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Tsukihime honestly isn't all that great, so it's no surprise the adaptions are bland. I'm hoping the remake changes that... when it comes out in twenty years. I mean drat, it says something when even Carnival Phantasm couldn't do anything with it.
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Wrong Tsukihime fandisc. PLUS-DISC's Alliance of Illusionary Eyes was actually pretty neat, though I really didn't need to know that Shiki's voice is apparently dripping with sex appeal. KT had some neat concepts (the final fight in particular), but the vast majority of it fell flat. Much like Tsukihime!
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Oct 12, 2014 03:08
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Kohaku is the best character and I am eternally sad she turned into an otaku mad scientist. Though I guess even that's better than what happened to Ciel. More plots should feature the evil plan being ruined because the MC is such a nice guy the main villain starts to feel bad about the whole intricately planned revenge thing.
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Oct 12, 2014 03:35
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I just couldn't get into Shiki's mindset. As far as I can tell he's just kind of an rear end in a top hat with an extremely laid-back view on life? Thanks to the countless bouts of insanity, Shiki never gets the chance to form a consistent personality like Shirou. While this makes him less annoying to deal with at times, it also makes him incredibly boring. I mean it says something when he's at his most interesting when he's either going absolutely nuts or has cast away all other facets of his personality to kill the gently caress out of something.
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Oct 12, 2014 17:20
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Hey don't forget the midnight coffee run!
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Oct 12, 2014 18:14
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Yeah, HA had a lot of fun character scenes like that. It's probably the main reason I actually like Sakura.
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Oct 12, 2014 19:22
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I happen to be a fan of melodrama, so I liked HF's early days. 
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Oct 12, 2014 20:22
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If there is one thing I learned from the Fate/Zero thread, is that you can always count on somebody to look at a joke and think "hmph! this isn't  enough"
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Oct 12, 2014 21:58
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Shirou and Sakura have a hilarious perfect relationship; Shirou desperately wants to help other people, and Sakura desperately wants somebody to care about her. A shame that Sakura doesn't come to life as a character until HA. I guess imminent doom and insanity have a way of making a character boring.
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Oct 13, 2014 17:49
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I still don't understand how Mind of Steel would end in anything other than Berserker pasting Shirou the second he steps out of the church.
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Oct 13, 2014 18:40
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Actually, I guess it could also end in Rin getting cold feet and taking out Shirou to save Sakura. I'm sure Archer would be more than happy to do it.
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Oct 13, 2014 18:47
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Ilya literally calls you an idiot, and Taiga just goes "no comment".
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Oct 13, 2014 22:36
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You mean one of the endings in Kohaku's route? I think he's lost an arm and a leg in that one, he's probably just going to bleed out. Not that he cares at that point. EDIT: That ending is hilarious in the LP because Seorin links one of Nanaya's win quotes in MB... right before the actual Nanaya mode Shiki muses about how stupid it is to enjoy killing. BlitzBlast fucked around with this message at 23:16 on Oct 13, 2014 |
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Oct 13, 2014 23:12
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It's because she's boring. Her passiveness, self-loathing, and eventual insanity are justified, and in many ways match up with Shirou's own flaws, but they can get pretty tiring to deal with because that's essentially all she has to her. Saber has food, temporal shenanigans and cool fights while Rin has... pretty much everything about her to make them interesting.
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Oct 14, 2014 07:12
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Basically just go read F/HA, it fleshes out a lot of the characters. Sakura: the bane of door-to-door salesmen.
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Oct 14, 2014 09:53
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F/SN just never got to dip its feet into the Issei/Shirou/Shinji love triangle.
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Oct 14, 2014 10:07
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Shirou meets Zouken.
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Oct 14, 2014 13:47
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Caster never commanded him not to do that.  Archer exploits a loophole; he attacks Kuzuki, knowing full well that Caster would suicide herself to save him. BlitzBlast fucked around with this message at 22:48 on Oct 14, 2014 |
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Oct 14, 2014 22:44
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That was in HF though.
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Oct 15, 2014 03:44
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If Rin knew half of what was going on she's have busted Sakura out years ago.
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Oct 15, 2014 17:41
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Raenir Salazar posted:For me I started liking her the moment she kinda stood up and corrected Shirou in a forceful enough way to make him take a step back. In HA, Sakura's pretty much all about gently intimidating everyone she meets into submission. Zouken and Shinji practically live by her whim alone.  EDIT: Oh and she also talks about cooking a lot. It's like the one conversation both Shirou and her are most comfortable with, so they fall back on it whenever things get awkward. BlitzBlast fucked around with this message at 02:23 on Oct 16, 2014 |
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Oct 16, 2014 01:51
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Berserker's best NP is normally a bow.
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Oct 16, 2014 20:18
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The Nasuverse basically runs on there being a stringest series of rules that everyone important can break with impunity.
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Oct 16, 2014 20:35
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Are you calling HF True wish fulfillment in a game where UBW Good exists? Actually you best not be knocking HF True, it's quite literally the culmination of the entire VN. BlitzBlast fucked around with this message at 06:10 on Oct 17, 2014 |
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Oct 17, 2014 06:04
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Wait are you honestly telling me you prefer the ending that is the game calling you on learning absolutely nothing from the entire story and staying a selfish rear end in a top hat to the very end?  I'm going to hope my irony detectors are just broken because otherwise uhhhhh.
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Oct 17, 2014 06:14
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HF True is basically a massive parallel to the ending of the fourth war, with the significant difference being that Shirou chose to be human. So while Kiritsugu has to deal with a slowly dying body, Shirou has friends who can actually do something about his situation. He's still basically crippled for life and will probably never be able to fight seriously again (just like Kiritsugu!), but that's ultimately for the best.
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Oct 17, 2014 21:27
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Post HF, Shirou is in a brand new puppet body that is utterly reliant on Sakura to continue functioning. He can still use UBW because it his soul and that didn't change, but that doesn't mean he can fight effectively with it. Kiritsugu could still use magic after getting cursed too! He just couldn't do half the poo poo he used to.
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Oct 17, 2014 22:08
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I'd bash the terrible map design over the plot any day of the week. Although it was the game where I found out that I'd been playing SRW games completely wrong, so that's something.
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 EDIT:  archer I think you might have a complex about this If for some reason you haven't jumped on that HA translation, you really should. So fun. BlitzBlast fucked around with this message at 10:43 on Oct 18, 2014 |
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Oct 18, 2014 08:09
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Raenir Salazar posted:That's gotta be one of the best possible timelines, Rin and Shirou having Saber around while they kick the asses of rogue mages gotta be pretty easy with a Servant. Meanwhile Sakura loses both of the pillars of her life and spends the rest of her (arguably brief) life suffering. You're such a great sister Rin. 
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Oct 20, 2014 05:57
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I'd be curious if they even have a way to kill him. Not even getting exorcised was enough, that rear end in a top hat had to give up living to finally go down.
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Oct 20, 2014 15:08
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Nasu's straight up rewriting Tsukihime. He has been for a while now.
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Oct 21, 2014 00:28
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Well so far there's only been art of the heroines and Satsuki, so chances are pretty good.
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Oct 21, 2014 00:34
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HA has some of the servants go over their backstory, and Rider's in particular is basically maximum  . When Perseus used Kibisis to essentially invert time and space so Medusa would look at herself, her "nightmare" was seeing her two sisters bullying her. This was long, long after she murdered them herself in a crazed frenzy, and she was so shocked at seeing them alive and well again that she froze up long enough for Perseus to cut her head off.Ironically, this probably means Breaker Gorgon is the perfect anti Dark Sakura weapon.
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Oct 24, 2014 21:00
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RN's changes to HF kind of ruin a lot of things about Sakura's personality and motivations, but to be honest "was molested 24/7 for most of her life" is a pretty lovely backstory.
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Oct 28, 2014 05:38
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Xoidanor posted:I mean sure that sentence makes total sense within the context of the VN, not so much within the context of the anime. The very next line is "that's the way it should be." It makes perfect sense even in the anime, that screencap is just a joke that got really overblown.
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Oct 29, 2014 16:23
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"People die if they are killed... that's the way it should be." *Returns the magical artifact that has been keeping him alive* I'm sorry, but if you can't follow the reasoning in that it says more about you than the anime.
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Oct 29, 2014 17:04
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Last I checked the entire crew is in an alternate dimension to rescue Miya, and it turns out that Miya is basically alternate dimension Ilya. Her brother is alternate dimension Shirou, and he was imprisoned after trying to bust Miya out of her lovely life. Young Gilgamesh (I think) busted him out, and presumably he's off to try to save his sister again because it's not like rotting in a prison for a couple of months would make you weaker. Also that is not Ilya to the side of him, but her past self given form by absorbing the powers of the Archer class card, which conveniently mirror EMIYA's powers. No, really.
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Oct 29, 2014 17:47
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Fangz posted:also try and just blitz through as quickly as you can. Good luck doing that when there's like 50 enemies with way too much HP. Hollow Ataraxia finale. 
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I think you and I have very different definitions of "blitz through" if you're considering "the enemy phase lasts forever and a day" as falling under that. And man, let's not even talk about Zouken's underground slideshow.
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