, giving up ideals for the sake of protecting those you care for, and the true form of evil.

There is also a currently existing English patch for every version of Fate that is on PC. There is also a Realta Nua version which adds CGs, music, and voice-acting to it and makes it available for all ages and a Vita version of that version as well. There's a really bad anime adaptation of the Fate route from 2006 by Studio Deen and a movie adaptation by the same studio for Unlimited Blade Works which is also bad. There is a manga adaptation that went from 2006 to 2012, I have no idea of the quality other than it blends elements from all of the routes together and that some of it was licensed for English-release until Tokyopop died. As of now, Ufotable is airing their anime series adaptation of Unlimited Blade Works, with the thread here. They are also planning to adapt Heaven's Feel into a movie, but who knows if it's just one or multiple movies.



Fate/Hollow Ataraxia is a sequel to Stay Night released for Windows in 2005. It introduces a new class in the form of Avenger and his master, Bazett Fraga McRemitz has a whole new series of events happens that revolve around them. For the most part though, the game is a very silly sequel that's just about the character chilling out and having fun in their day to day lives. When the plot rears its head it's still pretty fun, it's not the battle of philosophies that Stay Night is, it's just a game meant for fans to see all the characters they like some more. There's a Vita version scheduled for release on November 27 of this year that includes full voice acting among other enhancements. The fan translation was FINALLY finished five years after the original one started, so if you want to give it a swing, there it is.

Fate/Zero is a prequel light novel series to Stay Night written by Gen Urobuchi in 2007. It follows the tale of Kiritsugu Emiya: a mercenary for hire, renowned Magus Killer, and the future adoptive father of Shiro Emiya. He's been recently hired by the Einzbern Family to win the Fourth Holy Grail War. Having summoned the servant Saber as his partner for the War: he, his wife, Irisviel von Einzbern, and his mistress, Maiya Hisau they head to Japan to begin the fight. Over the course of the war, Kiritsugu studies many of the masters and servants to fight them in different ways as his ideals clash with Saber's own to the point where Saber is barely ever with her master. The story is general Urobuchi fare; the characters suffer constantly, multiple people die horribly, the morality and understanding of what is happening comes into question multiple times and in the end no one is happy. There is an anime adaptation of Fate/Zero done by Ufotable and all of it is available in America too for ridiculous Aniplex prices, of course.

Fate/Extra is a spin-off PSP turn-based RPG released in 2011. It tells a whole new story of a high-school student who gets dragged into a Holy Grail War in a virtual world known as the Moon Cell. Hundreds of competitors are chosen in the Holy Grail War with their own assigned partners. The Holy Grail War in this game is handled in a very formulaic manner unlike the rest of Fate. There are stages you go through, you try to figure out the identity of the opponent servant you're scheduled to fight next, and then you fight them. Depending on if you figured out their identity or not you will get certain benefits in your fight with them. Combat is handled in RPS style. Each move you make has an immediate strength and weakness of another attack and opponents move in a specific sequence with certain moves blocked to help figure out what the sequence is. The game features characters from other Type-Moon games very heavily so going into it without having seen Fate, Tsukihime, or Kara No Kyokai is not the best thing, but you will hardly be lost since it's standalone and those characters are more cameos than anything else. You get a choice of three different servants: Saber (Red), Archer (Fate), and Caster who is a completely new design and a male or female protagonist.

Extra got another game which functions as a secondary route to the first game. Fate/Extra CCC released in 2013 features new costumes for all of the returning playable servants and a new playable servant in the form of the King of Heroes, GILGAMESH. The story this time follows the Holy Grail War on the Far Side of the Moon Cell where a rogue computer program known as BB, pulls competitors of the Holy Grail War into her own Labyrinth to fight for their lives. The new story involves a new character and shedding more light on the state of the real world and what exactly is happening outside of the Moon Cell along with new characters, masters, and servants to fight. It also features really terrible character designs that are gross.

There's even more Other Fate Stuff beyond those. Fate/Unlimited Codes is a fighting game published by Capcom and developed by Eighting for the PS2, PSP, and arcades. It's pretty fun, but it's got the nickname Unlimited Combos for a reason. Fate/Tiger Coliseum is a 3D fighting game that puts all of the characters into a chibi style and is generally very goofy. There is Fate/Protoype which was the original novel that Nasu wrote in high school that would change a lot and end up becoming Stay Night and was adapted into a twelve minute anime. Fate/Strange Fake which tells of a poorly copied Third Grail War. There's even a crossover game of the Type-Moon games called, Battle Moon Wars, released in four separate episodes that is a fan game akin to Super Robot Wars, but with multiple characters from the various Type-Moon series.



Melty Blood is a fighting game sequel to Tsukihime released in 2002 co-developed by French-Bread and Type-Moon for Windows. Melty Blood started as a serious sequel to Tsukihime which follows Sion Eltnam Atlasia. Sion is an Alchemist of the Atlas Academy and she is assigned to Misaki Town where she meets Shiki Tohno who is investigating the Vampire Murders that have been occurring in the town once again. Throughout the investigation they come across enemies of the past that a mysterious force known as the Night of Wallachia who Sion has history with. The games had about 7 different versions between them all before French-Bread was finished with Melty Blood for good.

-Melty Blood: The original game with the first storyline released in 2002. Had sixteen playable characters, eight of them being unlockable. (Shiki, Arcueid, Ciel, Akiha, Hisui, Kohaku, Hisui & Kohaku, Sion, Miyako Arima, Mech-Hisui Nrvnqsr Chaos, Nanaya, R-Arcueid, C-Akiha, V-Sion and Wallachia)
-Re-ACT: Released in 2004. Introduced an arcade mode, updated movelists for copy characters, and two more characters. (Len & Satsuki)
-Re-ACT Final Tuned: Patch that upgraded Re-ACT to resemble the upcoming Arcade version of the game. New control scheme, multi-button commands, interface adjustments, and palette swaps.
-Act Cadenza: The first arcade and console port of Melty Blood released in 2006. Removed the story mode, added new sprites, and four new characters, two of which are hidden. (Aoko Aozaki, Kouma Kishima, Neco-Arc, and Neco-Arc Chaos)
-Act Cadenza Version B: Updated of Act Cadenza later made into a PC port released in 2007. Controls tweaked to be more context sensitive, tag-team and 4-player mode added, a training option, character rebalancing, a hidden storyline for Neco-Arc Chaos, and White Len as a playable character.
-Actress Again: Released in 2008 for arcades and 2009 for PS2. Added new mechanic styles (Crecent/Half/Full Moon) and moves, guard meter, and 7 new characters. (Riesbyfe Stridberg, Michael Roa Valdamjong, Shiki Ryogi, Sailor Uniform Akiha, Mech Hisui & Kohaku, ArcheType Earth, and Mech Hisui & Neco-Arc)
-Actress Again Current Code: An updated arcade port and later PC port released in 2011. Not many changes were made to this version, just changing to a different arcade machine and new visual effects. A later version does make a non-broken version of ArcheType Earth and adds Executioner Ciel as a playable character. The PC version also has netplay too.

Melty Blood's story advances with every game, but not with anything like the story of the first game. Actress Again is the first version that has specific arcade endings for characters that conclude the Melty Blood story, otherwise at some point it was liked as a fighting game more than a piece of Type-Moon's stuff. It's a lot of fun and the Actress Again PC version is the best version of the game out there with a sizable roster and solid gameplay mechanics. If you want to know of anything else French-Bread has done since then, look for Under Night In-Birth which even includes Sion.



Carnival Phantasm is an OVA series based on the Take-Moon manga to celebrate Type-Moon's tenth anniversary. It is the most inside joke comedy series and it is amazing. Filled to the brim with every character in the series up to goofy loving shenanigans, gag scenes, and an amazing opening sequence. Also, there are too many gifs... SOME WOULD EVEN SAY UNLIMITED.



Watch it, for real.

Anyways, that's pretty much it. Let's talk to our hearts content about all of this insanely nerdy poo poo we like to indulge in and post more awesome/silly poo poo from it. This is for ALL of Type-Moon so feel free to discuss anything unless it's straight up an entirely new property..



DECEMBER 2015 AND THERE IS A THING THAT NEEDS ADDING



FATE/GRAND ORDER is a phone game developed by Delight Works and published by Type-Moon. It's not a very good game and it's not very fun either, but it has a shitton of cool servants and they are improving upon the game as they go along and everyone is addicted to it because we want the cool servants, so let's talk about this loving game that has eaten the thread. Fate/Grand Order is like every other phone game you've ever seen. You have a stamina system that determines how much of the game you can play, there is a recharge time to get you more stamina, and you can pay $$$ to feed your addiction some more. What makes this one sort of different is its own kinda of RPG with deeper mechanics and by deeper mechanics I mean there is a card system because that is also something. Party's are set to a max of 6 with one slot reserved for a friend support that you pick from a list of friends or on a list of other random players from around the world actively playing and use their servant. Once you get into actual combat it basically boils down to a standard turn-based RPG system. Each of your servants has five cards that are scrambled between 15 cards and the selects five of those 15 cards at random for your hand and then you pick three of those cards to perform actions with.

The cards are Quick (Earn you critical stars), Arts (Earns you NP), and Buster (Does shittons of damage). Getting three of one type of card multiples the effect and the effect of a card does more depending where it is in the lineup. For instance, say Quick is your first card and arts is your last, you will receive less critical stars if Quick is your first compared to if it was your last and vice-versa for the arts. Also if all three of your cards are one servant's then you get a bonus card to do an extra attack with, so there is some strategy in this role-playing game. But, you're not here to talk about the loving combat because no one cares about that, they want SERVANNTS


Okay so, before I get to the cool stuff, let's get this bad stuff out of the way. The game divvies up rarity of cards through a star ranking system, 1 being the lowest and 5 the highest. There are servants and craft essences, the former being the playable characters in the game and the later essentially being equip cards. The way you get both is through a gatcha and there are two of them. You have the regular gatcha which is used through Quartzes, the game's standard currency. You gain Quartzes at first by doing story missions, but you can get them as part of a daily reward for logging into the game once a day and also doing any timed events going on. 4 Quartzes can get you a regular roll, but 40 get you a 10 Roll which not only gives you 10 pulls, but also guarantees you at least a 4-Star pull, it can be either though so remember to curb your enthusiasm. You can also get rolls with summoning tickets, but those are for single rolls and you only get those through special means, but they are now consistently a part of Mana Prisms it seems. You get those through doing daily challenges and also can get them from daily rewards. The other gatcha is the friendship gatcha, friendship points are obtained through making friends with the randos you use for support and then using their supports when they show up. You need 200 FP for a single pull and 2000 for a 10. The friendship gatcha works similarly to the quartz one, but it doesn't guarantee you anything other than 10 pulls and all of them can only get to 3-Stars at the highest and give you exp items and low ranking ascension and skill materials on top of that. Needless to say the friendship gatcha is how you will be making the majority of your team when starting out unless you luck the gently caress out.

NOW FOR THE THINGS YOU CAME TO SEE, SERVANTS. The game has many servants: some are cool, some are bad, most are bad, but some you recognize, some are hot anime babes, some are hot anime dudes, some are Mephistopheles. There's a great variety and they are here to either piss you off or get you to spend great loads of dosh on the possibility of pulling them, you will not, but good luck

DO NOT READ ANY FURTHER IF YOU DO NOT WANT SERVANT IDENTITY SPOILERS FOR OTHER STUFF BUT YOU SHOULD NOT BE READING THIS THREAD IF THAT IS THE CASE

Here are the servants as of 4/12/2016

Saber
Artoria Pendragon (5-Star)
Artoria Pendragon/Alter (4-Star) (Fuyuki must be completed before you can pull her)
Artoria Pendragon/Lily (4-Star) (Only obtainable through a Pre-registration Code and the "Saber Wars" Event, now unavailable)
Nero Claudius (4-Star) (Septem must be completed before you can pull her)
Siegfriend (4-Star)
Gaius Julius Caesar (3-Star)
Attila (5-Star)
Gilles De Rais (3-Star)
Le Chevalier d'Eon (4-Star)
Okita Souji (5-Star) (Only obtainable from the Gatcha during the "Guda Guda Honnoji" Event, now unavailable)
Fergus Mac Roch (3-Star)
Mordred (5-Star)
Nero Claudius/Bride (5-Star) ("Valentine's Day 2016" Event Only, now unavailable)
Shiki Ryogi (5-Star) ("Kara No Kyokai" Event Only, now unavailable)
Rama (4-Star)


Archer
EMIYA (4-Star)
Gilgamesh (5-Star) (Only obtainable from the Gatcha during the 3M Download Campaign, now unavailable)
Robin Hood (3-Star)
Atalanta (4-Star)
Euryale (3-Star)
Arash (1-Star) (You will be seeing this motherfucker a lot in your friendship gatcha)
Orion (5-Star)
David (3-Star) (Reward for clearing Okeanos)
Nobunaga Oda (4-Star) (Only obtainable during the "Guda Guda Honnoji" Event, now unavailable)
Nikola Tesla (5-Star) (London must be completed before you can pull him)
Arjuna (5-Star)
Kid Gil (3-Star)
Billy the Kid (3-Star)

Lancer
Cu Chulainn (3-Star)
Elizabeth Bathory (4-Star)
Musashibo Benkei (2-Star)
Cu Chulainn/Prototype (3-Star)
Leonidas (2-Star) (MADA MADA)
Romulus (3-Star)
Hector (3-Star)
Scathach (5-Star) (Only obtainable during the "Scathach Campaign" Event, now unavailable)
Diarmuid Ua Duibhne (3-Star)
Artoria Pendragon/Alter (4-Star) (London must be completed before you can pull her)
Karna (5-star)
Fionn Mac Cumhaill (4-Star)
Brynhildr (5-Star) ("5M Download Campaign" Only, now unobtainable)
Li Shuwen (4-Star) (America must be completed before you can pull him)

Rider
Medusa (3-Star)
Saint George (2-Star)
Edward Teach (2-Star)
Boudica (3-Star) (Reward for clearing Septem)
Ushiwakamaru (3-Star)
Alexander (3-Star)
Marie Antoinette (4-Star)
Saint Martha (4-Star)
Francis Drake (5-Star)
Anne Bonny & Mary Read (4-Star)
Artoria Pendragon/Santa Alter (4-Star) (Only obtainable during "Christmas" Event, now unavailable)
Astolfo (4-Star)
Queen Medb (5-Star) (America must be completed before you can pull her)


Caster
Medea (3-Star)
Gilles De Rais (3-Star) (Orleans has to be completed before you can pull him)
Hans Christian Andersen (2-Star)
William Shakespeare (2-Star)
Mephistopheles (3-Star)
Mozart (1-Star)
Zhuge Liang/Waver Velvet (5-Star)
Cu Chulainn (3-Star) (Reward for clearing Fuyuki)
Elizabeth Bathory/Halloween (4-Star) (Only obtainable from the "Halloween" Event, now unavailable)
Tamamo no Mae (5-Star)
Medea/Lily (4-Star) (Okeanos has to be completed before you can pull her)
Nursery Rhyme (4-Star)
Paracelsus von Hohenheim (3-Star)
Charles Babbage (3-Star)
Solomon (5-Star) (Enemy Only)
Helena Blavatsky (4-Star)
Thomas Edison (4-Star) (America must be completed before you can pull him)
Geronimo (3-Star) (Reward for clearing America)
Leonardo Da Vinci (???) (???????)

Assassin
Kojiro Sasaki (1-Star) (THE SAVIOR OF FRANCE)
Cursed Arm Hassan (2-Star)
Stheno (4-Star)
Jing Ke (3-Star)
Charles-Henri Sanson (2-Star)
Phantom of the Opera (2-Star)
Mata Hari (1-Star) (You will see a ridiculous amount of this loving servant)
Carmilla (4-Star)
Jack the Ripper (5-Star)
Henry Jekyll & Hyde (3-Star) (Reward for clearing London)
Mysterious Heroine X (5-Star) ("Saber Wars" Event only, now unobtainable)
Shiki Ryogi (4-Star) ("Kara No Kyokai" Event only, now unobtainable)

Berserker
Heracles (4-Star)
Lancelot (4-star)
Lu Bu (3-Star)
Spartacus (1-Star)
Sakata Kintoki (5-Star) (Only obtainable through the "4M Downloads" Campaign, now unavailable)
Vlad III (5-Star)
Asterios (1-Star)
Caligula (2-Star)
Darius III (3-Star)
Kiyohime (3-Star) (Reward for clearing Orleans)
Eric Bloodaxe (2-Star)
Tamamo Cat (4-Star)
Frankenstein (4-Star)
Beowulf (4-Star)
Florence Nightingale (5-Star)
Cu Chulainn/Alter (5-Star) (America must be completed before you can pull him)

Shielder
Matthew Kyrielite (3-Star) (Starting Servant)

Ruler
Jeanne d'Arc (5-Star) (Can be pulled from starting servant pull)
Jeanne d'Arc/Alter (4-Star) (Enemy Only)
Shiro Amakusa (5-Star) ("Chaldea Boys" Event only, now unobtainable)

Avenger
Edmond Dantes (5-Star) ("Prison Tower" Event only, now unobtainable)
Jeanne d'Arc/Alter (5-Star) (""Da Vinci" Event only)

Servant Weaknesses are as follows

A triangle between Saber, Lancer, & Archer (Saber beats Lancer, Lancer beats Archer, Archer beats Saber)

A triangle between Rider, Caster, & Assassin (Rider beats Caster, Caster beats Assassin, & Assassin beats Rider)

Rulers have resistance to everything, but don't beat anything with the exception to Berserker on both counts and also lose to Avengers

Avengers beat Rulers, but have no resistance or weakness to anything except Berserkers

Berserkers beat everything and lose to everything

There is one Shielder and she beats and loses to berserkers, but otherwise it's not a very noteworthy class

Servants have a level cap depending on their ranking. 1 caps at 60, 2 at 70, 3 at 70, 4 at 80, and 5 at 90, same for CEs. Every servant has four stages and they change as they progress through their stages, the number of stages is indicated with stars below their current level, and in order to get them to their next stage, they have to be ascended. Ascension is what occurs when your hero hits the max level they can for the moment and then to increase the level cap must give materials to ascend to higher levels, CEs fall under this rule as well but for them you just have to feed the CE the same CE as itself and it will ascend. There are other servants we know of that are coming like Artoria Alter Lancer, Assassin Emiya, Semiramis, Caster Gil, and so on, but it's a huge rear end list and the game is being updated consistently. The game also has a story that is being translated and being put out piece by piece and it is written by Nasu so it is actually probably a cool story. Either way, njoi the game or not i don't know here are some resources.

http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info/index.php
http://fategrandorder.wikia.com/wiki/Fate/Grand_Order_Wikia

So, don't like FGO because you're sick of rolling for servants you want, but will never realistically get? Still want all of the cool servants from FGO, but without the annoying loving grind that is the game? Well I've got a thing for you!



Fate/Extella is an upcoming PS4 and Vita game being developed by Marvelous and written by Nasu and Hikaru Sakurai. It is a Warriors styled game where you will play as a servant mowing down armies of enemies. The game is confirmed to take place within the world of Extra and Extra CCC and stars two of the servants from those games, Nero Claudius and Tamamo no Mae. This game however has been confirmed to also be using Fate/Grand Order content as well and the first character we've seen from it is, Altera. There will more than likely be more characters to be added from here, but the game is only about 60 Percent complete according to interviews and Arco Wada returns as the game's main artist. There is still much to see from this game and we don't know if it'll actually be good or bad, but we've got one trailer so far and it's not very good quality.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6--jMYi5eus

Okay go ahead, cool.

Captain Baal fucked around with this message at 10:59 on Apr 12, 2016

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Silver2195
Apr 4, 2012


What made Zorak change his mind about allowing this thread?

Also, you forgot Plus-Disk and Fate/Apocrypha. I'll probably write up summaries for them, along with Kagetsu Tohya, tomorrow. (Spoilers: Kagetsu Tohya is bad except for some of the side stories, Plus-Disk is entirely bad, Apocrypha is surprisingly good.)

Silver2195 fucked around with this message at 22:44 on Oct 11, 2014

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005



Clapping Larry

Repeat after me, everyone: Réalta Nua is canon, Réalta Nua is canon, Réalta Nua is canon. Learn it, breathe it, live it, and just loving deal with it already.

Silver2195 posted:

What made Zorak change his mind about allowing this thread?
If one's thread has to be closed 5 days of the week in between episodes something probably needs to change.

GodFish
Oct 10, 2012

We're your first, last, and only line of defense. We live in secret. We exist in shadow.

And we dress in black.


Wait the translation patch for HA finally finished?

Captain Baal
Oct 22, 2010


Silver2195 posted:

What made Zorak change his mind about allowing this thread?

ME, for reals though I asked him and he was like "Sure, cool, just don't be a creep and it's fine." Anyways, I didn't really think the Fan-Disk for Tsukihime added anything important, but I've never actually read it so I have no god drat clue. If anyone wants to do write ups for poo poo I didn't cover go ahead and I'll them to the OP.

GodFish posted:

Wait the translation patch for HA finally finished?

Yes

Compendium
Jun 18, 2013

M-E-J-E-D


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Anyways, currently there exists 3 light novels and they have been adapted into 8 different movies and an OVA all handled by Ufotable. I believe they are recommended for those who want to see KNK instead of reading the light novels, but maybe someone could clarify.

I have read the KnK novels! They've been translated and if you Google, you can find them. That being said I would personally say that the translation quality fluctuates from being adequate to sounding like someone gave up halfway through and resorted to weird gangster talk. The movies are a very good (almost too faithful) adaption of the stories, sticking to those weird narrative jumps and leaps and perspective changes that the books did. So I'd say just watch those instead! There are only a few minor details that have been changed, but overall ufotable did a good job sticking to the source material.

Also, everyone watch Carnival Phantasm.

Compendium fucked around with this message at 22:55 on Oct 11, 2014

Phobophilia
Apr 26, 2008
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There's something missing from the OP and my heart, and I can't quite tell what it is!

FiftySeven
Jan 1, 2006


I WON THE BETTING POOL ON TESSAS THIRD STUPID VOTE AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS HALF-ASSED TITLE





Slippery Tilde

BER-SER-CAR!


I wish they would do a decent adaptation of Tsukihime, I always thought that Shiki had potential to be really a interesting character but the first adaptation of it... I wish they hadn't bothered.

FiftySeven fucked around with this message at 23:12 on Oct 11, 2014

ACES CURE PLANES
Oct 21, 2010




Another Type-Moon work of note would be Notes (or Angel Notes), which I believe was Nasu's earliest work, and everything since has had various degrees of inspiration drawn from it. Things like the Type-[planet] (which is where the name Type-Moon came from), conceptual weapons, and important thematic elements like the strength and weakness of ordinary humans versus things far beyond their depth.

I think there's a translation floating around half-finished, but I never had a chance to read the whole thing sadly.

Budget Prefuse
Sep 26, 2011



you forgot to mention Witch on the Holy Night which is a type-moon game i think? i've never seen anyone talk about it and i have no idea if it's translated or not but yeah.

Beef Waifu posted:

Anyways, I didn't really think the Fan-Disk for Tsukihime added anything important, but I've never actually read it so I have no god drat clue. If anyone wants to do write ups for poo poo I didn't cover go ahead and I'll them to the OP.
the only thing of note on the fan-disc is some unimportant story about a serial killer impersonating shiki. that's literally it.


i'm eagerly awaiting the tsukihime remake which will probably end up spawning a (good) anime adaptation. it's been like 6 years since they announced it though? wonder why it's taking so long

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005



Clapping Larry

Budget Cop posted:

i'm eagerly awaiting the tsukihime remake which will probably end up spawning a (good) anime adaptation. it's been like 6 years since they announced it though? wonder why it's taking so long
There was like a 2+ year wait in between when Mahoyo was first announced and when it was released. T-M is barely better than Valve about these sorts of things.

icantfindaname
Jul 1, 2008




I thought the VN thread was banned forever

Compendium
Jun 18, 2013

M-E-J-E-D


icantfindaname posted:

I thought the VN thread was banned forever

To be fair, TM has only done five full length VNs and there's enough spin-off/adaption things to discuss at length.

Compendium fucked around with this message at 00:32 on Oct 12, 2014

Captain Baal
Oct 22, 2010


icantfindaname posted:

I thought the VN thread was banned forever

Rejoice, incantfindaname.

Wark Say
Feb 22, 2013

WELCOME TO THE DUNGEON




Can we discuss our favorite Taiga Dojos to our heart's content?

Captain Baal
Oct 22, 2010


Go right ahead

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005



Clapping Larry

Wark Say posted:



Can we discuss our favorite Taiga Dojos to our heart's content?
Identity crisis!

.Clash
Apr 10, 2009


FiftySeven posted:

I wish they would do a decent adaptation of Tsukihime,

The manga is pretty good!

BlitzBlast
Jul 30, 2011

some people just wanna watch the world burn

Tsukihime honestly isn't all that great, so it's no surprise the adaptions are bland. I'm hoping the remake changes that... when it comes out in twenty years.

I mean drat, it says something when even Carnival Phantasm couldn't do anything with it.

Compendium
Jun 18, 2013

M-E-J-E-D


Tsukihime manga is good, but I don't blame Carnival Phantasm for not being able to have a lot of material for it. Fate's cast is bigger and thus more hilarity to be had.

Talvos
Mar 21, 2005


Budget Cop posted:

the only thing of note on the fan-disc is some unimportant story about a serial killer impersonating shiki. that's literally it.

Even that's not important since it's all a dream. The only take away are that Ren becomes Shiki's familiar and Kouma Kishima exists in Melty Blood due to memories referenced in this story. Other than that, there are short stories (which are not part of the main game) that tell us about : the Nanaya family, Nanako, and Arcueid's history with Roa. The rest of the contents are either unimportant filler stories or non-canon comedy bits. There's also a few references to Tsukihime 2, but I think it's safe to assume anything mentioned that long ago may no longer be true if the game ever gets realized.

Also, what's with the Tsukihime remake? Every time I resign myself to forget about it, they re-announce it. At this point, it better be the most amazing thing ever.

BlitzBlast
Jul 30, 2011

some people just wanna watch the world burn

Wrong Tsukihime fandisc. PLUS-DISC's Alliance of Illusionary Eyes was actually pretty neat, though I really didn't need to know that Shiki's voice is apparently dripping with sex appeal.

KT had some neat concepts (the final fight in particular), but the vast majority of it fell flat. Much like Tsukihime!

Silver2195
Apr 4, 2012


Talvos posted:

Even that's not important since it's all a dream. The only take away are that Ren becomes Shiki's familiar and Kouma Kishima exists in Melty Blood due to memories referenced in this story. Other than that, there are short stories (which are not part of the main game) that tell us about : the Nanaya family, Nanako, and Arcueid's history with Roa. The rest of the contents are either unimportant filler stories or non-canon comedy bits. There's also a few references to Tsukihime 2, but I think it's safe to assume anything mentioned that long ago may no longer be true if the game ever gets realized.

Also, what's with the Tsukihime remake? Every time I resign myself to forget about it, they re-announce it. At this point, it better be the most amazing thing ever.

I think the fandisk Budget Cop was referring to is Plus-Disk, which is not a dream sequence. Plus-Disk has a fourth-wall-breaking segment where the Tsukihime characters talk about Tsukihime and reveal a couple mildly interesting background details, but the only actual story in Plus-Disk, Alliance of Illusionary Eyes, is rather pointless, serving mainly to introduce Akira Seo, a character who plays a minor role in Kagetsu Tohya and has no particular reason to exist.

Talvos's summary of Kagetsu Tohya is basically correct except that A Story for the Evening is also an important side story, since it explains what happened after one of the more ambiguous Tsukihime endings. I should also note that Tohno Family Con Game, one of the non-canon comedy stories, is quite good and is the only post-Tsukihime story that gets Kohaku's original characterization right. The main storyline of Kagetsu Tohya involves Shiki being trapped in a looping dream world, a concept that's executed better in Fate/Hollow Ataraxia.

Also, be sure to choose the option to turn off sexual content when playing Tsukihime and especially Kagetsu Tohya, because that poo poo is pretty gross.

Silver2195 fucked around with this message at 02:22 on Oct 12, 2014

Talvos
Mar 21, 2005


Oh... that's right. Crap, it's been so long that I barely remember anything that is not tied directly to the characters. The main thing I remember from all the post-Tsukihime content was using a nightmarish flow chart for Kagetsu Tohya.

Silver2195 posted:

Also, be sure to choose the option to turn off sexual content when playing Tsukihime and especially Kagetsu Tohya, because that poo poo is pretty gross.

Talvos fucked around with this message at 02:26 on Oct 12, 2014

Rody One Half
Feb 18, 2011



KT has Red Demon God, Drinking Dreaming Moon, and Tohno Family Con game. There is also some good side shenanigans going on in the main loop. If you liked Tsukihime and you liked Hollow Ataraxia, congrats, you'll like KT. Especially since it's full of Kohaku being rad.

Kohaku fan club represent

E: you will need a guide for it though because programmingwise it's the same Onscripter, held together with spit production that Tsukihime was only now it's also trying to be semi-open world.

BlitzBlast
Jul 30, 2011

some people just wanna watch the world burn

Kohaku is the best character and I am eternally sad she turned into an otaku mad scientist. Though I guess even that's better than what happened to Ciel.

More plots should feature the evil plan being ruined because the MC is such a nice guy the main villain starts to feel bad about the whole intricately planned revenge thing.

Silver2195
Apr 4, 2012


I just remembered that there's actually a bit more Tsukihime stuff that hasn't been mentioned: the short stories Tale, Talk, and Prelude. They're all decent, although Prelude, as the name implies, exists mainly to set up something that will probably never actually be written.

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005



Clapping Larry

BlitzBlast posted:

Though I guess even that's better than what happened to Ciel.

Rody One Half
Feb 18, 2011



There are worse fates for TM characters than to all ultimately join the eternal in-joke/gag character parade

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005



Clapping Larry

Found this while digging for that pic too; contains spoilers for pretty much everything, and may be kind of out of date at this point (no Mahoyo), but if you ever felt your life was incomplete without a character chart for the Nasuverse then I have you covered:

Rody One Half
Feb 18, 2011



To the people complaining there's not enough UBW specific stuff in the OP, there IS one bit in there I find pretty hilarious. Check out where Rider's chilling near the end!

Silver2195
Apr 4, 2012


Fate/Apocrypha, a light novel series by Yuuichiro Higashide, is the story of the Fourth Holy Grail War in a timeline where the Third War went differently. It was originally planned as a game and features Servants designed by several different Type-Moon employees. The translation is being done one bit at a time on the Beast's Lair forums. Apocrypha has a lot of crazy-sounding ideas: the Apocrypha Fourth War involves 15 (!) Servants, one of whom is a moeblobby female Frankenstein's Monster, and one of the Masters is named Kotomine Shirou. It also has some awful character designs. The result is surprisingly OK, however; Higashide manages to turn some of the rather throwaway ideas from the Fate/Complete Material writeups of Servants from the cancelled game (Siegfried not speaking, everything involving Frankenstein) into coherent characterization.

Fate/Kaleid Liner Prisma Ilya is a manga and anime about an alternate universe where Ilya from Fate/Stay Night is a magical girl. It's not very good, although some of the fight scenes are worth watching clips of.

Witch on the Holy Night/Mahou Tsukai no Yoru is the main thing left untranslated. It delves into the backstory of Aoko and Touko Aozaki, who appear in Tsukihime and Kara no Kyoukai, respectively. Aoko, Shiki Tohno's mentor, is a user of True Magic, while Touko, her sister and enemy, is a magus who uses puppets.

That's about everything covered. There's also a couple short stories, databooks, etc. that I've omitted, and some I've forgotten, but probably nothing too important.

Silver2195 fucked around with this message at 03:50 on Oct 12, 2014

Chalupa Picada
Jan 13, 2009



Prisma Ilya gave us an awesome new version of Emiya, so at least there's that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qq2f7DfFUv0

Blhue
Apr 22, 2008



Fallen Rib

Turns out this is a bad season for making me want to replay past VNs. Grisaia, Fate, and now Tsukihime. Though I guess that last one's not the season's fault really.

MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.




Silver2195 posted:

Fate/Apocrypha, a light novel series by Yuuichiro Higashide, is the story of the Fourth Holy Grail War in a timeline where the Third War went differently. It was originally planned as a game and features Servants designed by several different Type-Moon employees. The translation is being done one bit at a time on the Beast's Lair forums. Apocrypha has a lot of crazy-sounding ideas: the Apocrypha Fourth War involves 15 (!) Servants, one of whom is a moeblobby female Frankenstein's Monster, and one of the Masters is named Kotomine Shirou. It also has some awful character designs. The result is surprisingly OK, however; Higashide manages to turn some of the rather throwaway ideas from the Fate/Complete Material writeups of Servants from the cancelled game (Siegfried not speaking, everything involving Frankenstein) into coherent characterization.

Fate/Kaleid Liner Prisma Ilya is a manga and anime about an alternate universe where Ilya from Fate/Stay Night is a magical girl. It's not very good, although some of the fight scenes are worth watching clips of.

Witch on the Holy Night/Mahou Tsukai no Yoru is the main thing left untranslated. It delves into the backstory of Aoko and Touko Aozaki, who appear in Tsukihime and Kara no Kyoukai, respectively. Aoko, Shiki Tohno's mentor, is a user of True Magic, while Touko, her sister and enemy, is a magus who uses puppets.

That's about everything covered. There's also a couple short stories, databooks, etc. that I've omitted, and some I've forgotten, but probably nothing too important.

There was someone doing a translation of Mahoyo in French. S/He was up to chapter 7, IIRC.

Squallege
Jan 7, 2006

No greater good, no just cause



Grimey Drawer

The only reason I watched Tsukihime was to get the jokes in Carnival Phantasm. Carnival Phantasm is the best.

Paracelsus
Apr 5, 2009

bless this post ~kya


Squallege posted:

The only reason I watched Tsukihime was to get the jokes in Carnival Phantasm. Carnival Phantasm is the best.
It one of the few shows that always tempts me to watch the OP and ED each time I see it.

Dr. Video Games 0031
Jul 16, 2004



Blhue posted:

Turns out this is a bad season for making me want to replay past VNs. Grisaia, Fate, and now Tsukihime. Though I guess that last one's not the season's fault really.

I've convinced myself it's best to wait a million years for the remake before playing Tsukihime for the first time.

Wili
Apr 7, 2010

ppppbbbbtttthhhhhhttppp!


Silver2195 posted:

Fate/Kaleid Liner Prisma Ilya is a manga and anime about an alternate universe where Ilya from Fate/Stay Night is a magical girl. It's not very good, although some of the fight scenes are worth watching clips of.

Speaking of which, the second season had a pretty cool fight lasting its three last episodes (08, 09 and 10). So you may want to check them out if you liked first season's fights and/or want to watch Bazzet kick everyone's butts.

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