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PleasingFungus posted:bargain if you're planning to go sbl, not that amazing otherwise. idk how well sbl and conj combine but you can probably make it work if you really want. I can blind guys and turn invisible so I get some stabbing opportunities. Plus as a draconian with no armor I can sneak up on dudes anyway without even training stealth. I haven't trained short blades all that much yet so I could still switch to crosstrained long blades. Would that be a better choice? I'm also using a shield. Edit: Pre-lair I'm already having attacks do 0 damage with a +4 dagger so maybe short blades aren't that good? a shiny rock fucked around with this message at 18:01 on Nov 24, 2014 |
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Draconians are just really good, for new players too i suppose. You can basically do anything you want with a draconian and if anything you can usually abuse the poo poo out of your XL-7 breath attack. You don't have to worry about armor at all. They can only wear capes/hats/shoes/gloves and get natural AC to compensate. They are my favorite species, really...
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Parallax Scroll posted:Edit: Pre-lair I'm already having attacks do 0 damage with a +4 dagger so maybe short blades aren't that good? they are good to stab with they are generally not good to stand in pitched combat and slash at people with except in niche circumstances p much as expected really
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Nov 24, 2014 22:16
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I'll probably just look for a good long blade then. I wanted this guy to be a hybrid fighter guy and not a stabby guy anyway.
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Nov 24, 2014 22:47
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i don't know
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Nov 24, 2014 23:02
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yo im getting sick of trapsing through pandemonium finding gently caress all. this is my first time in postgame and it's packed full of lovely tier 4 demons and nothingness 
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Nov 25, 2014 05:59
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Stoat posted:yo im getting sick of trapsing through pandemonium finding gently caress all. this is my first time in postgame and it's packed full of lovely tier 4 demons and nothingness
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Nov 25, 2014 06:55
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I died because a pan lord turned me into an ice beast
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Nov 25, 2014 07:05
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Haifisch posted:Sounds like you're getting the correct postgame experience. If you stick with it, eventually you'll get to do tomb(which is 3 levels of mummies, mummies, and a few new enemies added because people complained about the mummies) and hells(which is like pan, except with less wandering forever and more unavoidable bad effects at random intervals). tomb is like less than 50% mummies these days, I think. hell is insanely good, and always has been. you go through creepy dangerous places and dive like crazy while under the constant threat of bad poo poo falling on your head. it's a very different experience from the rest of crawl, in a good way. but yeah pan is really bad. it's kind of unfortunate, there are a few neat enemies there these days, it's just that an "infinite dungeon" is just such a fundamentally terrible design.
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Nov 25, 2014 07:06
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there should be like intermission levels through pan on the way to other stuff
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Nov 25, 2014 07:13
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Pan-difficulty versions of the lair branches would make it less samey Until you got Pan Shoals and didn't have flight > 
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Nov 25, 2014 07:15
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PleasingFungus posted:it's just that an "infinite dungeon" is just such a fundamentally terrible design. I think abyss by itself or pan by itself might be okay, but two infinite branches is Bad and Not Good and all that.
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Haifisch posted:and yet crawl has two of those. makes you think. the abyss is good, because it's its own thing. really distinct levels, enemies, etc. pan is just The Dungeon, But Infinite And Only Demons. which is really bad! Stoat posted:Pan-difficulty versions of the lair branches would make it less samey lol if you're in extended without flight several coc/geh endings won't let you reach the rune at all without flight (or teleport spamming). pretty funny if you get all the way to the bottom and have to go back because you don't got either
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Nov 25, 2014 07:18
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Pan is definitely my least favorite branch but Tomb is up there.
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Nov 25, 2014 07:19
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Abyss is the chillest branch because there's always a new surprise~
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Nov 25, 2014 07:22
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I don't think Abyss is that great because it's fundamentally tied to the fucktarded banishment mechanic.
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Nov 25, 2014 07:25
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Thug Lessons posted:I don't think Abyss is that great because it's fundamentally tied to the fucktarded banishment mechanic. Erolcha Did Nothing Wrong
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Nov 25, 2014 07:45
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i thought pan was fun, but abyss is real bad
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Nov 25, 2014 07:49
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Banishment is a learning moment
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Nov 25, 2014 08:01
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The trick to the Abyss is having high stealth and just ducking corners all the loving tyme until lucy has mercy on your soul and spawns an exit. Getting marked over there is the single worst thing that can happen probably but i do like the flavor of the byss then you could also play as a lugonu knight and just banish the poo poo out of everything that looks funny and escape the abyss with a 2button press 
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Guess im gonna do just that and run some Lucy Spawn or Dracos cus my attempts at getting hydra form castable on a char is going absolutely nowhere :/
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