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BlitzBlast
Jul 30, 2011

some people just wanna watch the world burn
Be sure to use an extra projection while you're on the Normal End run so you skip Kotomine vs Shirou. That's something you should really save to the end.

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BlitzBlast
Jul 30, 2011

some people just wanna watch the world burn

Clarste posted:

Oh, is that how it works? I must have done it by accident the first time through because that was an awesome surprise.

It also straight up doesn't happen if you don't have enough Ilya points (which also locks you into Normal), though good luck messing that up.

BlitzBlast
Jul 30, 2011

some people just wanna watch the world burn
Most mages aren't as specialized for killing things as Shirou though.

The whole point is basically moot anyways because every single mage seems to have their own specialties, and just like literally everything else in the Nasuverse how effective something is depends more on circumstances than some nebulous power level.

BlitzBlast
Jul 30, 2011

some people just wanna watch the world burn
Honestly the weirdest part about the whole Shirou thing to me is how much people reject the idea of a flawed protagonist who matures as the show goes on. It's like if you're not a Hollywood action movie star from the word go you're automatically a whiny brat. It's like that basically everywhere else too.

In other news, F/HA is still the best and should get an anime.

BlitzBlast
Jul 30, 2011

some people just wanna watch the world burn
I'm just waiting for Archer to start his monologuing so I can post his thesis on the merits of rescuing kittens from trees.

BlitzBlast
Jul 30, 2011

some people just wanna watch the world burn
Don't call me a hero, I just ruined this kitten's life.

BlitzBlast
Jul 30, 2011

some people just wanna watch the world burn

Silver2195 posted:

Pretty sure most of them don't, actually, aside from Caster and Kuzuki. There's also a reasonable chance that Shinji rapes Rider, because "rapist" is pretty much his defining character trait.

What is it like being the embodiment of no fun.

BlitzBlast
Jul 30, 2011

some people just wanna watch the world burn
I wonder if you're playing the same game as me then, because Sakura scenes are the best scenes.

It's cooking time. :fsn:

BlitzBlast
Jul 30, 2011

some people just wanna watch the world burn
The openings were cool, but honestly the originals were better. Not animation wise of course, but just as far as fitting into the story went.

Also not going to lie, I miss the two OPs being called hollow and ataraxia respectively. That was cute.

BlitzBlast
Jul 30, 2011

some people just wanna watch the world burn
The legendary pegasus was born from Medusa's headless corpse. :ssh:

BlitzBlast
Jul 30, 2011

some people just wanna watch the world burn
The dude basically devoted his life to trying to bang a girl, even when said girl got married and had two kids.

And he did say Shinji was "one of" the least!

BlitzBlast
Jul 30, 2011

some people just wanna watch the world burn
There are purposefully parallels drawn between HF Shirou and Zouken. They both started losing their memories over time, it's just that Shirou is insane and internalized who he was fighting for so hard it didn't matter that he lost his mind.

BlitzBlast
Jul 30, 2011

some people just wanna watch the world burn
Oh just you wait.

You've already seen part of it. :v:

BlitzBlast
Jul 30, 2011

some people just wanna watch the world burn
Yes, it's called the regular version. Most of the sex scenes are cordoned off to the Eclipse, and you can just close your eyes and skip through the one mandatory one if it bothers you that much.

EDIT: Honestly, "skip through the scenes with the characters you don't like" is probably the best way to enjoy HA.

BlitzBlast fucked around with this message at 07:21 on Dec 4, 2014

BlitzBlast
Jul 30, 2011

some people just wanna watch the world burn
Shirou walks in on Saber changing, and before he can leave Taiga shows up. Since Taiga + teenage shenanigans is a recipe for disaster, Saber hides in the closet. Taiga isn't fooled and throws it open, only to find Saber in her brilliant disguise. Both Saber and Shirou are hoping she'll ignore the armor. She doesn't.

No, she just assumes Saber's into cosplay, and drops the bomb that she's totally noticed Dark Sakura and Rider's crazy battle outfit. She figures it's a phase they're all going through. :allears:

BlitzBlast
Jul 30, 2011

some people just wanna watch the world burn
On a whim I decided to catch up on Prism Ilya and



Shirou is still the best character.

BlitzBlast
Jul 30, 2011

some people just wanna watch the world burn

Kubla Khan posted:

I can't think of a single time in anime/game a person of faith didn't out turn to be of the very bad (either corrupt of overly zealous) kind.

Nanoha?

Dragon Quest also consistently features Actually Heroic churches, and that's a huge title.

BlitzBlast
Jul 30, 2011

some people just wanna watch the world burn
Well I mean the church faction in Nanoha and all associated characters are Good People consistently doing Good Things because their patron saint was also a Good Person who did Good Things. Meanwhile even the military the main characters work for has its darker sides.

Not really sure what else you'd want.

BlitzBlast
Jul 30, 2011

some people just wanna watch the world burn
They're of the extremist "all non-humans must die and anything out of the ordinary is evil" kind, which kind of sucks when your cast is full of non-humans or wizards.

BlitzBlast
Jul 30, 2011

some people just wanna watch the world burn
"I'll be your superhero" is a great line in HF and I can't even imagine how silly it would sound otherwise.

At least it's not the even more literal "ally of justice" I guess?

BlitzBlast
Jul 30, 2011

some people just wanna watch the world burn

Rodyle posted:

I wrapped up the main game of Hollow this morning and am dealing with the last few bits for 100% completion (I think it's just eclipse scenes at this point, non of which I've looked at)

It's mostly porn. I think the only worksafe bits are the one with Rin's classmates and Bazett's?

BlitzBlast
Jul 30, 2011

some people just wanna watch the world burn

Bholder posted:

He just killed a bunch of people and he doesn't even care. What even is his backstory?

He was trained in the Snake his entire life so he could be used to kill a guy. He got his position as a teacher just to have the perfect cover. But when he went over to the target to scope things out he ended up just killing the guy then and there and was at a total loss at what to do next. He was supposed to kill himself too, but didn't really feel like it and decided to just ditch. He was dedicated enough to actually become a good teacher, but pretty much spent his life without a purpose.

...Until he ran into Caster, whose dreams of her life before she got screwed over by the gods were so vivid that he decided to make his purpose helping her fulfill her wish to go home.

And then Gilgamesh killed him.

BlitzBlast
Jul 30, 2011

some people just wanna watch the world burn
It's simpler than that, actually. Avalon gave him his sword origin/affinity, but his real talent comes from an extension of the one spell he used most of his life: reinforcement. Shirou's really good at analyzing an object's inner workings (it's how he fixes things), to the point he can understand any given item's essence. This lets him use projection, which normally just copies an object's appearance and most basic qualities, to create perfect replicas.

All Avalon did was make him better at tracing swords. UBW too is just a database of all the information he's ever gotten. As for what happened in HF, that was a side effect of grafting on Archer's arm. It's constantly sending magic into his body, and since Shirou/Archer's magic affinity is sword...

BlitzBlast
Jul 30, 2011

some people just wanna watch the world burn
A Reality Marble is defined as inverting existence to physically manifest your soul. Not much is known about them because actually doing that is really god drat hard (everyone has a different soul after all, so it's probably a huge case-by-case thing), but it's a thing that people know about and have an understanding of how it "works" and whatnot.

rin's reality marble turns the entire world into money

BlitzBlast
Jul 30, 2011

some people just wanna watch the world burn
They have parents who will buy them anything.

Kids: the gift that keeps on taking.

BlitzBlast
Jul 30, 2011

some people just wanna watch the world burn
The real reason this thread can not have joke posts is that the Fate fanbase is full of people who take every opportunity they can to :spergin: out, often ending up as complete non-sequiturs that just make everyone involved feel awkward.

The joke reason is that it's dumb.

Cake Attack posted:

shirou gets to go on a date with rin and doesn't even appreciate it...

hosed up

He just knows he can do better. :smug:

BlitzBlast
Jul 30, 2011

some people just wanna watch the world burn

MonsieurChoc posted:

Despite that episode having terrible animation.

I still burst out laughing whenever I remember Archer randomly jumping into the air to POSE.

It wasn't even a good pose.

Scrree posted:

Shirou surpassing Kiritsugu's mistakes in every way.

I'd argue he doubled down even harder.

BlitzBlast
Jul 30, 2011

some people just wanna watch the world burn
Fake Assassin isn't a real Assassin, but for all intents and purpose he's a servant. He's even taking up the real Assassin's spot, which is why True Assassin explodes out of him.

Incidentally, poor True Assassin. The most forgotten servant. :smith:

BlitzBlast
Jul 30, 2011

some people just wanna watch the world burn
"Shouldn't you just kill him?"

"Nah, this is totally going to work out."

"Well okay, you're the boss."

BlitzBlast
Jul 30, 2011

some people just wanna watch the world burn
Just fill it with GIFs.

BlitzBlast
Jul 30, 2011

some people just wanna watch the world burn
Both of those games explicitly had her being dragged in from another dimension anyways.

BlitzBlast
Jul 30, 2011

some people just wanna watch the world burn
Here's your answer.

BlitzBlast
Jul 30, 2011

some people just wanna watch the world burn
There's a two page spread in the latest Dengeki Hobby that is literally just Saber and Totally Not Saber figures.

Whoever makes these things better be called Unlimited Saber Works.

BlitzBlast
Jul 30, 2011

some people just wanna watch the world burn
Basically the entire situation with Sakura could have been resolved safely if Kariya and Tokiomi could talk like civilized adults for like, five minutes.

BlitzBlast
Jul 30, 2011

some people just wanna watch the world burn
"Who would win in a fight" battles exist in a magical land where things like personalities, motivations, or common sense don't matter.

AKA fighting games.

BlitzBlast fucked around with this message at 00:10 on Apr 22, 2015

BlitzBlast
Jul 30, 2011

some people just wanna watch the world burn

Raenir Salazar posted:

That wasn't my question.

You were asking about the accepted conclusion of Shirou vs Shiki and wondering whether Shirou would actually just let a guy suicide.

The answer is that it's a "who would win in a fight" battle, so it doesn't matter.

BlitzBlast
Jul 30, 2011

some people just wanna watch the world burn
Obviously they'll do the Good Ending, zoom back to the beginning, animate all the slight differences needed to reach the True Ending, and then do that.

BlitzBlast
Jul 30, 2011

some people just wanna watch the world burn
Yeah, but I think you can only get that choice on a second playthrough? The actual HF Normal route skips the fight.

BlitzBlast
Jul 30, 2011

some people just wanna watch the world burn
To be honest, most of my like of F/SN comes from the presentation, particularly the whole "story told over three separate arcs" thing. The story itself is kind of eh (especially when you look at each route individually), the setting seems to be the perfect breeding ground for :spergin:, and if I had a nickel for every time I've read "this character may seem overpowered, but he's not actually because of this list of weaknesses that will never be relevant and are only around so the character doesn't look OP" in a fanwork then I'd be a millionaire.

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BlitzBlast
Jul 30, 2011

some people just wanna watch the world burn
Kohaku True was basically Kohaku Good anyways. But I don't begrudge it because it's basically a bunch of monsters deciding "you know what, let's try and be regular people" at the very last minute and then doing that.

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